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Thread bump. Got an e-mail via the squadron "All Personnel" distro today saying that the upcoming TIB Barksdale tour stop -- and the rest of their 2011 tour -- has been cancelled due to "budget issues." I seem to recall that when the budget deal between the GOP and the White House/Senate, one of the sweeteners was that certain additional cuts would come from the DoD rather than domestic discretionary. I wonder if this is one of those cuts. If so, that is how you cut the defense budget ladies and gentlemen.

Yep, and the gear was down.

If he had been aboard, they would've got DFC's.

I'm surprised 18AF hasn't Q3'd them

John Boyd is a personal hero of mine who receives little to no credit within the halls of the big Air Force because he did not play the game, however, if you fly a fighter aircraft in today's Air Force you have no one more important to thank than Col John Boyd. Even more, if EM means anything to you, rate/radius, etc. I was disturbed as I recently spent a few hours at the National Air Force Museum, and not a single word on any museum piece made mention of Boyd. We have an OODA Loop on Maxwell, EM diagrams in every 3-3, Fighter Weapons School, Maneuver Warfare, Desert Storm, etc, but no mention of John Boyd in any official Air Force document I have ever read. Seems wrong. Ironic too, considering one of the things he apparently used to say was "either be someone, or do something... you can't have both" (or words to that effect). Cain

Yeah, just wait to upgrade to C-17 IP before getting RPA's.

or "That !$@# Hannibal, got us taking a $*!#% circus over these #$#%! mountains. " Edit: and there's this gem... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aynjd00np2I

If the military in general has one overriding tradition, probably back to Roman times, it's bitching. It's our heritage. Overheard in 1776: "@*#$%& Washington, getting us up on @*#$%& Christmas night and here we are floating across some &@%#& icy river. Could be *@%@&$ sleeping rather than in this &@%&# leaky boat. Wish he'd just *$%@&! fall in..."

what's the harm in it? it's good fun imo and the fighter culture is A+ in my book. beats having no culture.

easy big boy i didn't see you posted that 3 years ago i just saw the thread pop up after it had been revived. jesus. didn't know herbivores got so sensitive about the STS lighten up

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Ramp_disaster