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Holy Monday morning f'ing quarterback. 1.). If you are a USAF pilot and haven't flown an F prefix, read your post, and think carefully if it applies. 2.). If you are in pilot training, just punch yourself in the balls and go back to the correct forum, not this one. 3.) If you have never flown a USAF airplane, read your post, delete it, punch yourself in the balls, and realize we don't care, a few of your FARs are trumped by our -1's. (not that you know what that is). 4.). We don't know who is right or wrong in this situation, we will not know for about 30 days but will never share that info on this forum. The AIB and NTSB will come up with something and hopefully it is close to the SIB, but this forum will never know. Back to guessing who killed Kennedy.

Doubtful...think of the safety analysis that would have to be done. Think of the paper and powerpoint briefings...think of the children! Seriously though, probably not. We'd just burn a whole crew to get the check done, just taxi early to the runup area and then join the formation for a good ol' Black Jack-20. And then take the lead because they'll have an oil overtemp, 2 will have to reset SKE, 3 actually needs to drop an actual so he'll drop back to 4, while 4 will do a dry pass which is great training for the indoc nav, and finally they'll all drop off after the third route while we do pro and ask for an overflight just because.

Video NSFW, hence a link instead of embedding it so the thread could still be reviewed at work...

My thoughts were those in leadership positions are going to be seeing the results of that type of indoctrination in the newly commissioned and enlisted. It's going to get worse regarding SARC type scenarios would be my guess.

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Would have never happens if the Viper had a Flight Engineer.

It also has a questionable ID matrix and often shoots down friendlies.

Not worried about them, they're just playing radical revolutionary while in college before they move on to their upper middle class life via family connections and most likely the accidental privilege afforded by their birth, they are annoying and obnoxious but they themselves are not harmful, it's the bullshit they spew out to people born into horrible circumstances and grow up and are pissed for a variety of reasons, some valid but most not, at "the system", that concerns me. They infantilize them, tell them lies, half-truths and propaganda to make them angry, jealous, aggrieved and distracted from actually doing something about their own lives. The West or America is not being destroyed from outside but inside, these are the cancers eating away at us.