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FIFY, dude.

And by "fire", I think you mean "retire with full pension and benefits".

They sell douchebags at Home Depot?

Don't throw our squadrons into this generalization. Life if good over here, thanks in large part to our squadron leadership.

.....so they're maids, cooks, and butlers.

Someone misses flying fighters and thinks he's funny. He's not.

Very good question Scoobs, I don't want to go off topic too much on this thread, but I guess I'll bite for this one post. I don't want to sound too cliche, but I think of joining the Air Force as broadening my career. I'm an aviation professional. I'm absolutely fascinated with combat aviation as I always have been, and although the Apache is a hell of a machine, the Army's focus is and always will be the ground force. I would also very much like to be an O-grade officer, but when you do that in the Army, you will fly significantly less. (For more on that topic, take a look at threads like Army Vs. Air Force Flying, etc.). This isn't my first day as an adult and I understand that there will be politics and organizational issues everywhere you go, but I have spent a good deal of my time in the Army working with the Air Force, and I can say my experience with their side of the house has been much more enjoyable. I understand the difference between personal and professional opinions, and much of this falls under the "personal" side. If a unit was asking me this question during a board, I would be sure to stick to the "professional" side. I'd say the main reason most people want to make the switch is that The Army is a huge, general-purpose ground force, and it's command focus is oriented toward that. This creates a huge lack of understanding on how to run an aviation organization. Sometimes you get really good aviation commanders like Gen. Cody who understand how to manage it, but most of the time you are under the command of a non-aviation commander. Sometimes that makes for minor safety issues, like having pilots participate in mandatory ruck runs (as if the health risk is worth the physical fitness), because the post commander said "all units will...etc.". Sometimes it's a major issue, like switching to a two piece "flight suit," which actually costs more than keeping the nomex pickle suit, and isn't really fire retardant. All because a Sergeant Major thought the pickle suit was a "Status Symbol" and no one who was making the polices knew better. From a strategic perspective, this issue manifests itself in different ways. For example, the Army will often fall behind the Air Force in some very important technologies, like how we use BFT instead of LINK16. Or our mission planning software, which is basically a modified version of an old software program that the Air Force developed a long time ago and has since moved beyond. Also, when the Air Force literally asks us to participate in some JAAT or CAS training, our command isn't very concerned or helpful at all and doesn't work with us much. We pretty much have to make it happen on our own time by squeezing it in when able. Such training is immensely important in our modern Joint-Tactics focused war strategy. I guess part of it is a pride thing between Army ground force commanders and the other branches. And yes, in my situation, the allure of a fighter jet is incredible. The power, performance, mission, everything. I sat in an F-16 cockpit while I was talking to some Viper guys about CAS training and sensor feeds, and that is my kind of office. Singe pilot, excellent view, plenty of firepower. I don't care if pulling Gs is a little uncomfortable and I have to stay in shape, sign me up! But anyway there you go, back to the topic I guess!

Best part - They're also usually flaming assholes with demands far beyond their station.

What's the odds no one over O-4 gets even slightly ruffled in the "discipline" and "accountability" to come down from on high?

Jesus Christ. I'll bet this guy plays shoot your watch and talks about aspect ratio, and notching, and what not while fucking his wife. Guys, the water's nice on the other side. Big Blue will get the idea when you start voting with feet in large numbers. There is literally no reason to put up with this kind of shit.

Or late Friday afternoon right before everyone takes off for two weeks of Xmas break.

Nevermind the DO -- where the ef is the SQ/CC?

I'd tell the dude to fuck off.

No there is a apply through dates button when you are editing your entitlements. Just click the calendar and make it go through your return date. Then put the amount in as you are good. The calendar is in the top left part once you are editing your entitlements. Sorry if its not clear but I'm not sitting in front of dts, however I am drinking a German beir in my lazy boy.

Seems to me, America has had this discussion already. I believe we decided AGAINST discrimination.

That's a good half inch over the limit on either side. I'll take that as tacit approval that the east/west boundary extension is in effect. Thanks Boss!

So competing in Cross Fit competitions is one of my civil rights. I've never thought of this complex concept from such a point of view before. I'm going to go to Pizza Hut, ask them for a Whopper, and sue them for a million bucks for infringing on my civil rights to eat what I want to eat at Pizza Hut. Am I doing this right? This world is getting more baffling by the day. No wonder you start out knowing it all and end up wondering WTF is going on... Bendy