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Is that after being accused of DUI, or after being convicted?

Does this mean if a fellow squadron member is the Wing CGO of the Year that his squadron mates can also claim on their OPR that they are also the Wing CGO of the Year? Or do we only share the bad things?

You obviously don't know crap about gunships or the A Code. The ACW is a work in progress...as we've seen on the battlefield. The HUD will change some of that and the J will be a completely different as well. All things being equal CSO, I'd rather have the gas.

We have?! Guess I must not have been paying attention. In all seriousness though, I too was inculcated with the notion of America-World Protector throughout my government-sponsored education, but I'm slowly starting to realize that there's a lot more to it once you scratch the surface. History it seems, is not always what it seems...

Sweet. My 78 should keep me safe. Fat Bastard like a boss.

Any chance of getting the unrelated crap moved/deleted from this thread to clear it up and stick to the subject? On topic: We talk a lot about how getting a Masters degree takes away from our ability to be good pilots. Totally false. It's the pointless additional duties that are taking valuable time away from our ability to be good pilots. I simply don't have time to plug away on a masters at work with all the other pointless stuff I'm doing. What the AAD really takes away from is quality family time with the wife and kids. When I'm not being overworked, I ended up spending far too much of my "free" time working towards a degree I never wanted or needed. I'm nearly finished with it..and now I doubt I'll ever finish. If they change the rules on me again, so be it.

So the current CSAF is one missile field fcuk-up away from being a member of multiple corporate boards and the generations below him down to at least the wing level were raised, and most rewarded by, the system that demanded a master's degree to show your eagerness to follow in their shoes (pun intended). Many of you currently wearing the uniform have seen this scenario once already and it wasn't pretty. ORFs have seen multiple re-makes of the movie. Don't get a master's if you don't want to. But make an educated, informed risk calculation when deciding.

Are you the guy with the sweet vest in the front row?!

First post.... Navs - we appreciate your contribution ACs - everyone still respects your authoritah Isn't this thread supposed to be about masters degrees?

Christ - can we make this guy CSAF when Welsh retires?

You need to stay in your lane bro. You and one other on BO talk a big game about nav/cso role in the ACW/J and pilots "just driving the bus". That's ing laughable. Regardless of the perceived talent in the back of the plane you still do what you are told...by the pilot...in nearly every phase of flight. Check yourself. If you are part of either program and you fly with an AC that is not working his crew like finger puppets you come find me and I'll fix it quick. PM me for my contact info.

And that's what's most important. If you can't fix complicated issues that are present throughout society like DUIs, suicides, sexual assaults, and pretty much anything that involves humans being humans, then at least do something visible. Leadership is hard, it's much easier to just be a manager and claim you're a leader.

Geez if that dude locates the Virginia warehouse holding the rubber Afghan boats you can kiss your $8m goodbye.

While I realize this is a serious topic, does anyone else here the news and instantly think of Archer? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

A first PFT failure should only cause a referral report if the report closes out before it is corrected. Somewhere is actually closing out reports early because of a single PFT failure? If that's true, we're so far past full retard that I don't know what to say.

No, it's the logical extension of it. If everyone is a winner and individual achievement unfairly demoralizes lower performers by ignoring their contributions to the winner's feat, then individual failure is merely a symptom of a group failure to support the failing individual. From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.

I don't see your point... you're saying because we, military folk who make acronyms for everything, use an acronym to describe a few nationally accepted acronyms that these events are worse than they were before the term "ARI" came to fruition? YGBFKM... the issue here isn't the elevation of how bad a DUI is (although I don't think society takes it serious enough) it's how to prevent them within our own society. These actions affect the mission, more so than just stripped qualifications and punishments that affect individual morale. You don't want to be in a unit that has an ARI that results in a death or paralysis (I use the acronym just for you). I agree that events shouldn't be ARI because someone had just one beer, but I'm sure stats show that often isn't the case. Regardless, I see the sarcasm in your post but I have a feeling there is some seriousness in the first two lines.

If you are an AC "working your crew like finger puppets", you obviously don't understand what a crew aircraft is all about, and god help the people who have to fly with you.

No I'm talking about how nav-centric the missions are, especially the gunships, and even more especially the AC-W and AC-J. The only control the pilot has over the weapons is a consent switch (besides putting the airplane in the right place). It's not a traditional nav roll anymore, but that's why the transition to CSO started a long time ago across the board. Not going anywhere anytime soon. In any case, we're completely off topic now. Master's degrees...if you want to get one, get one. If you don't, don't. It's that simple.