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We don't call it weaponized Autism for nothing. Sure. Having walked the halls of Ops Sq's the culture is in the air. The expectation is worn on your patches on the pajamas all us non-air-breathing-operators crave. Everyone knows that the aircrew have spent X years training, flying, fighting. You guys have Sq bars, you're segregated from the rest of the AF by sheer pinnacle of your achievement. As I think you should be, you've earned it. I don't have that in a normal Comm Sq. I've got Airmen who never touched a computer besides MS Office for school that are working the core servers, all the way up to the guy who failed a credit short of a CS degree because he almost went pro in Fortnite. I've got officers who are geology/english majors who got Cyber because "needs of the Air Force." This is on par with the bros who signed up for real flying and got RPA's...but they have to "lead" Amn that are about the same age. How many officers in a Ops sq you know that can't get to work on time? I've had to separate 3 Amn for that. I had to deal with 4 sexual assault cases at the same time, when those finally wrapped up 3 pissed hot. So, the 17D that @HarleyQuinn mentions comes off as a douche from that single statement. I don't agree with ordering it...but it's nice to not get blindsided by some idiot failing at the last minute and having to report it to a douche Wing CC who thinks PT's the pinnacle of leadership. Which is where we been for about a decade. 1 story to kinda illustrate - Airman shithead was late to duty on a Saturday. Boss found him asleep in his car...suspicion of drinking. On Monday we (Super and I) pull him in for a conversation. I order him to stay silent (not self-incriminate), and tell him our suspicions and run him through the consequences. I tell him about the options to driving while intoxicated, and ask him to be a professional, he's a needed team member, etc. I release him to his supervisor and superintendent. 2 weeks later DUI.

There’s enough hate to throw at the Air Force without throwing it at each other. Y’all buy some whiskey tonight and just chills.

Hey folks, Big news today. The AF has officially adopted a new (more lenient) color vision policy that is more in line with the Army and Navy. Waivers are now available for ALL flying classes, including pilot applicants, as long as your CCT score is at least 55 with each eye on all cone types (i.e. red, green and blue letters). If you have recently been disqualified for color vision and you think you meet the waiver criteria, PM me and we'll see if we can get a waiver put in on your behalf. This will certainly be no problem for anyone recently DQ'd at Wright-Patt. If it was at a different location, there may be a little more legwork, but it should be do-able. If you are not sure whether you meet the waiver criteria, I'm happy to look into your physical and let you know.

Don't worry Duck. He forgot Special Ops Fighter Pilot. That takes even higherer aptitude.

17D....bro all I can muster up is keep up the good fight. You have my respect sir!

It was a bad deal to start with. Not to mention the second most egregious example by the previous Administration to do an end run around the founding contract of our system of government - the US Constitution. Any formal agreement (treaty) between the US and any other country that binds us to any action or behavior isn't valid until it is presented to and ratified by the Senate. This J-POS as well as the even worse Paris Climate Accord were done via Obama's infamous "phone and pen." And just as easily undone (except for DACA for some reason espoused by one lower court judge) by the next Administration. If it were such a good deal for the US, then why didn't Obama present it to the Senate? Because he knew he couldn't get it through, so he simply ignored them. And they let him. They voluntarily abrogated one of their basic responsibilities. Which disgusts me even more than the J-POS did.

Those are some fantastic drops!

Y'all are bringing up old shit like you're a perfect aviator. Glass houses with stones or something like that.

One of the best war movies I've seen, but it will piss you off politically.

the longer i've done this the more i've appreciated the roll that everyone plays. heavies hard sts? no. at least not most of their flying, but they're needed and important. and that's not some "everyone gets a trophy" bs that's the honest truth. no one operates in combat in a bubble. shit even F22 dudes are getting threat calls from the lowly heavy AWACS. night 0 shit? yeah that might be a little different...for a few nights...but even that's gonna be a whole lotta teamwork anyway not sure what the point of this post is gotta go back to the "emirates" thread for the juicy gossip c ya!

I have $600K through AAFMAA for around $25 per month. I have no plans to drop it after I separate even if I can get a good rate at the airline.

Or maybe the senate ignored him because it was a terrible idea and he knew it wouldn’t pass. Either way, Pres T said he would do it, nobody should be surprised.

Yeah, Mr Plug has a point. Plus we all know the mil guys are better. 😁

Fwiw I had an AF 3 star try to help me with an AD to AD transfer several years ago when I was about to get out of the army. He emailed his buddy who commanded AETC, as well as some of his other 4 star buddies searching for an age/commissioned service waiver for UPT, and it ended up being a dead end, even with high ranking people trying to help me. The shortage wasn’t a thing though, so maybe it’s different now. But you’re probably a lot better off trying to go ANG/reserve regardless, and I’m glad that’s how it ended up working out for me. I’ll be 35 starting UPT with over 5 years time in grade as an O3.

Apparently so does Trump: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/08/world/middleeast/trump-iran-nuclear-deal.html Amazing how NYT says the Iran Deal was "the signature foreign policy achievement of his predecessor, Barack Obama"... Obama's signature foreign policy achievement was a "deal" that Iran never signed... speaks volumes

Allah always decides

Definitely was rough for some of the 38 bros..some real solid dudes too

Yeah I'm commissioned/ an O3, so I'm interpreting what you're saying as it hinders my chances, since it's a lateral career move at best and not an upward one. Plus I've been told the AF wants young 2LTs, not old CPTs. I was at Rucker during the '14 to '16 timeframe.

Heads up everyone. I have a buddy in the PRANG setting up a foundation to help. The Rican 68 Foundation. More to follow in a few days. Prayers to the families.

Damn you Hopeful. Damn you.

Phew! Glad those two things were entirely separate. I thought we might be dealing with an R. Kelly-type situation here...

KEND T-1’s: MC-130H, Hurlburt C-21, Scott. KC-135, Fairchild C-130J, Dyess 2x C-130J, CA ANG C-17, Charleston (reserve) 2x C-17, Charleston C-17, Hickam KC-10, McGuire KC-135, Macdill KC-10, Travis C-130J, Yokota C-17, McChord C-130H, NV ANG

The 17D in question was prior enlisted like myself and we became buds in AFROTC. I'm proud of him because he will make Lt Col. But after reading his PRF, I was like who the hell wins FGO and CGO of the year 4 damn times? This is one reason why flyers are not being promoted. Padding the old awards. I would assume flyers like myself would have more flying medals to offset any awards. The promotion board typically gets it right from what I hear so it's cool. My CC and I look for officers who constantly submit themselves for awards. We shred packages for people who don't deserve an award period. I advise my CC to give these selfish individuals feedback and he sure as hell does. But there is a thin line too. Some guys are trying to take care of themselves because who else is going to take care of you if you have been boned by big blue before? 2 weeks later and a DUI? Bruh...I reached into an airmans heart after his second speeding ticket on his motorcycle. I had him in tears. I have only had to do that once in 17 years. I know I saved his life because he was on the need for speed death trap.

Figures. Det 6 has some public page briefings. Maybe there's something in there that will help. https://www.arpc.afrc.af.mil/HQRIO/Detachments/Detachment-6/ Scroll down to "RESOURCES" and open the "Force Development Briefings" menu. They've done a couple on Officer Promotions and they have slides called "How to Get Yourself Promoted."

CP was a recent student of mine at CBM. Really solid dude, and a disproportionate loss to the flying community.

Who gives a f*ck about Emirates. I want to hear about FEB’s and Court Martials!!!

Fock me, this thread just got spicy.

I encourage you to read everyone post in this forum. I have recently completed my FC1 at WP AFB. I landed in Dayton on Sunday afternoon. I rented a car( very very useful if you can afford it, my unit would only approve taxi fare reimbursement). I drove from Dayton International, about 25 mins to WP AFB area a to the Wright Patterson Inns. If you have a military Id, you will go thru gate and check in. If you’re guard or reserve they will ask you to pay it with a credit or debit card. I was booked from Monday thru Friday. On Monday, i showed up to the USAFSAM building 840 at WP AFB area B. If you google “building 840 parking lot wright patterson it will take you close to the actual parking lot. Go ahead and park and enter the building on the north entrance. Immediately after you enter, there is a hallway. Make a right on hallway and go to room W100. ( that’s what was instructed). A technician then briefs you on what to expect and hands over a folder with your info. In the front of folder there is a list of tests. Every time a tech completes a test, they will initial it. Day one, they did an EKG( fasting required min 4 hours), checked my blood pressure, dental exam, some eye exams (amsler, red lens, pressure test, color, etc) they also took dental x-rays, optometry check up, hearing test, medical history interview. We went to lunch, then came back to a 4 hour psych assessment. There were like 5 sections but each came with a break in between. Next day, I started at the area a hospital across from Wright Patterson inns reception. You must fast like 12 hours. They has us do a urine test, blood draw (9 biles). Then, they had us do a chest x-ray. Then back to area b building 840. There were additional eye tests, dilate pupils, more eye tests. They did the body measurements and weight. You get to sit in a chair without shoes or socks. It simulates the T6 seat. They measure your sitting height, arm length, leg length. Takes like 5 mins. Once you’re done, you get to see a flight doc who confirms with you whether any new stuff from MEPS to this exam. We were then told to hang in until next day by 9 am. The main tech called us to let us know we were good or if she needed us to retest. Luckily for me, i was able to be released same day and i took a flight home. Now just waiting till i hear from the NGB to get my TFOT Dates and hope for UPT info too. Tip: Definitely make time to check the AF museum. Worth every second of your time. It’s free and they do close at 5 pm. Another thing. Attitude is, in my opinion, the biggest thing to be conscious of. These technicians and doctors are there to hep you. Do not feel intimidated by them at all. These are people and love to talk. if you have a good attitude, and may assist you with completing the tests or give you an idea if you have an issue and whether is waiver able or not. Overall, we had one guy dq for some issue with his eye, but he will be able to get waiver and fly for the US air force. The optometrist was very frank with him and initiated all waiver info. We also had an ROTC guy who thought couldn't go for manned aircraft due to his eye sight issues and was set for RPA. However WP people told him his condition was waiverable and now will pursue a manned airframe spot instead of RPA. Also, for guard and reserve, they won't have any lunch purchased for you. You will either buy something on the cafeteria (Starbucks) on the second floor of building 840 at WPAFB area B. This is one of the reasons it is good to have a car (rental) because you can go off site and pick up lunch. All in all a very good experience. Good luck to you all.

Maybe it's just the times in which we live, but is anyone else bothered about the posting/airing of accident footage before the next of kin notification and initial investigation process can take place? Prayers and well wishes to the Buccaneers, their families, and anyone else who straps in and puts it on the line.

I could not disagree more.

Lol at the gatekeeper mentality here. I don't have a dog in this fight, but if it's important to the Air Force to have dudes cross flow from certain year groups, just start them in phase 3 of UPT. Proficiency advance from there as necessary. You can't pretend like only the "chosen few" with "the right stuff" in T-6's come track select time have a hope at making it. I know nobody is saying that exactly, but that's how it comes across to me as I've been lurking on these boards the past few years. 4 years after UPT as a C-17 or C-130 guy I don't see how it matters if you flew 38's in the past or not. We all know getting one in the first place is 50% skill, 50% luck, and 50% timing. I think just about every Saudi who has ever graduated UPT is proof that anyone can be taught to fly a fighter. It's just a matter of how long he syllabus should be for cross flow guys. Not that it matters because you all wish you were AFSOC anyways.

He sure did Mr. Lose your wing in a FEB by flying into a severe thunderstorm former C-17 guy.