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Well, to make the experience less unpalatable, you could akways ask him who he thinks barrel rolls better: airline pilots or AF pilots (or maybe ex-AF airline pilots)?

I.... can't.... believe.... I'm....saying....this.... . . . . Hacker's right. Damn, I never thought I'd have to say that - it hurt more than expected.

You assume the new selection process will eliminate the described scenario. However they haven't laid out what the new process will look like, I think it will end up being the same.

Stan, go study your boldface

Duck, you're a tease. If you were a hooker...you'd starve. Bendy Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network Forums

To me, it sounds pretty similar, you just have to wait a few more years to find out if you're going to go. Senior raters have always played a huge role in selecting who goes to school.

True. And there is 0% income tax (TX) versus 8.82% (NY). Plus the difference in how much house you get for the money makes it a big difference in TX over NY

For accuracy, Texas has the 6th highest property taxes in the country. NJ is indeed #1, but Texas is higher than NY. (Results from light googling.) And honestly I wouldn't look at property tax rates exclusively when figuring out where to live $$ wise...Hawaii has the lowest property tax rate in the country but it's expensive as hell to live there. Then again Hawaii > Wichita Falls for probably 98.69% of people so to each his own...

Fact, 185th SOS, Will Rogers ANGB. Good dudes out there and hiring pilots & CSOs. PM if you might be interested.

OKC ANG has them

Anyone here into 3 gun? I'm looking at semi auto shotguns including the Beretta 1301 comp, Remington Versamax Competition, and FM SLP Competition. Anyone have experience with any of these? I've heard Remington's quality has been hit or miss lately.

Texas has some of the highest property taxes in the US. I would never want to live in Texas long-term. Mississippi gets a bad rap but it's actually pretty decent place. Flowood Mississippi north east of Jackson is really nice. Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network Forums

Did the GOP just slip an amendment into the FDA spending bill to remove suppresses from the NFA list? https://dailycaller.com/2017/07/13/pro-second-amendment-measure-passes-house-through-fda-funding-bill/

Insert Indiana Jones "Top Men" meme here...

Thanks M2. I'll just wait for the ground to dry a little. It's not worth risking ricochets.

This goes back to the Air Force showing us what it really values, while continuing to tell us that they are trying to fix the problem.

I'll reply here for the community knowledge. K11M3F, KC-135 IP. Passed over x2, involuntary separation. I want to confirm the whole no-continuation thing after the LtCol board snafu. Doubtless it was my active UIF that resulted in non-continuation (if true), though I was still surprised, since the PDSM for continuation only mentioned pending court-martial actions as deal-breakers, and I heard in the news the AF is short of pilots. I'm not 100% on how the invol sep pay works, but I think it's 100% base pay, which'll be about $73k. So that will obviously be immensely helpful. I also need to figure out if requesting an earlier involuntary separation date forfeits the severance pay. Feel free to throw any questions my way

Not promoted, and as far as I can tell, not being offered continuation. Sent from my Vitamix 450x Professional using Tapatalk

Dafuq you need ATIS for if you're already on the ILS? Seriously, all the shit dudes have said here rings true. The only thing I'll add is that one's success in making the transition if you choose that path in the future isn't a given. It takes some work and a simple but crucial understanding that you're entering a completely different environment. Harder? Hell no, not by a country mile. Apply yourself maybe half as much as you did to get through UPT and you'll be fine. But thinking that being a SH Viper, Hornet, Raptor, -17, whatever guy is going to carry you through on its own is a mistake. Your mil status is also not a guaranteed job offer. The airlines don't start beating your door down when they find out you're available though, at the current hiring rate it may seem like that for some guys. Expect to put in some time prepping for interviews and realize you're breaking very new ground. There's lots of gouge from the bros out their and several well run companies that'll relieve you of a small, but worthwhile investment to make sure you're ready to sell yourself when the time comes. It's a multi-million dollar career that many mil guys have missed out on because they decided to wing it and figured WIC, a 1000 hours of IP time in the Viper or some other feather in their cap was going to make it a breeze. Not hard.....just different......way different. Oh and while I gocha here......The shit some mil guys do and say (the famous 5% we've all met) when they finally start their new careers would make you cringe. The tools who have come before you leave a lasting legacy. When you hear the stereotypes assigned to us all thanks to those clowns, you'll maybe have a slightly understanding of what it's been like being an Eagle driver since that fateful day at Kadena 30+ years ago . So, try to play nice with the civilians. Taking every opportunity to attempt to impress them with combat stories or "there I was" BS, making them feel inferior in general or lecturing them on how things were back in your old life isn't generally the best option. There will be plenty of bros in the other seat to swap stories with but not always. Also, accepting that airline X is paying your a shit-ton of money to fly their jet the way they want you to and not how you think it should be flown is also extremely helpful. Adjust accordingly and be one of the 95%. Good luck with whatever path you choose.

I had an OG/CC tell me he deletes everything once a week, even the unread emails, if it was important, they would call.

I'm sorry but that is such fcking bull shit. What a complete and idiotic waste of time and I won't do it. But then again I'm not on the "path" to greatness

Us airline guys will just have to settle for the "puppet" and "bus driver" pay/schedule versus the T-6 triple-turns your Flt/CC and IP's are doing in the July heat. We all make decisions and we have to be ready to face the consequences. Now, back to boat shopping...

This is not about a dick measuring contest. My beef is that the porch is sending inexperienced wingmen to the Eielson aggressors because they supposedly have no choice. Worse still, these wingmen are coming off only one year in Korea. A remote assignment they went to with the PROMISE of a follow on regular tour. Going to the aggressors essentially freezes their development as fighter pilots. It's not a problem to go as a senior 4FL or an IP, but it is a death blow to a young fighter pilot's development. A terrible breech of trust. So AFPC breaks that promise and sends them to the 18AGRS. Fine...we "have no choice" and have a problem absorbing all the wingmen in the CAF. Needs of the Air Force and all that. Yes sir, service before self...got it. Then, THE VERY SAME WEEK these guys are learning about the breaking of the promise, these wingmen are hearing about this crossflow. I'd be livid. Worse still, if it were me, my mind about staying one day past my commitment would be made up. No fvcking way. How many other young wingmen are watching??? AFPC's justification, btw, is some bullshit about a net gain of fighter pilots via this crossflow. Of course, they're not factoring the 36 CAF wingmen that just watched this happen. YGBSM. Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network Forums

I've found "Thank you for your support" works well.

Come fly with us...we'll even let your drive the car. Tilted Media

I can't see the policy change for school selection not blowing up in the Air Force's face. It's just too big of a change in the rules of the game to implement so hastily, and only causes more uncertainty...