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WSO's.... exsist even in the bird world.

"Not only did Pepsi quench my thirst! Im also able to walk again!".

I put this on an Army site and thought it would fit here too. The Apache pilot is guilty or not guilty of performing a maneuver that certainly destroyed his aircraft. Before I get flamed for passing judgement on the crew, my post is was to promote discussion from a guilty perspective and maybe stop somebody else. The Army is not immune from pilots doing dumb things that lead to destroyed aircraft and lives. Just thought I would help to keep the discussion lively. ....Just for a minute for this brief thread, let's say the pilot is guilty of showboating . How many times have we heard someone say they want to be treated like an adult? Then some ass-clown goes off and does something like this. How many millions are wasted? How many of us know guys that like to push things further than others? This sort of stuff sickens me. In a 20++ year career, I have seen the twisted wreckage and burnt bodies of those that wanted to go just a bit further. It just is not worth it. I am now an old pilot. I got lucky and stopped being bold a long, long time ago before I damaged anything. I recently read something in a sister service safety article. It said something like, there are no new accidents, just new pilots waiting to relearn the same experiences the hard way. Ass clown behavior can be stopped if we man up and speak to our fellow pilots before something happens. Unfortunately, since we do not fly single pilot anymore, when someone goes ass-clown, there is some guy(s) along for the ride that get caught up in the carnage to follow. True story - CDR has to tell the parents of a young female passenger that their daughter died a most tragic death (survived the impact, only to die in the ensuing fire ball) and that the pilot was a known hotdog, but nobody every reined him in. I have probably hurt some feelings here. However, hopefully just one pilot will remember this and stop their PC from taking them along to their early death. Man up and kill the bad guys, not ourselves.....

I thought they were called rip-its? Towards the end of my deployment I would need two just to get out of bed

A swimming eagle?!?

If you're gonna shine your ass... you better not fuck it up.