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I did something like that recently. A Captain in a flightsuit (RQ-4 guy, didn't know him) was leaving the building and halfway to the parking lot. No hat. You could tell from his expression/demeanor that he felt "caught", and had probably waited until the coast was clear. He sheepishly looks at me and salutes,... I return the salute, smile and say, "good afternoon!" while looking right at him, and continue inside. There was no doubt that he simply couldn't find his hat. There was no doubt that I recognized it. There was no doubt he was going to fix it ASAP. There was no doubt he appreciated that I didn't berate him on the obvious. There are communication skills and techniques other than verbal. It appears that many in the USAF are weak in that area. Now,... rather than discuss hats and sunglasses-on-the-forehead of officers, let's morph this discussion into why so many USAF Enlisted can't render a proper salute in a timely manner and with some military bearing, like the other military services can.

That's the problem, most of the "Jr. Ranking" people who correct senior Officers and NCO's aren't professional when they do it. Perfect example, a Major (Pilot) lost her hat at the chow hall somehow. Well she isn't going to sit in the chow hall for the rest of the deployment so she walks out going back to her dorm. Some MSgt stares at her and points, "Major, your hat! Put it in your head now!" No salute, no "Excuse me Ma'am/Major", nothing. She then has to explain to the MSgt why she doesn't have a hat because she lost it. Now I don't know what military you're in but Rock, Paper, Oakleaf, a FGO doesn't need to explain shit to any Enlisted person. That's one of the reasons why they make more money. That pretty much sums up the attitude of the Shoe's in the AOR. It seems that 36-2903 is the only AFI that Shoe's know. Don't ask them about any other AFI pertaining to their AFSC/Duties. You'll see the Windows hour glass appear above their head and have them give you the deer in the headlight look. Here's a tidbit that you might not know. Any Officer has the authority to apprehend you (Article 9 UCMJ) as an Enlisted person, and disrespect to a superior commissioned Officer (Article 89) is punitive article in the UCMJ. So keep that in mind when you're "correcting" someone who ultimately outranks you.

Well said. This Bus Driver forum looks like a good one to start trolling...whose with me?

I agree completely, I have managed to get the CP folks from my base to do an 'immersion' with my dispatchers, and in turn we have done the same with them, home station area, deployed area....I couldn’t sell it well enough to them. As the eyes and ears of the Wing/CC I know and appreciate the fact they are busy....a lot more than what you may think, again that's why I would rather work with the SOF or the Ops office for the flyers. It builds a rapport with the end customer, CP doesn't have that much of a vested interest.

Jango, why are you here? You will not convince anyone here of your viewpoint. It is unlikely anyone here will convince you of theirs. We don't go to the bus driver forum and troll, so please let it go.

Veiled threat? Sorry, perhaps I didn't say what I meant to say. If I see something that isn't right and it so happens to be someone above my pay grade, I will render proper customs and curtesies and explain what I have observed and why its wrong. If he or she acts on it, fine....I have done my part to correct the situation. Getting rude with a person who outranks me even in a public forum is not going to have a positive outcome. Shame on anyone who lets a jr. ranking person rudely and unprofessionally attempt to correct them in public or private. Guilt trip people into following uniform standards? You make it sound like I am trying to get someone to go to church, not the case. "Uniform standards" can be found in AFI 36-2903, I shouldn't have to guilt trip someone into following established rules.

Apples and oranges bro, I know you aren't that stupid to think that's in the same league as dress and appearance. I think this one goes both ways, I have seen Es and Os regardless of AFSC avoiding each other in let's say the BX parking lot so that they don't have to salute. These are more than likely the same people that go running indoors when they hear retreat start to play.

You know, that happens....what the Major did, regardless if he is a Comm officer or whatever, he was well in his right as a Major to do what he did. If he hurt your feelings, then it is what it is, you work in a military institution. He could have a little more nice about it I agree with you there, and understood your situation, hell one of your buddies could have hid or frozen your hat. I am rather shocked an officer treated another officer that way.