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I've seen the chicks with attitudes like Masshole in both ROTC and UPT and in the CAF. Usually they have more ego than skill and when shit doesn't pan out they A. Complain about unfair treatment, sexual harassmant, etc. B. ###### someone in a position of leadership. C. Marry some hard-up former USAFA guy who is tracking to fighters and tug on the leaderships heartstrings not to break up their happy family so she can fly a fighter too. D. Get to their Sq, suck at flying, ###### other dudes, get divorced. Play chick card to get upgrades while discrediting the shithot female pilots. Just from people watching. Good luck Masshole. I already feel sorry for the USAF as a whole and anyone who has to deal with you at UPT. If you feel you can talk like this with ZERO cred, imagine you attitude when you think even more of yourself.

Yes. Things that make it harder to accomplish the mission should be eliminated or reduced. Actions/programs/people who enable the mission to be done more easily should be taken/implemented/praised & promoted. I am in no position to get out right now, so ask some of the people who are on the fence. Catbox had a thread specific to his decision. There are many others right here and now, ask them, I don't think I'm saying anything that hasn't been said before. I'm actually late-coming to this whole being bitter over queep deal...I've been really happy in my assignment so far and have a reserve well of good will towards the AF built up from the last few good years. The point is not that I cannot do what needs to be done, it's that some of those things are unnecessary in the first place and therefore I resent having to do them. I still wear my blues and do my SOS practice bleeding and am almost done with my masters and etc. etc. but it's the fact that none of those things (and many more) are actually required to accomplish my unit's mission. In fact they detract from either A) the mission or B) dwell time at home that should be spent either training or with families. So when the boss says his #1 and #2 priorities are the mission and the people, yet his #3-#69 priorities are things that negatively impact the first two, I cannot take seriously the organizational commitment to the top priorities. I'd have to imagine myself as a pretty damn senior commander to be able to fix this stuff because it's not squadron-generated, at least where I'm at. You can't really believe this do you? Because the people in the squadrons and on the line are making it work that means the leadership is sufficiently "focused" on the mission? So the only way we can possibly communicate that there is a lack of mission focus is to fail? I didn't say there was a lack of mission accomplishment, I said there was a lack of focus which is different and has to do with the f-ed up priorities scheme I mentioned above. Nope, it's really not. That wears on you after a while and I've seen dudes pretty burned out and bitter, but what drives the nail in the coffin is when you come home and on your dwell time you're spinning up for inspections, practice inspections for future inspections, mobility processes that conform to Big Blue but not to logic or common sense, senseless paperwork to accomplish what used to be routine scheduling changes, briefing the OG in person every time anyone sets foot off home station for an OST/TDY/exercise, etc. That's what makes guys really lose it from what I've seen.

you have got to be shitting me pyle.

No, Rainman, it isn't the deployments and ops tempo. While I don't like to be away from my family, I enjoy deploying because it eliminates much of the queep from homestation (granted, it substitutes other queep...but that queep is generally the easily ignored type) and allows me to focus on mission accomplishment...flying, mission planning, or pre-flighting for other people to go flying. No, what really wears on me is practice OREs, going TDY right after a six-month deployment, doing SOS online so I can do it in person, spending more time away from home doing something that doesn't matter. Squadron Christmas parties can be fun, until the SQ/CC or OG/CC's wife gets a hold of the planning and you're all showing up in mess dress, so you have the added bonus of buying new medals from the last time you had to wear it. Not to mention the several hundred dollars for a formal dress so the wife can come. Woo, fun! No, Rainman, it really is the queep. And it isn't even the individual pieces of queep, although they are incredibly annoying. It is the persistent and total lack of mission focus by the people who implement these pieces of queep. Only tan shirts? Really, missions were not being accomplished due to black shirts? Planes were falling out of the sky due to morale patches? So for me, at least...it is the queep, not the deployments.

...It isn't DOING the Masters, but rather the fact that the Air Force uses it as the ONLY thing that matters these days. For promotion to Lt Col, sure, I get it, but we shouldn't be forcing Lts and Capts to finish a Masters to make Major. Let them focus on the tactical level of employment...save the Masters for the operational and strategic levels where they could actually use them if everyone at the tactical level wasn't getting some BS basket weaving Masters just to fill a square. I like the Jumper mentality...we'll send you to get a Masters if we think you need one. Lts and Capts don't need them. We waste a lot of money getting our Lts and Capts BS Masters degrees they'll never use just to make them look good and so we as a service can brag about 96.69% of the officer corps having advanced degrees. Education is important, and I believe there is a time and place during career development for it. A new LT at a squadron trying to learn his/her primary job is NOT the time. We've been doing it that way for about 8 years now. We look f*cking awesome when it comes to AAD stats, but we aren't as good at our jobs as we could be. We will soon see the negative consequences of the misguided focus in failed ORIs, lowered standards, and (God forbid) mishaps. I hope I'm wrong on this one. By the way, when did you finish your Masters? As a LT or senior Capt/Major (back when senior Capts had 11-12 years of service). No, they aren't fun anymore. Not sure how long you've been out but drinking is frowned upon these days (not that you have to drink to have fun). We even used to have play money casinos at our Christmas parties before leadership frowned on it saying it promoted gambling. If I were to make it my kind of "fun" it would certainly get me in trouble. I wouldn't quit for it though... I don't think we do these often enough for it to matter. Agree...show up and run. You were probably going to go to the gym anyway. Rainman, I agree with what you say most of the time. You bring a "big picture" perspective to a lot of the gripes on here and I like that. I only disagree with your assertion that the gripes of these younger officers are something they can ignore without consequences. Sure, bringing gripes like Christmas parties and warrior runs from the tactical level directly to the CSAF doesn't make sense, but the message isn't getting past our leadership and there isn't much anyone at our level can do about it. Ignoring it or just conforming isn't the answer. The focus and the culture has to change. I just hope that these same young officers complaining about these things aren't the same ones 10 years from now dishing it out. Edited for format

Thank you. I love Prince. Thank you for your attempted internet psychological assessment, but I was messing with Rainman and it got out of hand. Hardly indicative of who any of us are as a person. I have no ego nor any intention on committing any one of the four mistakes. Thank you for the well wishes, but do not sleep in fear for the USAF's future. It will be just fine with me.

One man's garbage is another man's treasure. We need more folks like you to jump on these grenades.

No... he's saying that in the civillian world, you aren't always forced to search for a new career half way through (with the exception of the few who are able to make it to a high enough rank to last that long). In a civilian career, you can, with the right attitude in most situations, work the whole time in one career field. It's not as common anymore, but definitely more common than in the military. I know you're just being a bit of a devil's advocate in a few of these threads, but come on man.... His point was a valid one which is not brought up frequently, and you are certainly intelligent enough to understand what he meant.

It's called a cockpit for a reason, not the box office. If God had intended for women to fly the sky would be pink, not blue.

Yup. Getting 0-6 OG/CC approval to add an extra copilot to a line or another 150 lbs of gas if one person drops off, then being lectured about what a poor planner you are when these things happen, those are reasons people leave the job.

Yes, that's exactly what's going on here. Since I'm assigned to a particular flight in a particular squadron in a particular group in a particular wing, I'm most concerned with the problems within arms reach. I'm not aiming to "strategically fix" anything with the Air Force at this point. It's not all about bitching, but it's a little about bitching. Actually I'd say it's complaining because bitching is complaining without a solution and the solution for my particular problem is to turn back the clock policy-wise and attitude-wise like 2-3 months and go from there. I'll send him that leadership should be focused on the mission and not stupid queepy shit like uniform wear and TPS reports. That stuff inevitably has to be done, but when it's priority #2 or #3 on the boss' agenda and he spends noticeable time kicking people in the nuts not for failing to accomplish the mission, but rather for failing to play by the exact letter of both the rule book and his personal, often unknown preferences as a CC, that's a foul IMHO. We should (speaking of AFSOC here) be flexible enough to provide specialized airpower anywhere in the world on a moment's notice without having to check our sock color or roll our sleeves down or file a goddam 2407 to change a take off time by ~30 minutes. Send that to the CSAF. Wasn't that the gist of what got pushed up to Gen. Welsh after his call for comments? It's not the endless deployments, it's not the state-side TDYs, it's not missing holidays that's making people pissed off, not me at least. Those things are mitigated by killing the enemy and doing some other good work for the nation. What's making guys pissed off is the stupid shit that's most prevalent back home or in other REMF-infested locations. That's what I'm complaining about WRT new wing policies and what others are talking about in the numerous threads on this topic I would venture. You have a step van? Man, I should bitch about having to walk... So what's the bigger picture here rainman? My BL problem is loss of mission focus. Other commands seem to be leading indicators, but my limited experiences with certain deployed locations as well as the fresh asspains new leadership have brought upon us have further solidified to me that this is the big problem. How far up AGL to I have to be to realize that a loss of mission focus really isn't the problem?

And Astronauts

...to say nothing of "rocking" your cross-country.

Complain to your Flt/CC that you're getting treated unfairly because you're a chick. This will force your Flt/CC to rank you #1 because he's scared you'll go up the chain with your complaint. Then you'll get your sweet revenge on track select when a -38 pops up on the screen while the rest of your bros go to Tones. Not that this has happened before. Wait, what? Or just fuck one of the dudes in your class and write a poem about how he now has Herpes.

How do you t bag life support gear? Did the 130 guys actually pull their scrotums out and smear their ball sacs on the 17 guys nvgs and helmets? Another question for tac airlifter...did you know of a 130 chick that was pissed off at the 17 dudes? Did she rub her labia all over their gear? Gross man.

To OP: yeah, there are assholes out there like this guy too

Ha. Fair enough, but by the time I have a decade of experience, you will be back in diapers.

Yes, I am quite familiar how conversations work. You post, I post, you respond, I respond. I do not think you are being mean to me. I read this board before I started posting and am familiar with (and fond of) the way you post. If my last response was out of line, then I apologize, but I am keeping with the ribbing theme. If you cannot handle the heat, go back to the kitchen- right? I did not know what a Rugby Queen is, but thanks for the debrief. I do not enjoy the attention any more than anyone else that posts here. I am getting a lot of advice and killing down time by posting here. I think you have the wrong impression of me and that is fine. If thinking I am a stupid whore encourages you to keep making these posts, then by all means, assume I am a stupid whore. I was hoping you would shit a brick in response to my post so I could make a Metamucil joke.

Your opinion is noted but irrelevant. Brandishing with piss-poor insults to assert your "male dominance" does not work. I expected you to be able to take a joke and have more game, but your post was only intramural-type game and void of any actual verbal skill. I will happily fly and serve my country- I am grateful I am allowed to do that. Feel free to write to your Congressman if that bothers you. In the real world, that is how bitches get things done. To put this simply in words you find communicable: Bend over, bitch. We are going to run the minority train on your ass. Oh hell no. A gay cadet is the only thing worse than a female cadet. Masshole.