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I don’t know about you people, but wearing a bag is one of the few things (other than flying), that I love about my job. I’m simply not interested in wearing OCPs or any other wannabe army uniform. I’m probably an elitist, and that’s totally fine. But I don’t want to look the same as a finance officer. No thanks AF, I’ll keep the bag. I like being a zipper-suited sun god.

Ok douchebag, I’m not trying to be cool. I entered this AF in the late 90s and by “operator” I meant pilot or operations vice pencil pusher. Punch yourself.

#bringbackourblackboots

Bashi, what’s going on in your life man? You’ve been a negative Nancy for a while man.

How's life over there in the pilot group? Because at my wing, we have an Operations Group.

I can apply for retirement this Christmas. I ordered name tapes yesterday, and tried a set on for purchase on Monday. I know you pajama wearers don't care, but all the rest of the folk I've personally talked to are super hyped. I can't frigging wait to get out of this gray abortion of a uniform. It never fit right, wore right and the shoes were starting to get them pressed and cleaned. I went through OTS Mar-Jun in the old heavy weight ABU's and hated life for how rough they were to do anything in. OCPs seem to fit the same as BDU's, which is fantastic. Plus...PATCHES MOTHER FUCKERS! Finally some unit pride and options for morale/friday patches.

I don’t plan to take part in this musical chairs uniform game. My unworn ABUs will remain hanging in a dark corner of the closet. The OCP can stay on the shelf at the BX. And I’ll keep wearing my 1 piece flight suit to work until I retire

*Calculus Spelling should be a concern for your 5 year old. 😉

Duffel Blog from the top rope.

OCP is cool....flying in civilian clothes is cooler. holler

JTFC. Who cares. In reality 90% of the USAF should wear nonner-blues as they make the arduous trip between the coffee maker and their computer. Flight suits for flyers, OCP for SF and if anything a special utility uniform for mx and people who actually do some f-ing work with their hands. The USAF needs to worry about “utility” for a uniform the same way my 5 year old needs to worry about calculous. How many pockets do you need to check email?

I think it’s funny Bashi talks like a 12 year old playing Call is Duty whilst drunk.

I thought TriCare stopped paying for those?

When talking about command pushes, is there a massive difference between saying “ready for command now” in the first half of the push, versus “Sq/CC next” in the second half?

KAIA? HKIA maybe? Good grub at the Turkish chow hall. The US is all right. Internet free to 10 GB a week and yes it is FaceTime friendly. They did shut down the morale drive because the new comm major said it’s illegal. Bathrooms at communal and right now everyone O-5 and below have a roommate except CCs. Right now 2 to a room about 8x20 and they are trying to figure out how to get three from what I hear. I believe all the dorms are hardened facilities as well. Never been to the main gym I do know they have an out door CrossFit area and on the FOB there is a gym right next to the current ops area. Daily life seems interesting, winters are cold and shitty with the burning of trash and other stuff for heat.

CH are you sure? I thought his board was later this year after his change of command. Duck, no numbered AF in AFSOC.

So true. I'm off to start my shift in a polo shirt and cargo pants in half an hour and I couldn't be happier.

Sure, but how many sitting wing commanders have taken action on this? That’s the point.

Cool story Hansel. The Marines copyrighted their camoflauge pattern and would not let anybody but USN personnel assigned to the Marines wear it. The Army’s tried to adopt it but the Marines said no so they went with the UCP abortion. The Marines even prevented any Navy personnel that wasn’t NSW from using the desert AOR 2 because of it’s similarity to MARPAT. The ABU color pallete was chosen in part to be comparable with the UCP OCIE/PPE. Also people haven't been defending a base in an actual combat zone in ABUs since 2012

240. I'm not sure who the genius is that thinks they can just snatch a 240 out of the armory and get away with it but I commend their audaciousness.

palenske is a true fucking bawse. dude is the absolute truth.

All nine made it home today...

If you had been paying attention, you would understand that Bashi would have preferred the installer commit ritual seppuku as a demonstration of gratitude for your service. You would then pay full price, but still use a dial-up modem. This way everyone bleeds for Lady Liberty!

Welcome to AFGSC, where not a single WG/CC is in charge of a base that houses the MDS they grew up in. Both B-52 WG/CCs are B-1 guys by trade, both B-1 WG/CCs are B-52 guys.

Haha! Any one of the 10 or so dudes from Dyess who bailed/retired to the airlines this past year.

No, he was a prick who threatens his Squadron Commanders and DOs, threatened to cancel flying lines if people didn’t show up to his gay morale parade, probably sets a record for kicking back OPRs and award packages, cares more about looking green on mobility slides than actual mission effectiveness. He absolutely created a toxic environment at Dyess that anyone here can vouche for. He completely deserves to be fired and I for one am happy and hopeful that senior leadership is watching and trying to make positive change. Maybe other commanders will now be put on notice and realize that if they don’t effectively lead and foster morale they’ll be canned as well.

“What I want to fix your attention on is the vast, overall movement towards the discrediting, and finally the elimination, of every kind of human excellence – moral, cultural, social, or intellectual. And is it not pretty to notice how “democracy” (in the incantatory sense) is now doing for us the work that was once done by the most ancient Dictatorships, and by the same methods? You remember how one of the Greek Dictators (they called them “tyrants” then) sent an envoy to another Dictator to ask his advice about the principles of government. The second Dictator led the envoy into a field of grain, and there he snicked off with his cane the top of every stalk that rose an inch or so above the general level. The moral was plain. Allow no preeminence among your subjects. Let no man live who is wiser or better or more famous or even handsomer than the mass.” - C.S. Lewis, Screwtape proposes a toast P.S. This is a thread about a silly uniform, but I’d say the moral shines through regardless.

you can google all that (exact) info pretty easily...base O-1 pay, local BAH, flight pay

There’s been a slow and steady narrative in the AF that one’s worth as an “Airman” is not measured by their proximity to the flight line. I think common looking uniforms for both flight and ground duties are, in management’s eyes, a step further in that direction. I’ll be surprised if the green one piece bag stays, and I doubt they would authorize the green two piece above for concern over making flyers too “distinctive” and potentially triggering a nonner shoe clerk.

QFT. I had a ton of O-6s dumbfounded why my record wasn’t promotable to O-5. But there is something to be said about not giving a flying about what my OPR says these days as a 2x passed over dude. The funny thing about the whole deal? I’ve impacted more pilots than pretty much most O-5 Sq/CCs and O-6 OG/CCs or Wg/CCs...and I’ll still wind up flying for some airline just like they will.

This is best understood in the context that the 75% promote rate overall really breaks down to DP = 99% promote and P = 50% promote. If you are a P then you have a little less than a 50/50 shot at promotion. In the P category it really is hard to understand why one gets passed over while another gets promoted. I was a “super P” at the Wing level and the Wing Exec who had a straight P was passed over. Our Wing had 4 eligible. Two DPs promoted. Two Ps were 50/50. We had similar records. Hard to distinguish between our records. It’s a mystery. Of course, he’s flying for Delta now so it’s debateable that he’s the one who lost out.

I'm an ANG technician. GS-13. $114,000 as tech plus 28,000 tech bonus, plus 24,000 DSG, plus 12,000 sitting alert. No commitment, no 365's, no 179's. Come home every night. Don't sign the bonus, go Guard.

I stayed. I don’t like Kool Aid. I have a family.

We don't call it weaponized Autism for nothing. Sure. Having walked the halls of Ops Sq's the culture is in the air. The expectation is worn on your patches on the pajamas all us non-air-breathing-operators crave. Everyone knows that the aircrew have spent X years training, flying, fighting. You guys have Sq bars, you're segregated from the rest of the AF by sheer pinnacle of your achievement. As I think you should be, you've earned it. I don't have that in a normal Comm Sq. I've got Airmen who never touched a computer besides MS Office for school that are working the core servers, all the way up to the guy who failed a credit short of a CS degree because he almost went pro in Fortnite. I've got officers who are geology/english majors who got Cyber because "needs of the Air Force." This is on par with the bros who signed up for real flying and got RPA's...but they have to "lead" Amn that are about the same age. How many officers in a Ops sq you know that can't get to work on time? I've had to separate 3 Amn for that. I had to deal with 4 sexual assault cases at the same time, when those finally wrapped up 3 pissed hot. So, the 17D that @HarleyQuinn mentions comes off as a douche from that single statement. I don't agree with ordering it...but it's nice to not get blindsided by some idiot failing at the last minute and having to report it to a douche Wing CC who thinks PT's the pinnacle of leadership. Which is where we been for about a decade. 1 story to kinda illustrate - Airman shithead was late to duty on a Saturday. Boss found him asleep in his car...suspicion of drinking. On Monday we (Super and I) pull him in for a conversation. I order him to stay silent (not self-incriminate), and tell him our suspicions and run him through the consequences. I tell him about the options to driving while intoxicated, and ask him to be a professional, he's a needed team member, etc. I release him to his supervisor and superintendent. 2 weeks later DUI.

He is truly a solid dude. Despite CSAF personally celebrating Tom's efforts to reduce queep, transform social media interaction, and increase readiness...HE WAS NOT SELECTED FOR PROMOTION. So the status quo will continue and the nutbag bean counters will continue to thrive as GOs.

Never seen this uniform before but it looks great.

an "operator". lulz. love it. you got your subdued c-17 SOL2 patches on or wat? get at me son #C-17_Delta_Force #Bitch_I_Operate don't take it personally bro i'm a few whiskey's deep at 2 am....its all good but for the record youre a pilot. Not. An. Operator. Nothing wrong with that. I’m a pilot too. Shots x69