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So will there be an AF-wide read file for loggies?

Steve, This opinion coming from a non-fighter guy, but a guy who has worn the mask almost my entire career (3800 hours), because the gunpig is unpressurized. I think the answer as always is "it depends"... First, was he hypoxic because of lack of oxygen or because of other contaminants in his bloodstream. As I recall carbon monoxide bonds with hemoglobin 230 times stronger than oxygen so simply dropping the mask may not be a simple recovery solution. There are too many unknowns to kn ow the actual situation. Second, A lot depends on his altitude at the time of the incident. As you know the higher you are the less time you have to react, and in the high 30's you may have less than 5 seconds of useful consciousness. Hypoxia is nothing to fuck around with. I can tell you I had an IFE in OEF where multiple members of my crew began to experience hypoxia symptoms as we climbed unpressurized to our combat altitude. The aircraft had just returned from heavy fuel cell maintenance. We just crossed the fence and were climbing to altitude when folks started complaining about an extreme fuel smell. Our bold face tells us to have everyone get on the hose and go 100% oxygen...we were already on the hose and within a few minutes several of my guys started experiencing hypoxia symptoms. It took us a few minutes but we determined the oxygen hoses were mistakenly soaked in J-8...I was faced with a dilemma but I order the crew to drop masks (against the Dash 1), and started an emergency descent to 10K. I got lucky and judgement carried the day.

Forking Aye...mine went up $350...I also just hit a longevity milestone and we get another raise in Jan. All together = $800+....bourbon for everyone.

Tell me how this works. BAH for my area went down $87 for O-2. O-3... increase of $102. Edit for additional info: If you read the faq on the BAH site it says that there is BAH rate protection as long as you 1. don't PCS 2. don't get demoted and 3. don't change your dependency status.

I know, right!?!? Only a douchebag would do that.

Absolutely dispicable. How did none of those people say, "this is a fucking stupid idea" and stop this picture? I see 16 RIF volunteers.

I know this website is an escape valve for all kinds of pissing and moaning, but do you really want to start posting people’s pictures and cranking up bitchy personal attacks? The basic theme of the last few posts seems to be “E’s shouldn’t be correcting O’s,” so how about the (apparent) O’s show some GD personal leadership? If you have a problem with this dude, call him. Hiding behind the anonymity of some BS website is a bitch move. RANT OFF

Violating the T.O. intentionally is never a good thing. Having said that, the thing that bothers me is the lack of leadership in handling the situation after the fact. IMHO, an Air Force wide FCIF is rediculous! Whatever happened to handling things at the lowest level? A former SQ/CC that I would follow to Tehran with a cold gun and BDU-33's once said "An NCO bandaid to the chin stops the bleeding better than a FW/CC tourniquet to the windpipe!"....let the SQ/CC's actually LEAD their squadrons. To quote Gen Olds: "...but make sure they know the buck stops with you, that you'll shoulder the blame when things go wrong. Correct without revenge or anger" Let the SQ/CC hammer their nuts, dish out he punishement (whatever it may be) and press! Cap-10

If I owned a fleet of C-12's and I became aware that one of my pilots did a barrel roll in one of my C-12's, I would fire him. Just sayin'...

Did you read anything else I wrote in this entire thread? I think I came down pretty damn hard on the side of flight safety. Really CJ6A is the only guy that's defending any part of it. My only caveat to the whole argument over what do do after the fact was that it should be handled at the lowest level possible and I don't see taking someone's wings for a SLOJ when there was no actual mishap.