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Same shit, different day.

WTF? That is the worst excuse I've ever heard. They have no f^&*ing right to know what is in your "off base home". We're in the military, NOT Nazi Germany. I don't remember seeing anything like this anywhere the last time I PCSed. It feels like part of an "agenda" to me. Or maybe I'm just paranoid.

They can "want" all day long... Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App!

False, an A400 couldn't get off the ground with Chuck Norris on board.

Note that Lt Gen Cox did NOT say that you should attempt to get said info from a local commander. Remember when your chain of command meant something, and commanders were notified when their personnel received life-changing news? The robot email now knows more about your destiny than the man in the office with the G-series orders. My, how things have changed...

I figured, man. It was sarcasm of course. To be somewhat fair, Illinois has actually gotten a little less sucky (assuming you're not in Chicago)--but I still would never choose to live there. You can always tell them 'GFY' by not telling them anything.

Is the stunt willingly getting aboard an Airbus?

Surprised an A400M got off the ground period.

Chuck Norris would have done it with the air deflector doors stowed... and JATO rockets.

NOW this thread has run its course and will be closed. At this point we're nothing except giving PYB/CCP more of the attention he craves. Until he returns in another form (new user name), we're going to shut this down.

A few things I've learned/observed in my 30+ years of adulthood and 25+ years since being commisioned: 1. Military aviation requires near absolute precision and professionlism in planning, briefing, execution, and debriefing. I have never met a single officer (I know and have worked for many who are now or became GO's) who could maintain that high level in all facets of their careers and at all times. People need balance. Flyers need a forum where they can let loose. It used to be the Auger Inn at Randolph AFB (not sure if it still is). Mather AFB had their famous JOC night. Reese AFB had the Smokin' Hole. Eielson had the "Club". Many squadrons had their own bars, like Moody's at Red Flag. These were/are places where aviators could go, be irreverent, be bawdy, be undisciplined, and be on a somewhat level field with leadership. How many here have seen their Wing CC with sleeves rolled up having a beer or playing crud or smoking a stogie? When you do, at that moment he is one of you. How often does that happen now? Probably not much. Base Ops offers a welcome alternative to places that are mostly long gone. The squadron bar has replaced the squadron bars and O'Clubs and the NSFW forums have replaced the doofer books. 2. When a dude walks into a bar looking for a fight, he will most likely find it while lookling like a jackass. He will look it even more when he gets indignant when he gets his ass kicked. 3. When someone thinks they are in the midst of assholes, they probably should take a step back and think about who the common denominator is. 4. Differing opinons are usually heard when offered in a credible well thought out manner. It is possible to be right in one's opinion, but completely wrong headed in expressing it (being an ass about it). That usually tunes people out. Joseph McCarthy was right about Communists in government and Hollywood, but was such an ass that he was marginalized and eventually not heard. The louder one yells while trying to force their views on others, the deeper the fingers go into the ears of those who are subjected to the rant. At some point it morphs from peers hearing a guy expressing an opinion to peers seeing that guy being a jackass. Then the focus is no longer on the opinion, but on the jackass It is good to know when that point is reached. 5. A small dose of humility goes a long way. One does not compromise their integrity by allowing that they may be wrong about something or that they made a mistake. I've seen commanders fess up in a debrief and they won lots of respect points by doing so. I've seen a Red Flag deployed forces commander sit himself down for not maintaining his altitude block. Good on him. I've also seen or heard of commanders who tried to ignore obvious mistakes to save face. They came across as jackasses. If a person communicates to others in a condesending fashion, they can expect likewise, regardless if their point if valid. Example of humility - my spelling sucks, so I'm sure there is a mistake somewhere in this post. I believe we grow intellectually stale if we only expose ourselves to things with which we agree and believe differing views are welcome here when offered in a credible fashion. . One needs to have thick skin and be willing and able to defend one's differeing view. One garners respect when one does that when challenged instead of reacting with a tantrum. Again, the issue then morphs from a differing viewpoint to a jackass having a tantrum. Enjoy the forums guys (and Mustache Sally). Keep posting and I'll keep reading. Regards, RF

my thoughts are that the majority of the heavy lifting has been done by the strike eagles, that the f35 would be severely range limited, and that manpads and other ir systems will still be a HUGE threat to a single jet engine that operates close to the edge of its envelope

You act like you found the holy grail for drop night. Here is a question worth answering (as a former UPT flt/cc) are you going to count up all bases c-17 drops and then tell your flt/cc there was one more floating around and why didn't you get it? If you would have spent more time studying EPQs rather than trolling around AF.mil sites you wouldn't have to worry about the drop!