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That is an animated gif not a meme you n00b.

Of course you did.

Out of curiosity, I called the AFPC 800 number and asked them about the program. After the 18 minute hold time, the person that answered had no clue what I was talking about, and thought I was referring to the program to bring back 25 officers. I was transferred to a rated recall office somewhere else in the building, but the SME was gone already (1532L in San Antonio).

No government bureaucracy wishes to downsize in order to streamline. It goes against the very nature of the bureaucracy.

Sounds like an ideal USAF Officer/Pilot to me. Exactly what they are looking for. 0% chance she bails for the airlines.

You are way too old to be that good with memes.

I know the cutoff is 30 but does anyone have any experience or knowledge of NGB and how strict or not they are about pushing an age waiver through? The problem would not be with the unit I’m just wondering about NGB approval. About me... Turning 29 in 2 weeks. Will have PRK done in a month so I understand I have a year out to wait for my flight physical. Will be 30 during AMS & IFT

See you there!

Most people here know TAMI-21 as a sending young fighter wingman to RPA's, but another part of TAMI-21 was converting a lot of NAF and MAJCOM staff jobs from CGO/FGO billets to SNCO billets. It didn't completely phase out the staff job, but it did alleviate some constrained rated officer manpower in staff jobs.

I'm in a similar position, my job should not exist and certainly not be filled by a rated officer. I successfully lobbied to leave early and let the position go unfilled which was difficult but not impossible. In lieu of an audit, there should be a mechanism to ID useless staff jobs. But there isn't, so if you can leave, you should. This organization doesn't want to be fixed.

Non-fighter, I'm sure.

Here's what I think just went down. AF: "We have this massive problem! We can't fix it!" Mattis: "Of course you can, it's called leadership. Get some." AF: "But it's a bigger problem than that! <insert AF talking points b.s.>" Mattis/Trump: "Okay, if it's such a critical problem, here's a tool that can fix it overnight. Recall 1,000 pilots, voluntary or not." AF: "But we can't do that!" Mattis/Trump: "Then I guess it's not such a big f**king problem then. STFU and do your jobs."

Girl tried that after she decided RPAs weren’t for her, I think there is more back story/motive that I really don’t care to remember, but the story ends with the AF saying ok sweet, here’s your Global Hawk, no killing there, here’s your sweet PCS to the frozen tundra, here’s a waiver making you non deployble. Thanks for your next 6 years of service.

Conscientious objection? "Although I've recently enjoyed killing people and/or supporting those who do, I've had a serious change of heart and feel that the use of military force/powerpoint is wrong in any way, shape, or form". You're welcome.

USAF didn't even know this policy was going to drop. It was SECDEF acting alone.

You sir, lose the internet today.

Phase one, voluntary recalls. Phase two, stop loss. Phase three, involuntary recalls. This move makes phase one look more thoroughly applied and paves the way for an inevitable phase two.

MV-22 is NOT a CV-22, not even close.

That's pretty funny there. What does he think he's got ALPA USAF backing him up?

Just had this very discussion with the other FO yesterday, coming back from a particularly awesome European layover. Former 11F (O-4/WIC type), now a 4 year WB FO, soon to be NB CA. Here were his demands for a staff gig. - 130k/yr bonus (difference in his expected NB CA pay and O-4 pay) that increases 5k for every year he's back on AD. - Choice of his assignment/location - No deployments or involuntary TDYs - 8 hour work days - Auto approval of all leave submissions (up to the yearly limit) - No OPRs - No work at home (email and blackberry stay in the office) - No SARC training/CBTs/ORIs/MICT/PT test (although passing one clearly isn't a problem for this guy) - Reimbursement for a property management company to take care of his house while he is gone - A clause that states anytime finance denies any of his moving expenses/damaged goods, he can void the contract - DLA to and from his assignment, even the PCS to the PLEAD when he separates again - If he falls short of his 20, then ALL time counts toward early retirement credit for his part timer retirement He was willing to knock off a FEW of these items if you let him just be a line IP with no additional duties.

Guys remember that Air Force vs Airlines meeting in May? We never knew what the results were, but good news, here's the manuscript, swear to god, a buddy gave it to me, this is VERBATIM (maybe a few spelling errors). Fingers: "Lets find a way to increase the ATP requirements so you stop stealing my pilots, I think we can work together on this. I force my pilots to stay because they have nowhere to go, and you don't get military pilots anymore. It's a win win." American Airlines: "I'm losing 3000 pilots in 4 years, I'm going to offer your pilots double pay, a better retirement, and no SAPR briefings" Delta: "Pound sand. Change USSERA rules and stop letting your Guard guys screw us over and maybe, maybe we'll talk. Also we have 17% 401k AUTOMATIC contribution vs your Blended Retirement System." United: "So you want us to give up the solution to our problems, and what do we get back. An IOU?" Southwest: "Bags check free!" Fingers:"It's going to be like that. Okay. I got something for you guys. We'll have this talk again in 6-9 months." ------- 2 Weeks later Fingers meets with Trump . . .

I could give a rats fucking ass what some douche in A1 says...take your intent and use it to choke yourself. The only “fact” we know at this point is what is written in the order and that order delegates authority to SECSEF and SECAF to INVOLUNTARILY recall up to 1,000 pilots. Our intent...give me a fucking break...how many times have they lied already?

In other news; AA, Delta and United will hire 1k more pilots in the next year

Reference the linked thread below. Going forward, please use the search feature to look for existing threads that cover your topic before creating a new one. It's one of the business rules that keeps this forum useful by ensuring good information is consolidated instead of getting lost in a thousand separate threads. To your questions, I'm not an ABM but I used to read maps to people that drove them around (i.e. AWACS nav) before I switched airframes... Stressful yes, but so are all rated jobs. Becoming a good ABM is probably more stressful than some rated jobs because it requires you to learn the technical details of your own platform (AWACS/JSTARS/CRC), the art and science of controlling (e.g. prioritizing comm based on what's happening, the comm plan for your fight, whether datalinks are working, etc), and the TTPs of our CAF fighters (how you do business changes significantly based on the fighters you're controlling, their sensors, their datalinks, and the kinematics of their missiles... and ditto for the bad guys' characteristics). If you take the slot, embrace that stress, take it as a challenge to master the knowledge/skills, and be proud you get paid to do something most people in the Air Force don't have the mental capacity for. Not a lot of civilian careers utilizing their training/skillset? Not to the same degree as pilots... You're not going to go be an ABM for Delta... But lots of former ABMs go into industry jobs (think program and project management or technical writing for Boeing and other contractors that support weapon systems with ABMs), contract instruction (e.g. those that support academic/sim training at Tyndall, Tinker, as well as companies that teach CRM), civil service (AF/DoD civilian), and management jobs in the corporate world that utilize the leadership/management skills all AF officers should theoretically be learning/using. Not to mention, within the Air Force a lot of ABMs wind up working in air defense roles, as Air Liaison Officers (ALOs), and as datalink managers, all of which open other doors. ABMs get deployed a lot? It was true in my day, probably more true now. Everybody in the Air Force deploys a lot. In the rated world, those that don't "deploy" a lot are probably either on the road more than those that do (e.g. AMC bubbas) or wish they could deploy (e.g. RPA drivers). Big picture: Don't say "No" to any rated job. If you want to be a pilot, try to work your way onto the alternate list for pilot/RPA/CSO. Take the best thing you can get out of your commissioning source. Then excel at your assigned job. Then as soon as you are eligible (2 years into your career field), apply for the active duty UFT board (I know several ABMs that became pilots). But I would imagine most people on this forum would agree, any rated job is better than every non-rated job.