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Ok, whose kid got on the internets?

Please let this thread die.

Here is an example of what you can make getting out of the military. https://www.mccombs.u...Statistics.aspx I'm getting my MBA at the University of Texas and the average salary plus bonus the first year out is around $140,000 per year, and that is in Texas. I'm getting out later this year and plan to do on-campus recruiting to get a job. I made a trip to all the top business schools in the country last year and there are tons of military guys at all the top MBA programs, and the schools really want us there. Here is a screenshot of the salaries of MBA students at the University of Chicago. https://faculty.chica...namics_1209.pdf There are plenty of jobs out there making a ton of money but you may have to upgrade your skills/resume to be in a position to go after them.

Here's the link everyone's been waiting for. https://www.lucasgruenther.com/ There's 2 paypal links on there---1 for a fund for his soon-to-be-born daughter, and a memorial fund that will be used to support special people who exemplify Luc's spirits and qualities. To Gaza:

Didn't know him, but looks like he was a pretty phenomenal photographer...his website. https://www.lucasgphotography.com/Portfolio/index.htm

You think the majority of AF pilots don't already privately consider (via a combination of their motivations and aggregate actions) the AF the best paid regional airline? How much do you think the going rate for civilian pylet is at a regional? The majority of people didn't join the AF pilot ranks to pursue non-flying employment the day after their initial commitment. It is what it is. This is at the heart of the tragedy of the common AF pilot. I'm not particularly interested in the particulars of the Army WO program, I just wanted to use it to illustrate that limiting AF pilots access to a technician track has done jack shit to help with the leadership deficit. As such, the 'up or out' is a fucking failure. In the ARC side of the house they have started with the business of "vectoring" people who check a box in vPC-GR saying "I want my career managed for senior leadership". I think that's great. Unfortunately the rest of the ARC is still expected to act AD-Lite and jump through the PME 9th grade intelligence-regressing content, but that could be changed. If the 'vectoring' implementation had more teeth to it, volunteering to be vectored would keep the vast majority of AF pilots concentrating on their SQ level progressions and leave the senior level stuff outside of the spectrum of "flying planes, fvckin and earning a check". As an added, the OPR system would almost instantly see a natural grade deflation that could now be better suited to have the kind of visible graduations required to stratify few people for few jobs as opposed to a whole bunch of OPR-clones for the same few jobs. The savings on PME/AAD/AT/school TDYs would be significant as well, if fiscal restraint is of consequence to you. But the system has too much inertia to let that happen. As such and as you see displayed in the attitudes of many on here, nobody will sidestep their personal motivations in order to attempt to change something for the benefit of their peers and at the cost of his/her job/vocational satisfaction. Look, keeping somebody at Major for the price of "we won't fuck with you" is an incredible motivator for the majority of these AF pylet types. I could be so brazen as to suggest O-3 caps and you'd still have takers, though the numbers would dwindle due to what I call "all AF wives are O-5 wives" syndrome, but that's for another thread. There really isn't any decent reason to write off the technician track so flippantly as the AF does. You'll never get quality out of somebody who doesn't want to be there. This is basic dynamics of rational motivators. Why pay through the nose for said deficit?

I think the most important tribute any of us in the AF can make to men like Raz and of the AF's Vietnam warrior generation is to not allow the heritage they made (and which they carried on from the warriors who had gone before them) to die on the vine because of political correctness. I have a collection of about 60 years' worth of USAF songbooks, going all the way back to Korea. Warriors singing obscene songs -- despite what some might have you believe to further their own agendas -- is most certainly not some kind of recently-manufactured-invented heritage. Turns out, when warriors came back from risking their pink butts in MiG alley and killing enemies to freedom, they liked to unwind by drinking, smoking, and singing off-color songs.

We've castrated our DOs and CCs, especially at the SQ level. They can't make any decisions without running it by the OG and WG. The "stay in and tough it out and change things!!!!!1" mantra is a joke.

You know how I'm finally 100% sure that you're just a troll? You defended TIB.

Roger, ditching my "opinion". "The crash investigators’ evidence was sparse: “With no eyewitness accounts, surviving aircrew members, emergency radio calls or `black box’ recordings, the specific reason for the spatial disorientation cannot be determined,” the investigation said. The only personnel who participated in the pre-flight briefing were the four men who perished." Read more: https://nation.time.com/2012/10/29/too-tired-to-fly/#ixzz2B4wxOYQ1