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But Chang is the officer the AF deserves...

Agreed. But I don't understand what is accomplished by pointing a digital finger on this forum to those who stayed/are staying in and saying "I told you so". When I leave- if it's next year or in nine more years, I will wish the best of luck to those still serving. In my humble neck of the Air Force, I work with the best folks I could have ever hoped to work with.

I was going to PM Vetter for some career advice…good thing you stepped in or who knows what could have happened!

FIFY

Yes, young guys should strive to be the pilot turned exec that wants to climb the big blue ladder. I don't know Vetter but I know many good dudes who were great bros, terrific pilots and could have been awesome leaders had they stayed in. Likewise I know many dudes who used to be good dudes, decent pilots but traded it in to sit exec so they could go to school and get a strat. Given a choice is full my sq with dudes like Vetter over the USAF golden children anyday based on attitude alone. Face it Chang, the USAF leadership tracking system is balls-ass-broke! It's why the USAF is a shitshow held together by the hard tactically job focused workers who get punished by the system while ass-licking ball fondling square fillers get promoted.

So the AF pulled a bunch of bullshit on Vetter (and on a lot of other dudes), he decided it was best for him to get out vs. eat the "Capt until 20" shit sandwich and somehow he's putting himself ahead of others? I don't know Vetter personally, but I do know several good dudes in the same situation he was in - none of them were shitbags or bad officers, they simply got thrown to the side by an AF who doesn't give a shit about anyone. Let me guess, you're one of those people who thinks those who get out pre-20+ are selfish, screwing others, don't understand the meaning of service, etc. We certainly need good dudes to stay and be good leadership in the future, but those who do not want to take that path are not bad officers or putting themselves above others. They did their time and gave a shitload more than 99% of this country - good on them, they deserve a "thanks" at minimum, not this bullshit.

Rothenberg ob der Tauber and Strausberg were two of our favorite places. Each about a 2 hr drive from K-town in different directions. Have a great time.

You have to give us something....

PM sent

Dood, you got passed over for Major? That must have been an epic party! That said, you can poo poo the WIC PRF stuff all you want. It's actually difficult to compete when you're in the 57th wing. Not so much just making major, but schools and O-5 is a different animal when you're surrounded by weapons officers and the thunder birds.

Actually I tried to quit during the VSP fiasco of 2011, then got passed over. So here's how it actually went: Vetter: "uhhhh, fuck you AF, I quit!...and the AF is doomed and full of retards." AF: No, you can't quit. We need you. AF: Here's you a great assignment and we need you there, but we're not going to promote you! Vetter: Perfect! I get to fly Hogs in AZ for 2 more years then I can get out a year early! AF: Vetter, you're passed over twice now, but we need your skills. So you can stay until 20 years as a Captain. Vetter: Haha! Fuck you! Deuces! AF: Fine, but you're not getting invol sep pay. Fuck you! Vetter: Deuces! Break break! Vetter: No, Lt Col DudewhosignedmyPRF, I will not write you a letter of rec for my airline. Little different than your version.

If you absolutely have to have the money immediately perhaps you weren't in the best position to VSP in the first place.

No shit, dawg. I know what it is. Just seeing the examples they used was comical.

Biggest douchebag post I've seen in a long while

Young guys reading these posts: this is the exact type of officer you do not want to be like. For every Vetter, there's 10 officers putting others ahead of themselves. Seek out those guys/gals for mentorship and avoid the "Vetters" of the Air Force like the plague.