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Shack. If you're on a team but don't know or care how the rest of the team functions and what their strengths and weaknesses are, how you can help them, and how you can not hinder them, then you shouldn't be a part of the team. A dialed in tanker dude with the SA to listen in on the right frequency can anticipate how a fight, engagement, or event is going, and then coordinate and place his asset where it's needed before he's asked to do so, thereby empowering the receivers to focus on more important things. Quite frankly, the rest of the force doesn't care how well you're able to keep your airplane alive. We care about your ability to anticipate the need for your effect, and insert yourself appropriately so that the rest of the team can function better. I know that because I'm a herk dude. No one cares how well I defend my airplane against an SA-blah. They care that I know how and when to effectively integrate what I bring to the fight without placing undue burden on the rest of the team. Know how to carry your own weight and deliver your effect to the highest standard expected by your user. It is never someone else's job to figure out how you should be doing yours.

You should give that speech to FSS too

I submit that if you don't have any game against threat systems, it's even more important for you to know the effective range so you can stay the hell out of the WEZ when the lowdown is passed..

It's basically what happens when you find yourself becoming the crusty one-strike divorced Major while babysitting FAIPS during "fat and backs". It's amazing the millennial stuff you can pick up on a double turn. These cats got the dragon slayin' apps on point. The only thing I ever carried with me on a computer when I was their age was a nerd ass -38 PMP TOLD Calculator. Of course that's back when text was charged by the message, yahoo messenger was a bona fide ass-scouting venue (being decommissioned this month btw..sad that I know that), and I had to tell the slam mat to call me after 1900 so I can tap the nights and weekends minutes. These cats today have the slam mat apps pre-selected on their phone so when they chock they're already swiping right. Lining up ass has become so much easier. I will say, closing still requires ol school game. Brave new world nonetheless. I regret having married my college girlfriend after UPT, especially after she got fat and lazy in the sack. I don't regret divorcing her though. So DFP Inst Fix: 1)Stay single for the first 10 years of AF tenure...fuck it make it 15. 2)Load smartphone with "Target or higher" quality ass-scouting apps prior to off-station sortie or TDY. 3) Smash. 4) Ghost app on the RTB. 5) Profit.

Well considering you have apparently no interest in coming prepared to a real conflict based on yours and other’s statements on here, I would expect you to continue to be a puppet because the people do come prepared aren’t going to have the time to wait for you to get back in the vault to get smart on stuff you should know as a military aviator. We fight the same mentality in the C-17 world. “I don’t have RWR so why do I care about SAM threats? I can’t do anything about them.” It’s a false assumption and a willful lack of critical thinking.

I had a buddy recently TDY at the ops desk showing us all photos of a tinder chick (she was smoking) and he played the drunken messages she left him about meeting up. That evening he asked me to give him a ride to meet her. We had a beer waiting til she showed, when she did, I probably laughed out loud and saw his face. All we had seen was her face shot, the rest of here looked like a washing machine. Anyhow, be careful when shopping.

You should just call or send an email and ask. Worst they can do is say no, better to hear it from them than out speculation though.

Most dramatic thread title ever

This is how my old ass envisions this President Trump/Putin - Russia/USSR - ploy/crap going down:<) Credit for this post (repost) goes to Azimuth, he posted something similar back in March of 2014.

Meanwhile I’m just sitting here waiting for my DD-214 to post... Au revoir boys!

Weird. I thought that normally tracked you to Eagles...

I’m not exactly sure what you said there or what it means, but I’m all in.

Warning soapbox: Please, please bounce your rate quotes off us or another lender before locking with a big bank. Just this week I've had two guys switch over to Trident from a huge national bank that built its brand on serving those who serve. They clearly aren't in that business anymore because these guys both had excellent credit and no issues yet their rates were .5% and .625% higher than what Trident was doing. The ethics behind that business practice blow my mind. I don't care what lender you sanity check with (doesn't have to be Trident), but please don't just trust someone blindly because of their slogan, marketing or how they use to operate. You guys deserve to get the best/cheapest money and amazing customer service from whoever that lender ends up being. Rant over...thanks for listening! Marty

It’s incredible how much fuckery has gone into this uniform fiasco the last 10 years. It’s seriously not that hard.

You tanker guys sound like you have battered wife syndrome. There’s more to tactics than defensive systems, but there’s also plenty of room for improvement in the areas you mention.

If this is what your WOs are telling you at your base, you have a serious problem. Good tanker planning leverages both off-board capabilities and tactical situational awareness to place you as close to your receiver’s objective area as the CFACC’s ALR permits. Your job is to identify and mitigate risk, not to stay outside the WEZ. When was the last war the tankers were able to remain that far away? Hint: probably not in your lifetime. RWR and LAIRCM don’t make you tactical. Neither does flying low to the ground or using high bank angles. And in our most important missions, you’ll never be able to rely on the AWACS to be able to provide you timely threat information. If you’re a tanker crew dog, you need to get back into the books and ask more questions. The next enemy won’t be polite enough to forgive you your flawed logic—and as far as we know our amazing new fighters and bombers haven’t learned how to fly without fuel yet.

Know how I know you weren’t at MAF WEPTAC last year?

That’s been tanker standard for decades. If we wanted to be tactical we all would have done better in UPT.

This all sounds great and you could bet your ass if we were allowed to run the show in the AOR like you portray, we'd be all over it, but in the grand scheme of things, we've been Kingpin/CAOC's puppet for the last almost two decades because some dude sitting in a building with 3 foot thick concrete walls and no windows thinks he knows how to run shit better than we do. The last time I did WTF I wanted was when I heard a pair of Vipers 10 min from bingo over the Med during OUP waiting for a French controller in a NATO AWACS to approve our transit to their area. By the time the controller got back to us with an approval, we had already .85'd it over there, got them on the boom and they were off to their targets shortly there after. Of course then there's the issue with what freq is everyone on? This is not the info that we need to be searching for in the jet. That info isn't going to be handed to us by the planners who are dealing with 40 sorties a day so it all goes back up to the top. Why do we need to be on the "right freq"? We're not allowed to run the show and do whatever we want when the AOR is run like an ARTCC. So we sit there and orbit and wait for our ARCT like we are expected to because ultimately, as mundane as that seems, that's the responsibility we've been given. Hey, we get paid the same either way. Maybe in a real conflict, things would be different, but this crackpipe fantasy that tanker dudes are going to cowboy it around the AOR because they thought they heard some shit go down on some JTAC freq and decided to "insert" themselves is bullshit. Getting fuel to the fight has been much more bureaucratic than you think it is.