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Were they good at their jobs and mission-focused? If so, then I don't give a shit.

WORDS THAT ARE DIFFICULT FOR A PILOT TO SAY WHEN DRUNK: 1. Innovative 2. Preliminary 3. Proliferation 4. Cinnamon WORDS THAT ARE VERY DIFFICULT FOR A PILOT TO SAY WHEN DRUNK: 1. Specificity 2. Anti-constitutionalistically 3. Passive-aggressive disorder 4. Transubstantiate WORDS THAT ARE DOWNRIGHT IMPOSSIBLE FOR A PILOT TO SAY WHEN DRUNK: 1. No thanks, I'm married. 2. Nope, no more booze for me! 3. Sorry, but you're not really my type. 4. No thanks, I'm not hungry. 5. I'm not interested in fighting you. 6. Thank you, but I won't make any attempt to dance. I have no coordination and would hate to look like a real fool! 7. Oh no, I must be going home now as I have to work in the morning.

I legitimately trust that the current CSAF is looking out for us... Unfortunately it doesn't look like he can make too many institutional changes (sad that the CSAF can't actually do that), but at least with him at the helm I don't feel like he is adding to the mayhem. We all bitch on here about the AF management holding leadership positions, but I think we have a legit Leader sitting in the office right now who genuinely wants the AF to get out of its own way and trusts his young Officers to actually lead. What sucks is that I think we have almost a universally minded group of clones from the O-6 to O-8 level that will nod and smile when he gives motivational speeches, but in reality they are just waiting him out until another manager takes over.

What the fuck ever. WE caused it? How about our current leaderships generation? They clearly did so much to stop this "culture" when they were mid level Captains/Majors. But sure, WE pissed it away... It's those damn fighter pilots and their rape songs! That and their mermaid handled mugs just drive them to rape and sexual assault.

I can't help but figure the AF will still figure out a way to waste the cost savings that are made.

Run? Run? Why, is the food court about to close? If so, I gotta go...

" "Nobody is talking about the possibility of armed conflict coming out of this [ADIZ decision]," Warren said. Apparently Col Warren doesn't check BODN.

Congrats bro, sounds like a good deal. I'm trying to bring balance to my "three legged bar stool" by balancing my Guard Job, Airline Job and family. Moved away from the Guard base because ODF is turning sour, man days are drying up, and politics are getting out of control. Jetblue and my family now has more of my attention because I live in base, and only commute once a month to New York for drill weekend.

Sorry to keep encouraging this derail, but I can't comprehend you guys on this one. I don't know how to be clearer. We are a military force. Being good at your job is the number one priority, obviously, but they're are things that have to be done along with that. Not being obese ought to be a given. This is yet one more reason why every other branch of the military derides the AF. Not because we have fat people (the Navy has more), but because we can't be bothered to stay in shape or care about it. This wouldn't even be a discussion in the Army. I know, I know, we joined the AF to not deal with Army crap. I agree, but come on, just do the minimum to not be fat. That's not asking too much. Most of the time you can do that without even exercising. Just eat better... If our fatties could be trusted to stay in shape, we probably wouldn't even need a test, but I bet the PT test existed long before fatties in the military were tolerated. Sick burn man! My dislike of people who make excuses for people too lazy to simply not be fat reminds you of some D Bag sq/cc you once had. Good story. It's not like I'm asking anyone to run a 9:30 during the test, just look like someone who cares enough about his own health to not need a shoehorn to fit into a uniform... I know it's probably not the case, but these arguments sound like they come from overweight people who have "accepted" themselves. That's cool in the civilian world. ETA: thankfully I spell better than amcflyboy PTs. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

I'll drink for even remembering this, but aren't you supposed to "reverse taller tap" before marching for a significant period of time to avoid these problems?

Sounds like the first day you buy a boat...

I learned a long time ago that the Air Force was the best it will ever be on the day you joined. Every change they make just makes it crappier.

Give me a fat airman who can handle anything I throw at him rather than a 150 pound marathon runner who is more interested in completing their degree and punching than working as a team member to complete the mission.

Now, if they were throwing in dental coverage as well, they may be on to something….

You can tell it's British, because if any recruits suffered "pelvic injuries" here, you can bet it'd be a SARC issue & not a marching issue.

Gen Welsh is awesome. It's the thousands of middle men, Liquid and Chang, that will hamper any true change.

First thing, why would you ever want to go to North Korea? It's not some quaint midcentury communist amusement park. Second thing, that poor guy is probably going through hell on Earth, made even worse by surviving that hellish war only to be captured by them some 60 years later.

A fifth-grade teacher told her students "I'd like for one of you to tell the class a story with a moral", so little Suzy raised her hand. "OK Suzy" said the teacher, "please tell the class your story". So little Suzy says "my aunt Mary is an F-16 pilot and she got shot down over Iraq ans she had to eject from her plane. All she had with her was a pint of whiskey, a pistol and a knife. She decided to drink the whiskey on the way down so the bottle wouldn't break if she hit the ground hard. Then she landed right in the middle of 20 bad guys. She killed 12 of them with her pistol but then she ran out of ammo, so she killed seven more with her knife but then the blade broke, so she killed the last one with a karate chop that broke his neck." Horrified, the teacher says "Suzy, that's a terrible story. What kind of moral could it possibly have?" To which little Suzy replied "stay away from aunt Mary when she's been drinking."

Good God, stop while you're behind.

More than a few years back, at the Shaw O'club, we were deep into an evening of fighter pilot wilding. Crud, a broken door, a few broken tables (one of the F-16 squadron's table mysteriously ended up on the golf course....on fire), lots of choir practice, got invited then dis-invited to a retirement party in another part of the club when they didn't approve of our re-enactment of the formal dining room scene from the Great Santini, and other Friday Night Bar Olympics type events. Finally the crowds started to ease off. We settled into a friendly game of 4-5-6 on the crud table. With about $1,200 on the table, we aren't bothering anyone when this older gentleman comes up to the table and says, "Are you guys gambling?" A Lt. replies, "No, we are just rolling dice and we are using money to keep score." We thought that was hysterical. He then says, "Should you guys be doing this?" Someone comments, "Look, if you are going to join us, you have to get at the end of the line." More laughter. Then this older gentleman produces an ID card...... dead silence until someone says "General Nelson....welcome to Shaw, sir!" He had just taken over 9AF a couple days prior.

Back from when KC-135s had navs. What's the typical front end crew complement of a -135? One dude that washed out of pilot training and two that should've.

Might want to stand by there Heathcliff. "I remember a time" we were headed into LPLA (that still Lajes?) at night when the approach control radios failed and we were on heading to a big dark patch on the radar.........anyway the whole night had been sporting SO to get a jump on depAture in two dayz I stomped upstairs to Navy Wx shop and ordered weather.."any wx of note between here and the East Coast? says I....."Nope" says he......."thank's bye" "thanks see ya" and off we go to billeting and the next day off to KGB central (George the Crook's) for hours of merriment with the crew chiefs. Next day badly hungover..back up to Wx shop....Navy guy (who I could of sworn I saw at the Crook's..it wasn't that big a plaCE") drops the wx in front of me including a satellite photo of a full blown hurricane blocking our route home. Well what can you say? Anyway, got a nice boot in the ass going back so that was good. .....................................................we promptly named it "Hurricane Numbnuts".........

I got some jokes about all the various crew positions...but come to think of it, a lot of them aren't too funny. I think you guys might be a little too sensitive for those. My joke was right at the weather guy. Are you a weather guy? If so...sorry. What does the 10 dollars mean? Should I have tipped the weather shop?

The Air Force has the best CSAF in years, and we pissed it away by distracting him with sex scandals. I know that it was a statistically insignificant amount of folks who were involved in the worst of it, but the culture enabled it to happen. The more time he has spent testifying in Congress about this issue, the less clout and energy he has to advocate for and make changes that matter. This also derailed the successes of Gen Rice at AETC, who was fixing a lot at his command before he had to re-vector to address the MTI sex scandal. Re-defining Blues Monday was great, as now it's up to lower level leadership to decide how best to deal with it rather than have his office take the heat from the troops. He has done a lot to address the importance of the USAF in times of shrinking budgets, but most of his public work has been in motivating and caring for his troops, which is a significant piece of his job despite how far up the food chain he resides.