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Oh good. Everyone knows it's safer to stare at the MFD near your ballsack than it is to actually look outside.

You know what you get when you buy a new 2015 Dodge Challenger SRT Hellact with a 6.2L superchargerd V8 boasting 707 HP......................a Dodge

It's a classic "oven" versus "microwave" debacle. Oh, and some general probably asked for portholes on the sides, you know, so the fellas can stick out their guns and shoot people. Not to mention the need for "sheep specs." This piece of satire is timeless, sad, and funny. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXQ2lO3ieBA Out

Ram, were you in the USAF in the mid 90's when a C-141 collided with a GAF C-160 off the coast of West Africa? The investigating board determined TCAS would have saved both crews. The CSAF at the time, Gen Ryan, did not like that finding and argued to remove it. The AMC/DO argued for it and the finding remained. (I had a friend who was on the safety board and witnessed the argument, so I'm telling the story 2nd hand and from memory). There are times when pilots flying a heavy cannot move the plane fast enough to avoid a collision when using only see and avoid. Sometimes the closure rate is too fast and there is not enough time. In the case of the C-141 accident, the C-160 was unobserved (TCAS would have changed that), but the board determined even if it had been seen, based on the closure rate, the crew could not have reacted quickly enough to avoid the collision (the aircraft commander was actually out of the seat at the time). IMO, the visibility in the C-17 and C-130 is not that great and terrible when compared to the bubble canopy of the Tweet (using the 3 planes I flew post UPT as examples). The MFDs in the C-17 are in a good location and with two pilots, it works well to have one pilot looking inside or be head's down at certain times, like when there is a TCAS alert. TCAS has probably saved several if not many aircrew, military and civilian. (It also gives airlifters great SA during Red Flags). So for heavies, sense and avoid works. Back in 1991, there were two A-10s from Alex that mid-aired, killing both pilots (had a friend on that board also). The board determined they converged at an angle where they didn't see each other until it was too late. TCAS may have helped them also.

The CPL didn't seem all that surprised, though. CPLs are pretty rare in the Army and I'm not exactly sure why they have them. Salute to Jay, though. He's a stand-up guy. ;) LS

No THE TACC does not coordinate bombing missions.. but the airlift missions bringing the bombs to the AOR, then get on... well you get the idea. You have to remember the 2nd and 3rd order effects of your job. Which leads me to my point, she must of had a real easy no stress job to reach those conclusions about killing people.

I would think the hardest think about working in the command center at Scott would be having to tell your parents that your job has almost nothing to do with actually being in the military.

So, she was a TACC controller. That would give me PTSD. I feel the need to smoke some weed every time I call those clowns.