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Fucking stop it. This guy can't win. For years dudes have bitched about all of the little paper cut stuff in the AF...including this sign, t-shirts, patches, masters, PME. Well guess what? We have a CSAF who is actually fixing a lot of those irritants. And every time he fixes one, someone like you bitches "well, he shoulda done X, Y, or Z instead." Do you think he cancelled an afternoon of meetings about force shaping to hammer in the sign himself? Or do you think he may simply have mentioned it to someone and it got fixed? Everything isn't an either-or! For fucks sake. The man is trying. Some things are easy fixes. Some are complicated beyond measure. If you can't get behind him, sts, who will you follow?

Every time I even hear HPO mentioned, it makes me want to go to the airlines. HPOs are not the guys you need to entice to stay in. People who actually want to become GOs are generally going to stay in because that is who they are. The people you need to convince are all the guys who want to top out at O-5, maybe O-6 if the job was right, but see the lifestyle of their commanders and DOs and don't think it sounds like something they want to be a part of. Going to wing stand up to explain to the wing commander as to why a four ship landed 20 minutes late? Getting an angry phone call from the OG because Lt X didn't properly fill out an eSSS before sending an unnecessary memo to the group? Having to tell your squadron that they are going to miss Christmas and be "deployed" for six months to a base in Korea where a third of them have already spent 12+ months because some four star wants another squadron in his command? No thanks. Fix this type of BS and the AF won't need a pilot bonus; they'll have to kick guys out because too many want to stay in. Last years change was a significant step in the right direction, but I think 2003 year group retention (or lack thereof) is going to force them to up the ante. Problem is, that would require explaining to Congress why guys who spent years getting to their dream job won't take a quarter of a million dollars to stay in that job.

I was willing to be cool with the little stuff at first, but yeah, there are so many big ticket items he could fix with policy immediately, yet he doesn't. I'll take the little stuff, but overall he's dropping the ball when he leaves those big ticket items untouched. There's a difference between him saying, "we need to do things smarter in regards to AADs", and actually changing the regs/policy, and not allowing wg/cc, etc to make the policy more restrictive. Sorry, random Sunday morning ramble. Pick any other number of examples... Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App!

Actually, the shittiest people I've encountered that occupied the commander's office have all been promoted. Every single one.

this year's bonus is called VSP.

I am sure they will let you know by the end of the month. Be patient. Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App!

Thanks fellas. Pretty sweep app.

I hear they're looking at adding an FE station to the Hornet.

If you're PCS there. Taking leave to go. Maybe even if you're there TDY (good luck). See you there, hopefully.

My $ is on the same ACP as last year. Remember, it may look like a retention tool, but is more accurately described as a planning tool. They'll never get pilots to accept ADSCs for nothing, and it's impossible for these clowns to manage the force with 100% free agents beyond the 11-12 year point. They need the stability the ADSCs provide in the FM process. It's not about getting the appropriate number of pilots to stay as much as it's about having the advantage of planning for the future with the ADSC tool. IMHO... Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App!

There's a big difference between having the authority to fix something and actually being able to fix it. I'm sure every CSAF, SecDef, and POTUS has had many a grand vision dashed once they see the reality of their office.

A lot of people have been fired lately, but rarely for poor performance. The missile types were only fired after all the bad publicity and it was coincidence that stuff even came to light. I've never seen a commander or anyone of importance fired for sucking at their job; sometimes they just don't get promoted.

Champ, I agree with your sentiment, and far be it from me to defend the mgmt at 18AF, but I am 90% sure this is a boy-wonder wing commander requirement, and not coming down from on high... Think the wing cc is gonna roll in just anyone to sit for a spell with HIS boss and possibly make him look a fool? No. Hence the screen. And the subsequent garbage in - garbage out dynamic of the whole thing. This is a wing commander problem, not at 18AF problem. Knowing the current command climate, this should surprise no one. Now, if the 18AF expects honest feedback from the general population he has to go to the source, not the sources supervisors or chain of command. (Get the hooks out of your ass, do some battlefield circulation and pull aside a random group of captains - ala Gen Welsh). The fact that DCO is being used to touch as many people from afar as possible (like the new money saving version of "High Flight") should tell you how "important" this is to leadership - as in, it ain't. It's all show. It briefs well. Take note fellas... One day you are going to be leading people. Decide now what your style and legacy will be, and find good and bad examples to pull from. Just remember, perception is reality. Chuck Edit: follow up - also take note of how this "tasker" was pushed down - via the exec chains, circumventing the squadron commanders authority, though they would ultimately be able to nominate dudes up. No decentralized execution. No empowerment. No trust. No "send me your three strongest dudes to come learn a thing or two about leadership and work in some focus groups for a few days." No, instead we get "send up names, OPRs and PT scores so we can screen them and then the wing commander will decide who is going to participate." If the wing is this far in your chili, maybe you don't need squadron commanders, let alone a Group commanders... Small example, but I think it says a lot. Cheers

Got this dozy in the inbox today: So, in order to participate in a DCO focus group - sitting behind a pc screen, picking boogers and Cheetos - you have to submit your PT scores and last 3 OPRs. I'd assume the point of such an event was for the 18th AF/CC to get some tactical level opinions from his troops - maybe see some small portion of the world through the eyes of those suffering through it, and not a stoplight chart & some PhD level spreadsheet. Instead the Wing has to nominate people then vet them based on strats and PT scores. Absurd.

I will never use this app....ever Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App!

Leave it to a Nav to post a picture with some dude's junk in it.

I don't know. Those sitting on the fence, trying to decide if they want to stick it out and continue doing all they can to fix their piece of the sinking ship, now will apply a ~$90-125K hit to the "continue to serve" option. What once was not entirely about money now is, and the airline copilot pay gap is comparatively smaller. I bet AFPC feels like they just used the nuke option. What they don't see is that they used it on themselves.

I am raising the BS flag, lookie rookie. It doesn't add up. Why would your buddy who has that much ADSC left be approved? Someone is yanking his chain. Also had the scary thought that when congress goes through another round of sequestration, guess where they will be cutting the "fat" from? Your vsp and Tera purse.