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Please. Let’s not play the race card.

Correct. He's banking on the notion that the Es are smart enough to fly the airplanes but dumb enough to not be able or capable to get an online (or hell even brick and mortar) 4-year degree, thence making them non-competitive for major airline work. An absolutely checkers move and mentality on the part of senior management. You can't make this shit up. In all reality the AF is so insufferably ethnocentric that they'll end up shelving the idea anyways for a completely different and biased reason. I guess the enemy of my enemy is my friend. The clownshow continues.

The guy doesn’t make specialty art items he doesn’t endorse. He serves everyone that comes in. There is a HUGE difference but then again this is the same crowd that confuses legal immigration with illegal immigration and doesn’t understand having a d-ck makes you a male.

She’s a press secretary. Not a policy maker. Her job literally is to say the things her boss tells her to say. Hilarious they kicked her out. Big babies. But by all means continue to “resist” lol. Lotta dangerous talk coming out of the left these days. I assume y’all still claim Maxine Waters? JFC

Homosexuals are a protected class and people with seriously held religious convictions aren’t? Do we get to vote on who is a protected class? Do I have a say in who is allowed more equality than me? And can anyone reconcile the idea of a “protected class” with a society of equals? The hypocrisy in your viewpoint is staggering. Business owners either can or can’t dictate who they serve. In my opinion, they can and I’m fine with Sanders being tossed out. But your opinion apparently is that rules can change to enable outcomes you like. i enjoy listening to the debates in this thread, and I think the group here does it with more civility than anywhere else. So it’s interesting to cut to the heart of these debates on both sides, it allows us to understand the logic driving other viewpoints. That’s cool. But without standards applied equally this whole form of government falls apart.

Legality vs ethics. The left is due for a big wake up call when the Mueller report comes...I've been saying this all along. There will likely be a lot of uncomfortable things in there that are perfectly legal. Hopefully at some point in the near future Congress can sit down and have a civilized discussion of where we want those boundaries of acceptable behaviour to fall for candidates and pass laws to clearly define that.

That sounds almost almost as bad as a former campaign manager currently sitting in pretrial confinement being charged with countless federal felonies.

I can't help with your specific question, but I recommend getting your AFOQT/TBAS done and start applying to units. Let them decide at the flight physical.

I find it tragic that this dolt wasn't given a Code Red at West Point by his classmates.

I hope you are right, but Obama tried the sanctions routine as well and you can see where that got us. Sanctions are great against countries with few resources, but economies adjust, and Iran still has lots of oil, and plenty of connections with bad actors to get what they want. Here's my prediction: Trump starts tough talk with Iran, similar to North Korea...brings us close to a crisis, similar to North Korea, then defuses the situation he created with a fancy piece of paper saying "we'll work towards something", similar to North Korea, and we can pat ourselves on the back, and claim that "these things take time, please keep electing us" similar to North Korea. Meanwhile Iran sees the writing on the wall, and restarts their nuke program. Also comical that you wedge the resist thing in there. Republicans love to whine about not being in lock-step with the president until the other team gets in power, then they lock things up. How can the democrats not play the obstruction card? There have been no attempts to cross the aisle, and repeated attempts to bargain in bad faith by creating hostage-like situations (DACA). Plus it paid out in spades for you over the past 6+ years, and we didn't get anything from our efforts to cross the aisle. It's your recipe...don't act like you've never tasted it before.

Hard to then take you seriously when you say you care about people less fortunate than yourself. But I appreciate your honesty!

The Iran deal wasn't perfect, but that's the Republican mindset right now...everything is a zero sum game. There is no compromise, and if we want to win, someone else has to lose or "bend the knee". Many experts agreed that while the JCPOA wasn't great, it at a minimum largely froze their program and significantly extended their breakout timeline. We aren't going to get a country to voluntarily give up nukes, be it Iran or North Korea. We've trashed the JCPOA for what? Nothing. If you had a better deal then great, but so far there is nothing. You feign concern that Iran could possibly circumvent the JCPOA, so you invalidate it entirely and start aggressively posturing and expect things to get better. Iran saw what happened to Lybia, and Iran saw what happened to North Korea...what path do you think they will choose? At least with the JCPOA we had 10 years worth of negotiations and culture change in the country to possibly produce a different outcome. We just took the 50m target and moved it up to the 5m mark. For North Korea they already have the bomb, and a means to deliver. They have made no real concessions of substance, and for some reason despite North Korea stating numerous times in the past that they want to denuclearize, THIS time we believe them, and it's a total win even though there are zero specifics. In the end I honestly don't care if lil Kim keeps the bomb, as long as we don't get dragged into a bloody war and he keeps his nukes secured. Opening up relations with a dictator sucks, but the best you can hope for is to pipe in some K-pop, NBA and ISP blockers and go for the long-term cultural victory. If Trump can convince his base this is the "best deal ever" then so be it. My concern is that Trump believes himself that lil Kim will actually denuclearize. When Trump finds out that's not the case, he will likely feel like his loyalty was betrayed and push us closer to war. Remember perfect is the enemy of good. Trump says he wants perfect.

If they have degrees. His scheme wont survive 1st contact when enlistments are up and the AF has shit on them. They'll take their very valuable skill and get real paid. The Es that go pilot will be smart enough to get the degree while they can. The pay jump for those guys is even more. AF better have a supp flight pay to make them par or else. He must be thinking that keeping Es would be easier than Os. He'll be wrong. Out

Because any enlisted member with the chops to do those jobs should go to OTS and get the higher pay they deserve. ::headdesk::

I say, have them written! Why pass up an opportunity to churn out more queep as an exercise in true AF leadership. I have found that squadron/group/wing execs and CSS personnel are far too focused on things like flying, personal lives, and spending time with their families. They need the PRF practice. Then, after the PRFs are completed by every management level, burn them to the ground. Maybe we should instead just trust the wing commanders. PRFs are unnecessary waste, and our top managers can use some bullets saying they saved man hours, even though said man hours have already been spent on the burned PRFs. Screw it. Engineer the bullets for our time-saving overlords anyway and earn them another star! Then, the board can completely disregard the wing commanders. Damn. Those PRFs would have been useful since we now have to sift through thousands of records because we have decided that a faceless board of bureaucrats is a vastly better entity to judge an officer than a silly local commander. In any case, since we burned the PRFs and don’t trust commanders, we have to review the records for 6-9 stimulating months. But hey - extra queep for management! Im convinced this practice queep makes us a more lethal Air Force. Everyone wins!

Have you seen the Army’s approach to computer/electronic warfare? We’re a service where that phrase conjures up ideas of shooting bullets at the other guys radios/computers/generators. Yes for the love of god take this venue away from us for our own good. We are a service applying metrics of excellence adapted from the idea of basic soldier tasks. That means the smartest space/cyber/sat guy will be passed over for promotion by a stupid one that has a good run score and can regurgitate information about the M2 .50cal he isn’t MTOED to the board. We need to look at this like the aviation discussions with Mitchell pre WWII. A lot of protectionist generals are telling us we don’t need this to happen, which immediately makes it suspect. On top of that a future war with an opponent where this is defined and figured out as far as what it can/should do will result similarly to what happened between Germany and the Expeditionary Force during the opening days of WWII. The force that has its shit in a sock with regards to this new dimension of warfare is going to roll over the other guy regardless of whether of not that guy has better tanks or bigger numbers. It will be something that takes all the initiative and doesn’t give it back until it’s all over, and it will happen to fast for the adaptations to take effect and catch up.

Hmmm...you must be a serious person.