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Hopefully the first 10K are the shoes that contribute nothing but uniform corrections to the war effort. Hopefully the next 10K are people like Rusty Pipes who put the same amount of thought into foreign policy as they do reading a children's book.

Still Valid. Billeting/Services still play their games and AETC can't get their orders cut right. Orders should only say Gov't Qtrs Directed. If not available, then they need to document and give you a non-A which is a one-time requirement.

So is the rusty trombone, but that doesn't mean you should use it in polite company.

"Your Airmen see everything you do. As soon as a 2Lt does not salute a 1Lt, their brain will think why should a Airman salute a 2Lt, after all the only difference between the two is that the Airman has been promoted once...right? I mean, where do the cool, "we are all cool together" unwritten rules start to trump the written guidance? If it's not in a yellow checklist it does not matter I suppose". - I forgot... our squadrons are overrun by airmen. In fact, I think we may have one in our squadron... yep one out of 100 people is an airmen. I love that argument. Since sometimes I didnt salute a 1Lt as a 2Lt, that probably means I'm skipping checklist steps also. This whole thing is summed up by two words... SITUATIONAL AWARNESS. Something we, as aircrew, should have. Have I busted AFIs before... yes, because it was the right decision based on a couple thousand hours of airmanship to safely recover a jet. When I was a 2Lt did I salute all 1Lts? Yes, at first, then I gained SA as to when it was/was not appropriate. For Gods sake, you're a college graduate, use some of the $100,000 of SA (plus whatever AF training you have) and do what is appropriate for the situation. Maybe then we can fix real problems instead of changing uniforms and upping our reflectivity. I mean, do you honestly think the enlisted crew in WWII saluted their pilots as they were taking off for a one-way bomber mission over Germany? I don't know how the AF survived with all these bad examples going back in time!

Well, I am new to this, but I thought I would give my .02 I can't remember what documentary I was watching, but the documentary was interviewing (at the time) the Sergeant Major of the Marine Corps. He said that even though he is the highest ranking enlisted man in the Marines and one of the oldest, he still salutes the brand-spanking new 2nd LT. The reason he salutes is not because he is obligated to salute as per military customs and courtesy. The reason he salutes that young LT is because it is a reminder to that LT that he/she is a leader and they have to make tough decisions if they are the ranking member. That said, IMO I believe that 2LTs should salute 1LTs based on the above example. They may have been promoted based solely on "Time in Grade", but in the end they are higher rank and should rate a salute, regardless if the person who renders the salute is a 2LT. Bottom line: More rank = More responsibility. Show some respect. Render a damn salute and carry on about your business... Vicious