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More sh-t about career development....you'd think our mission was to produce generals and compete jointly by Chang's take. Personally, I'd rather get some competent leadership who knows how to win fights vs make rank by getting "pushed through the career pipeline" Currently our leaders cannot: -Effectively manage personnel -Efficiently procure new weapons systems -Retain most valuable talent -Formulate a winning strategy in the Middle East -Understand the most used mission set in the past 20 years (CAS) But damn, they did a helluva job making rank.

Dear lord... I'm a rescue 60 pilot and the picture I have of myself in the "about us" section of my businesses website, is of me sitting jump in a 130 on a fam flight... Now I'm beginning to wonder if I've actually been scaring people off because they think I'm a nav.

All this talk about the bonus and why we serve and here I've been sitting in a waiting room for the past hour to get my wife a new ID card. Would 1,000 extra a month cure this? Would 5,000? I've been in 10 years and it always gets more painful. If I hear "my system is down" or "they just updated our system and lost all your information" again I'm going to go nuts. "Let's just give the pilots more money, that'll do the trick." One word, WRONG!

They scoff as a function of their own dissonance; confirmation bias. Vetter's post contained all of the essential elements: -Choice of whether or not he would help--no obligation to be a "Yes Man" -He chooses to live in base, substantially improving his QoL -He may choose to bid another base when he becomes more senior -He then may choose to relocate, or commute if if that is more advantageous -He was immediately rewarded for helping out -He may at some point trade some QoL for an earlier upgrade; seat, iron, or both -OR, he may get kicked to the curb at the next market correction or merger. Who the fvck knows Based on his posting history, he (like a lot of us) might trade a sizable chunk of the above for more time in a USAF tail, but not at the expense of being marginalized and commoditized on some spreadsheet

Complains today's leaders are more focused on the little things than the mission... Bitches about a guy in unauthorized patches.

Agreed, but there's no need to delete the thread. However, there is one to end it, which is what I am doing...

You'll need some work-up, but hopefully you'll be good to go after about 2 weeks DNIF.

"Nope." Never gets old...

Notified today...

Didn't you hear? The RPA job is intrinsically rewarding work! And according to a spreadsheet, the crews have an amazing QoL because they don't deploy as much.

Dude, I don't even have the minimum ATP hours. People feel the need to constantly remind me that "there are plenty of RPA opportunities on the civilian side!" and "it's the future of aviation!" I just don't want anything to do with these things. Get me outta here!!

I assume you don't need the helicopter pilot's take on low level...

So, I was off this past Saturday. Scheduling called me to ask if I could help them out with a DFW turn. I didn't have anything to do, so I took the trip. I made $2k to fly 6 hours...on top of my Reserve guarantee for the month. Plus, they gave me two more days off later this month. To those who decide to stay in...you are being underpaid for your services.

General Chang simply serves for love of country and service before self, so he doesn't need BAH. He just sleeps in his office. His lights are even powered by his sense of self-worth, so saves the government money there too.

Maybe you should separate. We thank you for your service.

Since I've had quite a few tonight and am bored...i'll be your huckleberry. Our Air Force is broken code-3 and is getting worse by the day. You're either a naive dipshit or a pathological liar on the level of Mrs. Clinton. Either way, you're doing our service a huge injustice. If many in our morally corrupt society wanted to join...they are more than welcome to. We actually are an all volunteer force even though it quickly escalates into indentured servitude on the rated side, which you are quick to take advantage of (15 year commitments right?). Many in society are welcome to join and yet they don't. They don't answer the call. They don't possess the selflessness and patriotic sense of duty. As the culture continues to erode...more won't. "Some members" are so sick and tired of the culture that clowns like you and this current administration are responsible for. JQP nailed it with his latest updated blog post regarding fighter pilot manning. Our Air Force is falling apart at the seams and you're blind as a bat for not seeing it. Shame on you and those around you for not fixing it when you had the opportunity and insight given to you by members of this board. I gave you advice a couple of years ago when I was on my very last deployment- it mimiced everything that you hear here. I took your advice though and thank you for it. My feet made the right vote. You're welcome for my service but that service wasn't for you. It was for the boys and girls who's daddy's came home because I was in some shit hole for the umpteenth time doing my duty. It was for those that still believe in this great country and Liberty. I voted with my feet for my personal reasons and am grateful every single day. Not only did I spend my first year out of AD making more money than you do (no matter what your rank is), I saw my family a lot more and focused on "real shit" that includes lots of mission oriented flying. Having a desire to spend even more time with my family and maybe eventually get back into owning a business, I decided to go fly for a major airline. Holy shit is the grass so much greener than the rotten brown shit you constantly urinate on while telling everyone that it's getting watered. People like you truly don't get it and think that the airline opportunity is WHY we left...it most certainly is not! Back when I was flying vipers, there was no amount of money that would've made me even utter the word "airline." It is however the reason WHY we no longer have to work for dumb shit mother f~ckers who erode the incredible service and culture that we were so proud to be apart of. I miss it, but it's gone. Sticking around won't make it come back. I now spend ample time writing recommendations for my military bros and am so happy to get words when they get hired. I encourage everyone that I know to get the f~ck out ASAP before retards like you institute stop-loss. Most heed my advice like I heeded yours. All are thankful once they reach the other side. Someone in this thread nailed it when they mentioned the ripple effects. Most of the <1% of us that sserve end up with family that follows in our footsteps. It's part of the pride that we took in our former culture. I had two boys that were ready to fly jets. One of them heads off to study Aero Engineering next year and our discussions have already concluded that he is best NOT going into the USAF. My other son figured this out for himself a few years prior when he cried himself to sleep because I had missed Christmas yet again during one of my 9 deployments. How do these numbers fit into you're spreadsheets? Your 1% is about to become .1%! You're f~cking high. Our AF will be on life support and the culture will be so bad you might regret ever joining after you do. Forget doing SAPR 4 times a year. Well make suicide prevention a quarterly requirement as well. You should be personally satisfied but you likely won't be and its getting worse by the day. Who cares about money...but NDAA is already trying to screw you yet again because you make too much. Professionally satisfied...I was but God knows that most aren't. I'd consider this doubtful. Bottom bottom bottom line... Chang, you're a bumbling idiot. That's the beer, not real emotion. It's frustrating that no matter how much people on this board inform you, you always know better. You look at our lives quantitatively as though we are numbers and green/ red bubbles. We look at our lives personally because they are. We will never see eye to eye. When we resort to looking at things quantitatively- we leave. The emotion, culture, and personal aspect are why we joined and why we would stay (or otherwise leave). You should go ahead and retire Chang. Thank you for your service.

^^Now that's a keeper...a wife, that buys you guns, that is...

looks like the chief group meeting is in full swing, patches and sleeves.

Except that the last time you were TDY to MacDill, the Spanish still owned Florida.

Stay on the left/VA side of that Virgina/DC line with that 30-rounder M2...just sayin. ATIS...wondering where his 30-rounders might be???

In this context, manning matters not. We don't need to send more people joint in order to compete for high-level joint positions. We need to send the top 10% to more joint assignments (and definitely not curtail the first assignment at the 22-month point). The CSAF also supports this line of thinking. The difficulty: the O-7 pole year is at 24 years ("in the zone" for O-7, if you will). This is the earliest of any service. In fact, a couple of years ago, we selected more O-7s in one class year at their 23-year point than 24-year selectees, although we are back to predominantly 24-years at the most recent board. Couple this with an already tight career developmental timeline that (typically) includes two O-6 commands and several years of the aforementioned schooling, and it suddenly gets very difficult to push our best through significant, important joint positions. I'm sure this facts-based post will harness double-digit thumbs-down responses. Doesn't make it any less true.