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ETA until UPT direct to RPA returns to the -38 side of the house? What's old is new and what's new is old...

Wow, the T-38 drops have been pretty sweet lately. It reminds me of the early 2000s.

A kick in the groin coupled with feelings of desperation, abandonment, and hopelessness, if I've been reading this board correctly....

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/11/us-military-tries-halt-brain-drain/413965/ This piece does reiterate much of what's already been said in the Military Times article, but as a young millennial, I identified more with Barno's discussion about the cultural and generational aspects of the issue than I did Jowers. Again, nothing really new, I just thought I'd share the read. It also sheds a little more light TnkrToad's history lesson.

Agree 100%, for maintainers 12+ hour days are the norm. Don't even ask for time away to go to the gym, CBPO (ahem... MPF), Finance, BX, Class VI, your kid being born, etc... Had my ass handed to me once by my flight chief for letting a dorm guy go to the Post Office prior to a 30+ day TDY to pick up a package that had been there over a month. Couldn't go during "normal" hours; had report to work a good two hours before PO opened, went home well after it's closed. Thank God for the flightline chow hall, such as it was; if it wasn't for that, NONE of dorm rats would have hot meals Mon-Fri.

Completely agree with you. Just like in business, it is cheaper to take care of your people all along the way than trying to bribe people to stay with you after the damage has been done. All I am saying is it would be much cheaper in the long run for the Air Force to work on retaining people (I.e. Fixing the problems) when they are at the five year point of your career than putting all its cards into the bonus being the deciding factor. It's like a long term girlfriend who has cheated and lied again and again saying I've changed take me back when you go to break up with her. I mean yeah the sex is sometimes pretty good but you can definitely get it other places without the drama. Boom drop the mic...

RUCKER 16-01 HH-60G x 2 UH-1N x 2 --- PK...

what's an autopilot?

Three years on and you are still very much missed, Rich. We raise a glass in your honor, brother!