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Buddy, the idea that peace is attained and maintained through abstention from kinetic acts is the most childish view of the world one could possibly have. Peace has never, and will never come from peaceful actions. It always and forever will be the product of extreme violence. And even then, it relies on the good guys (a rare phenomenon in human history) to want peace as the product of their ruthless and thorough dissemination of death. If Trump follows these bombings with the Marines storming the beaches of Iran, I will agree with your shallow suggestion. Until then, just give it a rest with this utopian bullshit, please. Whining like a baby about Trump putting targets on your buddies' backs is especially hilarious when the people he just fucked up had actual targets on the backs of your friends. Or have we become so weak and pathetic that we forget who our actual enemies are, the ones who have been killing us for years?

Oh, I'm sorry. So this never happened?

Today SECDEF and CJCS gave an update brief on the attack on an Iran's nuclear facilities. A comment by the chairman was epic and deserves it's own thread. "I can assure you there is no beach volleyball at the Air Force Weapons School." – General Dan “Razin” Caine, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, June 26, 2025

They ripped the lid off, now they have to fully finish it. They need an end state like Japan in WW2 - complete demilitarization, confiscation of all war material, etc. Iran cannot have any capability to project power outside its borders. Hopefully this is also a catalyst for the Iranian people to rid themselves of the horrendous regime they’ve been under for the last ~45 years.

We should. We’ve been invaded.

“We basically have two countries that have been fighting so long and so hard, that they don’t know what the fuck they are doing.” Trump Might be his best moment. 3:13 PS. The Drudge headline says he went "Berserk" which is a stupid description.

Obviously Contact Time……

Gotta make sure that H model Herk gets out!

One of the most ignorant things I’ve read on this forum. Do you think your buddies didn’t already have targets on their backs? They are surrounded by people who hate them and want them dead; people daily searching for opportunities to hurt them. An intelligent use of limited violence makes enemies less confident, less capable, and therefore less likely to attack your buddies. If we start nation building in Iran, I’ll be speaking up against POTUS. However as of this moment, I think what he ordered will make the region safer. Also, well played on the OPSEC!

I agree with you, but focus on our military failures because I have informed ideas about causes & solutions. Don't have the same background knowledge to speak confidently regarding political level. Agree 100%. If I were Iran, this is obviously the time to play every card. Not sure if they have a nuke, but the claim about enriched uranium means dirty bomb is on the table. If they don't use it, they never had it. my final thought seeing Iran fold so quickly is that I am angry we didn't do it ourselves & sooner. They were murdering US soldiers with EFP's in 2007 and we were too afraid of expanding the war to give them what they deserved. Fuck Iran I hope their mullahs are dragged through the streets whether they have WMD or not. But we must not nation build in the aftermath.

Persian women, black seas resorts, ski slopes, persian women. One can dream of a westernized Iran......

Gonna hang it up next year and make it an even 30. 23 years AD and 7 in the Reserves. I've always said that when the bullshit outweighs the benefits, I'd vote with my feet. Apparently I have a higher tolerance for the bullshit than I ever imagined. Like some have said, it all comes down to what right looks like for you. It wasn't right for me to take a pay-cut and alot of time away from home for a couple of years to get the ultimate benefits that the airlines offer. I loved what I did-- flying the A-10 and being in a position to teach young pilots has always appealed to me. I executed my career MY way, to the detriment of promotions on AD-- did a great staff gig in Europe but refused to go to ACC or the Pentagon. Got passed over for O-6 on AD but picked up immediately once I joined the Reserves-- best thing that ever happened to me. I would have been tossed around like a barracks bunny on a Saturday night as a full-bird on AD. Had to wait to pin-on with the Reserves, but got a great opportunity out of it that worked out well for my family. Through it all, I was able to do what I loved and provided great opportunities for my family. And now my beautiful bride has decided that she doesn't want to leave our current location and so that means it's time to hang it up. Assuming I don't get myself fired in the next 8 months, I'll have had a chance in this seat for far longer than is normal for a command tour. I enjoy being in the trenches and leading from the front, and I found a way to do that. It cost me some opportunities, but kept me true to what I valued most career-wise. I deployed six times, flew on some pretty high-end real-world missions, earned a WIC patch, got to command a couple of outstanding organizations, fly the A-10 longer than the eleven-year old version of me who started this dream could have ever imagined, but most importantly, got to coach my kids' sports teams for 12 years and help my wife start a number of successful businesses. But I never felt like I had to sacrifice who I was and what I truly believed in to further my career. Maybe that's why I tolerated more BS than I thought I could. Hell, it's only a lot of work if you do it. Turns out you can still be a fighter pilot in today's Air Force. Then again, I've joked that I'm not really in the military-- I'm in the AF. And I'm not really in the AF, I'm a Hog Driver. Don't use these stories as a recipe or a map-- what worked for me and others won't necessarily work for you. There's nothing wrong with getting out-- if you're doing it for the right reasons. And there's nothing wrong with staying in-- if you're doing it for the right reasons. Just make sure the right reasons are still with you when you hang up that smart-looking uniform for the last time. Now the hard part: I have to figure out what I want to be when I grow up.

Obama - $1.7 billion, including, literally, $400 million in palletized currencies in exchange for U.S. citizens held captive and nuclear behavioral change. Biden - released $6 billion in frozen Iranian assets for more U.S. citizens held captive and nuclear behavioral change. Trump: A different kind of currency delivered for nuclear behavioral change. Which one is more effective and beneficial for U.S. interests?

Is anybody else secretly hoping the Iranians manage to get just 1x jet in the Air and have it square off with a 35. And then the 35 gets 1x more Air to Air kill than the Raptor…. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Bro, that's obviously fake....this one should be sobering for Western nations. If Iran can get to our F-35s, all bets are off.

Is that frowned upon now?

Cutting the F-35 buys in this bill bothers me a lot more than anything about the E-7. Maybe it's because across the 4 red flags I've done, the E-3s GAB'd every vul except 3 so I struggle to understand what airborne C2 could even provide me. But slowing production of our most advanced fighter on the promise of some silver bullet dominance platform that is just boeing renderings at this point feels like we're falling into the same trap that netted us 20% as many B-2s and F-22s as we should have right now. We've got 400 F-35s out of a planned order of 1,763. Less than a quarter of the way there and we're cutting F-35 production already for future promises from a company that can't produce a single engine trainer plane on time or a narrow body airliner without band-aid fixes. Long story short: if something doesn't change we are fucked. If we can't tighten the turn circle on making new stuff we at least need to have the patience to produce the stuff we've already developed in significant numbers.

Amen and how about the maintainers getting over half the fleet airborne at the same time!

Great talk by Razin giving an awesome overview of the people and process at the unclass level. It’s awesome he gave a shout out to DTRA. It’s easy to get focused on only the dudes dropping bombs or shooting missiles, but there are a ton of nerds (I mean that in a friendly manner!) out there who love America as much as the warrior does, and they are critical to our success.

Israel might. But not in a good way...

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Truly freaking EPIC!!! Just as she says with Allah no bomb can reach us.

And, since we must make fun of everything...

The post calling this forum/its members racist for disagreement of opinion has been removed. If people are wondering where the line is, here’s an example.

That’s fucking hilarious when the current immigration problem was largely caused by a far left political movement that believed that importing as many dark sinned people as possible was the ticket to winning elections. Because apparently skin color has everything to do with how you vote. Now tell me who’s racist? By the way, pulling the “you’re racist” card is the most clear way to know the person you’re arguing with is not someone worth spending time on.

It was planned in and programmed before he was elected president. The Army was always going to celebrate its 250th birthday. Clutch pearls harder and get outraged the next flyover you see while you’re at it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

If I had to guess…. Like all the other aircraft we have that can deploy a weapon within feet of a point on the earth, but can’t be trusted to fly a GPS approach. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Who picked the Op name?!?

This had been a lot like the oil filter commercial, "Pay me now or you can pay me later." Since 1979 with the takeover of the U.S. Embassy and holding diplomats hostage for 444 days, the bombing of the Marine barracks in Lebanon killing 200+ U.S. marines plus some French troops, the exporting of IED expertise and materials into Iraq killing and maiming our troops, and funding Hezbollah and Hamas for decades maiming, killing, and kidnapping civilians, Iran has been hostile towards the U.S. Iran has been in the FA mode for a long time and finally we have an administration that introduced them to the FO side of the equation. This has been a long time in the making and the demonstrable Iranian track record is more than enough evidence that allowing them to have the most destructive bomb on the planet would be tragic for humanity.

Powerful and convincing arguments against Trump. One might even say opinions will “tip over” against POTUS, and his administration will capsize after this brutal attack.

Real or not, Israel has done more to accomplish defanging the regime and its proxies in the region over the last 12 months than we managed to accomplish in 20 years. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

The CAF B-29 will be there again. We're going to be on the Plaza Mon-Wed like last year, and flying in the evening show on Wednesday with Doc again. Even though I'm the Squadron scheduler, right now I'm not on the board to fly the show. Trying to spread the love since I was in last year.

This is getting serious. Iran has an air defense capability that reverses your vertical stabilizer, powers your afterburner post crash AND sits you down gently in the grass!

Only a fighter pilot could make going to jail for banging a student worse by adding a second dick to the party. Even Biff knows better than that!

Two thoughts, equally important: What the Air Force is doing to you and, by extension, to the country, is a travesty, and the generals responsible should be fired publicly and shamed as examples of pathetic and impotent hubris for the remaining days of our nation's existence. Also Suck it up. You don't get to pick the path, only the destination, and sometimes not even that. If this mockery is how you become an Air Force pilot, so be it.

disaster seems like a strong word. at the end of the day it's just UPT. things could always be worse. first step is to immediately stop the bolded part from happening. stop the heavy drinking. start working out more. hang with the bros vs isolating. don't let professional frustrations derail your personal life. second step is to not quit. if air force flying is what you want, go get it. you'll be thankful you did later in life.

Don’t quit, shit sucks sometimes but usually gets better. This is 24 years of AF service from a 50 year old realistic optimist. I had some tough times at UPT too, but quitting is likely to lead to later in life regrets you can’t quantum leap back and fix. It also closes the door on what could be an awesome career. My assignment out of UPT was Grand Forks, not my first choice mind you but I just got off the phone with a bud I’ve been friends with now for 24 years, we flew tankers together and I still have friends from all my AD assignments I keep in touch with. The professional & personal satisfaction you’ll share with the guys you fly with and the camaraderie is something you can’t find anywhere else, I’m on year 3 at a legacy, I like my job but it’s not the same, not even close. My first assignment was my best even though it was damn near bottom of the list. I got to fly multiple aircraft, deploy and be part of historical events in some way and be part of an overall great organization. I was down at some points too but I tell you, your career in the flying business is like the stock market, if you consistently invest in it over time the trend is upwards. Finishing UPT is the best investment you can make in your aviation career in my opinion.

Recent visit feedback: Leard can’t read a room, was tone def, and avoided answering most questions. My professional concerns: 1. We don’t have enough applicants for UPT. Forcing more USAFA/ROTC grads to UPT will just result in more DORs. Problem not solved. 2. USAF doesn’t recognize FAA ratings and doesn’t seem to plan to do so. So to drop critical things like instrument training/checks is a massive failure on leadership. It is a wild abdication of our training and qualification that is unacceptable. 3. MAJCOMs don’t have the ability to absorb more inexperienced pilots. FTUs are backed up. Training is being pushed to ops units with wild experience-inexperience ratios. 4. IPT is not faster, cheaper, or better. Nor will it produce the 1500 pilots/year that they think. But as already stated on here, they don’t want to hear that. There is no backup plan for when this doesn’t work. 5. I expect higher attrition rates. Is AETC going to lower CTS when IPT isn’t producing the magical number of pilots? When everything else changes, that is all that is left. Unacceptable. Finally, and we are already seeing this, Q3s and accident rates are already climbing (this is before IPT even started). We are not flying enough nor experiencing pilots at a sustainable rate. SIMs are not a 1:1 equivalent. People need to fly. Throwing more inexperienced pilots at the problem isn’t going to help. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

Like gun control, the restrictions you mention will only restrict lawful operators.

I'm not thrilled with the idea of using the military to get this under control but the city, county, and state leadership are unable or unwilling to use law enforcement to prevent destruction of property and attacks on Federal personnel executing their lawful duties. Democrats have pandered to these people for so long, they think free speech is throwing rocks and Molotov cocktails. FAFO.

Cool. Now do Covid circa 2021 Or speaking at school board meetings, same time frame. And numerous other free speech actions, not twitter spats, but government actions taken to thwart free speech. I'll take Trump blustering and https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ice-arrests-top-100000-under-trump-as-officials-expand-detention-efforts/ar-AA1GayKQ?ocid=BingNewsSerp for $200, please... Not high enough numbers, but a start combined with record low border crossings. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/05/25/trump-southern-border-crackdown-impact/83733347007/ And I'll put another $200 on that high horse you ride to win/place/show.

Come on, it’s not like we let our adversary buy large plots of land adjacent to our military facilities… wait… it appears new information has just been handed to me. Fuck.

Nonsense...I'll take Oct 2001-August 2002. "Reaper 69 - Killbox 175B is yours, Cleared Hot!"