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Impossible, that's minimum of four FE's between two jets.

A few puts on the different aspects of this topic. First, I think arguing for a shake-up in the promotion process (as far as multiple looks IPZ, etc) is not what we should be focusing on. I'd rather see senior raters receive better guidance from their superiors - i.e., "do not use X/Y/Z as discriminators for stratification." I don't want to handcuff them too much, but multiple stories in this thread have proven that many SRs just don't get it and are making bad decisions. Second, Big Blue needs to make a final decision on if and when they want their officers to have an AAD. No more "highly recommended" or "implied through promotion stats" or any of that BS. Just come out and say whether it is a requirement or not and for what rank. I would assume that most senior leaders want their O-4s to have an AAD. The merits of that can be debated but I'd rather just have a definitive answer. My compromise on the whole thing would be...(assuming the "majors should have an AAD" would be the policy)... - Make it mandatory for all rated and select non-rated officers to finish the Air University Online Masters in order to be selected for promotion to O-4. Benefits to this would be that the Air Force controls the curriculum and can adjust it as conflicts and doctrine evolve. The course content is applicable to all rated officers (better understanding of joint organization, command and control, leadership and history). It's free, no ADSC is incurred, and doing this might help run the diploma mills out of business (who take about $700M tax dollars from the American public per year in TA/GI Bill money). - Open the eligibility for the program to O-3 pin on date. This gives members 4 years or so to finish the program prior to the O-4 board. It's only 11 8-week classes (88 weeks of class but you have 208 weeks to complete). This allows plenty of time to take a class, take a break for a deployment or high-tempo time period, then pick it up again later. The classes honestly don't take up too much time, and occasionally you even learn something useful. - Let SRs know that they cannot use GPA or date of completion during stratification. Allow the board to see only whether or not the member has completed the program. - Eliminate SOS and ACSC corr since the program teaches all this anyway. Again, this is a COMPROMISE. I hate AADs as much as the next guy but I think this is a fair meeting point that would satisfy Big Blue's desires while minimizing negative impact to the average rated officer. That's my .02, I know some will disagree.

Maybe at -17 bases

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What the hell is wrong with you idiot officers? Nine pages of semantics about your feelings and blah, blah, blah... When you are told by the NCA that openly gay people may serve, you salute smartly, STFU and get back to work. You're aren't paid to have an opinion. You are however, paid to enforce standards. Uniform standards. A male wearing nail polish? What's that got to do with his sexual orientation? (Which is none of your business, BTW.) You guys cry about the idiot shoe clerk NCO who called you out on something silly like PT gear, but you'll let slide facial hair and black fingnail polish? Drag the little dirtbag into his SNCO or commander's office and correct the situation on the spot. Explain to both parties present how dissapointed you are that the most basic of grooming regulations are being so blatantly disregarded. Give the little shit a lawful order to go home and fix it and explain to all the next time you see the young man out of uniform you'll have him arrested. What's become of the USAF I served in? Max, have years of high altitude airline flying rotted my brain? Isn't this how we used to do things?

For all you young ones who think that not doing a worthless AAD simply means you might not get promoted need to think harder. It pretty much means that you might not make it into the check of the month club. I thought the same thing when I was young about AADs. I figured I'd be rather be a crusty 0-4 line flyer anyway. Problem is after being passed over for the second time to 0-5 I was given a check for $130k and told to GTFO just 4 years shy of making it into the check of the month club. Fight the fight if you feel it worth it but you may not win. In my case, I turned lemons into lemonade and am now an 0-5 in the Guard and have been trucking along on AD orders more or less since I separated AD and future is bright for continued long term orders. Still no AAD. All I wanted to do was retire as an 0-4 but instead I'll have to retire as an 0-5 with an even bigger monthly retirement check. Maybe I did win?

I think Rusty and Chang are the same person.

https://www.airforcet...ry-construction Sheesh if only they knew about a little gem sitting at "an undisclosed location in southwest asia..." Oh and feel free to chime in with your infinite wisdom P.F. Chang...

Yeah, we're on the same page. I'll never tell guys what to do one way or the other, but I will make sure they understand the potential consequences of whatever path they choose. I just wish there were a way to organize them all into a way to just ignore the AAD. The penthouse offices would have to take notice if nobody does it anymore. They can't NOT promote everyone. Anyone willing to take it to the CGOC...? Sorry, I forgot, anyone who's a member probably loves the AAD requirement anyway. ETA: While my above suggestion was tongue-in-cheek, the leadership would definitely notice if they all of a sudden had a more professional, tactical expert force.

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This, sevenfold.

Liquid, I don't think AAD should be a factor at all unless the AF paid said individual to go full time. I say that because presumably that individual got a degree in something useful to the AF, and that time spent away means they're not in their primary career field and not able to get leadership opportunity there. Otherwise the system encourages the easiest BS degree possible. The AF should be sending smart dudes/dudettes to real universities to get quality degrees in things that benefit the AF. I know we send some, but if our goal is creating worldly, broadly educated future leaders, that should be the vehicle not non-sense online degrees. PME: I think getting rid of ASBC was a bad call, SOS should have died instead. Everything taught in SOS was better placed in ASBC or at the commissioning source. The replacement for SOS should be something like the Army has: based on occupational specialty but with the opportunity to cross the streams. In other words I as an aviation dude could attend an Intel focused SDE, except in this new system I would require dudes to attend a course outside of their specialty. It would be an early exposure to other AF specialties, that would setup IDE that is focused on the Joint-Operational level of integration. Ideally there would be no correspondence at all for this level.

P: Blinded by the light... CP: Wrapped up like a dusche... P: Its not dusche as in dusche bag, its duce. CP: Wrapped up like a duce? WTF does that mean? P: Its not wrapped up, its revved up. So why would wrapped up like a dusche mean anything? CP: Some people get all wrapped up in their duschery, oh and your 30 knots slow. P: 30 knots slow? Is that some sort of bar drinking pilot song?

Its my guess that he was quibbiling; trying to save face. Asaiana just released the names of the pilots of 214: Captain Sum Ting Wong; Line Check Airman Wi To Lo; FO: Ho Lee Fuk; FO: Bang Ding Ow

Sorry, but this really gets under my skin...dudes need to sack up...you want your bosses to listen to you but you always blame the environment as to why you cannot provide feedback. Having been a Sq/CC, I am sure there are dudes who were "afraid" to come see me, but from the looks of my overcrowded calendar, there were just as many, if not more, who were ready, willing and able to come sit down and chat about anything under the sun, including telling me where they thought things were going terribly wrong. What you are saying is that the Sq/CC is damned if he does do an interview and damned if he doesn't. Maybe it won't help the one guy who decided to get out but if there are systemic issues at that Commanders level then he can do something to fix them for the next guy, right? Change things to make the organization better? Stop with the pissing and moaning about how no one listens. I have never had a boss that was not willing to listen in more than 12 assignments. We may not have seen eye to eye and when we sat behind closed doors, they knew exactly where I was coming from. Sometimes they changed things, sometimes they didn't. I did not want a bunch of Yes, men in my organization. However, we all have to remember that some decisions are made for the betterment of the AF and the unit and when they do individual bitches take a back seat. Other times, that is not the case.

Personally torn on the value of an AAD. I believe the intent has morphed into a completely different animal. Originally it was to encourage critical thinking, to help develop your thinking about things other than the basic mission. Should it be a box you check, absolutely not, it should be a purposeful program that develops your ability to think about things bigger than yourself and the future. Honestly, flying is a young mans game...There is an old memo From Tooey Spaatz...paraphrasing here, but in short it says pilots in their late 40's shouldn't fly at night or fly tactical aircraft...anyway, what I am trying to say is as a young major you are probably as good as you will ever be in the jet. Yes there are old high time Lt Col's who can fly the crap out of a plane, but we MUST develop people that can move up with the bigger picture. Its funny because a lot of the bitching on this forum is about the ancillary stuff, "I just want to fly"...well we need some people that just want to fly...but not a lot, there are lines of young people at the door who want to get in and fly. As our service gets smaller we also need folks who are able to think and lead from a strategic point of view. (Look at what happens we let the non-rated guys run the staff, they make some really uniformed decisions.) It probably matters not anyways as the fighter mafia has sold it's soul to preserve the F-35. The cuts we (USAF), are about to endure are simply staggering, ultimately we will only need 189 Raptor Pilots and a couple hundred F-35 pilots, everything else will be parked in the boneyard so we can all go to school fulltime.

Seems to me that telling the whole world about it online is a lapse in judgement in itself!