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It’s a novelty sure, but let’s get at the root cause-why is a bump stock a thing? It’s because the Hughes amendment stopped registration of new machine guns. If I could spend $10 on different parts and $200 on a tax stamp to register a machine gun as an NFA item then the bump stock wouldn’t have been invented and every gun capable of this kind of firing rate would be registered within the NFA construct. As it is, gun control (Hughes amendment) artificially limited supply so prices for legal full auto are through the roof. So someone invents the bump stock which the ATF said was legal! Let’s stop pretending that more regulation will achieve the desired effects

...because if we just sacrifice "bump stocks" at the altar of gun control, that'll be it and they'll never be back for more, right?

There are not two classes of citizens in the United States. We are all equal...and all worthy of the same rights, privileges, and restrictions under the law. Police are not "super-citizens".

You missed the point, a few pages ago I linked an article showing a country where guns are severely restricted (I'm being generous) and they are looking into banning knives, now its acid. In effect, I'm saying banning anything will not stop this behavior. I think your point is the gun makes the attack more massive, and while correct, Timothy McVeigh, any 9/11 attacker and so on might disagree with you. I'd argue cars are more dangerous. And a seriously restrictive gun law will not be passed, at least in the next few decades, not even worth arguing about.

A-I lost all of my firearms in a tragic boating incident in the Gulf of Mexico. B-if your sworn to support and defend the constitution, you should have a really hard time with a blanket ban and/ or confiscation .... unless there are changes to the constitution.

Everything old is new again

Hmmm...so lets do some math. Theres a whole squadron at HMN with jets and few if any IPs, so they're still ramping up. The leading edge of the production surge is going on a year in their ops units, pushing out the experience before them. And last but not least, if only there were somewhere to park IFF grads for two to three years while the rest of the pipeline gets up to speed. If only... Haha, nevermind, lets shut off IFF drops.

This is nothing new either which is frustrating seeing young guys like yourself get to experience what I got to go through after the Oprah giveaways in the early 2000’s. Just when you think they learn something they prove just how stupid they are. We sent way too many kids to fighters that had no business being there when I was a UPT IP and now there will be good deserving guys be the unfortunate victim to AF piss-poor planning. Yeah, it’s not about “what you want” and “service before self” applies, but what a way to ensure good guys don’t stick around, giving them this experiences early in their careers. Sucks man. Best of luck going into drop though!

I enjoy the irony of putting "Quiet Professional" on there.

1 fighter per drop? Lol. Get fucked big blue. Get fucked. But please bitch more about your fighter pilot shortage

That's the beautiful thing about being a free man living in a liberal democracy: it isn't about "need". The whole point is that free citizens are allowed to pursue whatever makes them happy (within the limitations of not violating the rights of others) without having to garner the approval or permission or validation of any other person or organization. "Because I want to" is all the "need" anyone requires.

Ahhh, reading comprehension fail on my part. Thought you were referring to gun manufacturers being held liable. Disregard all after...

In general they've come a long ways in the last 5 years. A lot of the old E6 guys are gone and there's a lot more Hornet influence in the community. The HVAA mindset is nearing death.

Police are generally a cross section of society. Some are gun nuts, some aren’t. Some are downright anti-gun.

Eh, if the OG sent out the email it would have been more appropriate to go through them for info and not proceed direct to the functional. having said that, I don't think it's worth worrying about. Just tell your boss you were innocently looking for info and didn't intend to cut out the chain of command.. next time you'll do it right. I think the AF culture of not being able to talk to the functionals (typically) is a huge disservice. I have a number of Army buds across the spectrum of MOS's. When I told them I never had a direct line to my functional until very recently, they were blown away.. even the infantry guys say as a Lt you could email/call the assignment guy and discuss available jobs. I believe the current crop of functionals at AFPC are making a HUGE effort to open lines of communication with their crew force. The C17 guy has weekly DCO sessions for anyone who wants to join. I've inquired a few times about assignments and he had no problem giving me his thoughts. Hopefully the trend will continue - AFPC shouldn't operate behind a shroud of secrecy when they're controlling some of the biggest changes in our lives.

That case is a wonderful example of why the Supreme Court should not be treated as some sort of "legislature of last resort," because they generally lack technical knowledge and don't have the power to consider testimony by experts (because, theoretically they're an appellate court). In Miller, the Court decided it was OK to ban short-barreled shotguns, because they had no military use, despite the War Department issuing 40,000 of them just two decades prior for trench fighting. People who want gun bans need to start a movement to repeal the Second Amendment, not see it invalidated in court. But that would be horrifically unpopular, so they try to backdoor it through training requirements, "genuine need," lawsuits against gun manufacturers, etc.

Every firearm ever invented is a "weapon meant for the battlefield". "Grandpa's hunting rifle" was a front-line infantry weapon less than 100 years ago used by doughboys to liberate Europe. This is a loosey-goosey emotional argument, not a logical one.

I disagree. On the long look of human history, violence, war, and untimely death is WAY DOWN. We’re living in a golden age of peace and prosperity.

Regarding the discussion about "answers", remember to play chess and not checkers. The RKBA is a philosophical argument, not a policy argument. Gun control folks want to argue policy, and want to do it with absolutely no proof of efficacy of any of it. So, first, make sure you understand the philosophical foundation of why the right to keep and bear arms exists, and why it is protected in the Bill of Rights. Understand that it is rooted in the right to life, and the logical derivation of the right to self defense to protect life and property under assault. Understand further what the philosophical purpose of government is. Philosophy determines the purpose of government, and in a free liberal democracy the purpose of government is to protect individual rights to life, liberty and property. Remember that people have rights and governments have powers that are granted to them by the people. It isn't the government's purpose to take care of people like a parent. Remember that living in a free society means that individuals are free to think, do, say, and possess whatever they please so long as it does not infringe on the natural, constitutional, or derived civil rights of other humans. Again, it isn't the purpose of government to tell us what we can and cannot do outside their basic charter.

What's with so many people willing to give something -- anything -- up? This is the strongest legislative position the 2A has been in for decades. I'm not voting to give *anything* up.

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No bro, if you’re just having coffee and waiting for brief time to start. Am I not allowed to look at mission slides before official brief time? some of you guys are so official it’s amazing anything gets done.