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Of course it's not stressful when you're at an "advanced age" and the test consists of shuffleboard and maneuvering through a few cones with your hoveround.

If the Air Force is not just bleeding pilots, but spurting (sts) them from a femoral artery, then CSAF's direction, and more importantly, follow up, should be to identify every impediment to aviator retention, implement near and mid-term solutions, and come clean to everyone - up and down the chain - on the very real problem. A tourniquet now followed by surgery within the next year. Not either be unaware or ignore such a band-aid fix as this mosquito-bite irritant of stealth ADSC increases which will have the opposite effect of driving more out rather than rat-fcuk-catching a few. It is his job and he's failing at it. How long has he been in the saddle and what significant changes have been made, and instituted/honored, by the beast between CSAF and Capt O'Donuts?

What? Is he supposed to sit down with you over avocado toast and seek to understand your feelings?

I'm surprised that nobody has copypasta'd the post the DO of the CAF unit involved made on the day after the accident.

I would stay voluntarily bonus free past 20 as long as I have the freedom to turn down the 365 or bad deal. Accepting a ADSC past that mark just gives bonus free work and all leverage to the USAF. I will hit the VML with 2 yrs and 2 mos left on my ADSC so chances are I’ll put in my paperwork for separation rather than accept another adsc. This is where the AF will miss out...people willing to stay with their freedom in tact but forced to separate rather than be under the thumb of big blue.

The real question is why are you hearing about this here, and not from management?

And furthermore! if the rules are subject to change in sneaky, spineless ways who’s to say the rest of the calculus holds? I can stand on my cranium for 10 years... but if there’s a X% chance of surprise total game-rule change, my family isn’t going to be held hostage.

This... failed one as a young Captain because the FAC civilian discounted 10 push-ups and I had a bad run time. At the time the wife just birthed a set of twins and I was on 4 hours of sleep a night and yup I hadn’t hit the gym in a solid three months because she was on bed rest the two months prior to the blessed day. Nobody gave a shat about that but here’s the rub. When I was fortunate enough to command MX ops at Cannon and had an Airman butting up against a PT due date with some life events that had kept them from being prepared I happily filled out the ole commanders exemption and told them to keep in touch if they felt they couldn’t pass after the exemption expired. Dialogue with me, but if life is keeping you from PTing there is probably some other causal factor outside of fitness to blame. To this day every time I have to take a PT test it takes me several attempts before I nut up and go take it. And no it’s not because I struggle. I’ve scored 83-85 consistently along with a couple of 90s. I have no similar problem with I/Q or MSN check rides. My point in this long rambling post is that commanders have been empowered ever since they have had the call to sign a ccs exemption. If captain x has gained 20 pounds and can’t pass the test there might be reasons other than physical that are causing these issues. Maybe some other reason... like an impending divorce, alcohol abuse, anxiety disorder or some other traumatic event. Sign the damn exemption, give your airmen the time to deal with life and if after an appropriate amount of time they can’t perform the person is lazy or unfit... you are on g series orders for a reason.

What’s a good age to start the weezing on lap 4? Asking for a friend....

I hope this is true! Nothing yells buffoonery like allowing in house flight evaluations to see if you’re safe to fly a multi million dollar airplane, but have a “fitness cell” at each base to administer PT tests because they don’t trust commanders.

I know several people who were at staff, 3+ years non current, punched at 16-17 years, and were hired directly into a major airline.

And who is in charge of those bolded? Which was/is my point. CSAF orders them to get on board or they're gone. Yet they don't. So who's ultimately to blame? I say he is. All the things you listed, while helping, are small ball. And completely undone in importance when things like this stealth ADSC effort are rolled out. Trust in the institution is the biggest thing lacking. Sneaky involuntary servitude doesn't help regain it.

Does anybody have a friend at A1 or AFPC/DP3A who can confirm that the ADSC change was intentional and not a mistake in editing? Seems like the least the organization can do is own the decision. There’s a massive difference between a cowardly trap and a calculated bad deal.

So the FAA is removing centerline thrust restrictions for mil pilots (every AF pilot in recent history save for UPT-H) while the Air Force has imposed ADSC sanctions for things like in-unit requals? How much clearer can the writing on the wall get... Thanks for posting!

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Current 4th gen already compliment the 5th gen; as long as funding is appropriately provided to continued development of vipers and both eagle variants (not hogs, because that'd be treason), well be OK with 4th gen mass supplementing smaller numbers of 5th gen. The big question is if the CFGs will allocate the funding required to keep our 4th gen fleet advancing at the required rate.

1. Our combat squadrons now have civilian schedulers, training folks, and mobility folks, meaning there's continuity and fewer flyers having to manage things like RAP, scheduling, and mobility folders. 2. He implemented about a dozen tiers of bonuses, including this year offering a bonus to WSOs even well past their initial commitment. 3. He's reduced the number of 365s. From what our functional is telling us, there are only about 20 365 jobs left that aren't SQ/CC or more senior leadership. 4. He separated IDE selection from promotion boards. 5. He approved the OCP uniform for wear. 6. You can push up the sleeves on your flight suit. Maybe you don't think that's enough...I know most on the board don't. But he's not just sitting around. He is actively working to change things within the Air Force. I don't think the problem lies with Fingers. The problem lies at the WG/CC GP/CC level and with A-staff at the MAJCOM. If all of that leadership actually implemented the things Fingers is telling them to, life would be a lot better for line dudes.

They ride each other...

I love all the badass PT bubba's here. I get it your fit, you pass the test no problem. Not every one is like you nor should the be because honestly that would suck. I also never struggle with the test, but I am also blessed with a small waste and can eat Pizza every day and likely not see much of a change in my overall body composition. I am lucky and I know it. I hate running, I dont have a bum knee, I don't have a problem with my back, I don't particularly have any reason to not excel beyond the fact that I to this day have yet to set foot into a gym other than for a PT test (okay not 100% true but close enough). Should I be working out? Sure, but you know life. I spend that extra time with my family, with my kids, and more importantly posting bull$S#$ on this forum. If the AF truly gave two craps about our physical fitness they would mandate time out of the duty day for it, period. The few locations were I had it scheduled for me I gladly spent that time at the gym. But when you ask me to knock out 12 hour days and then ask me to find my own time to work out then your full of it. Granted now I do not have that issue, my days are generally max 10 hour, with many closer to a what I would consider acceptable 8 hour day I have less of a time crunch to lean back on. But still if it is part of my employment it likely should be part of my expected work day and build into it as such.

You do you, boo. I've had 2 back surgeries, crushed disc at 19 and then a bone spur compressing the sciatic nerve at 35. I got addicted to narcotics to deal with the pain while the AF figured it out. PSA - Withdrawals suck. Now I've got bone spurs in both heels that look like eagle talons on the x-ray. I've never failed a PT test, but I've come close. I can't depend on my body to not fuck itself. I also carry all of my weight in the midsection, so the tape is a constant struggle. Every time I get to a place I consider acceptable for PT another part breaks. I do what I can, track food, diet...workout as directed by the medical hobby shop. The stress that hits me for PT testing is unlike anything else I've ever done (CDC or promotion testing enlisted, undergrad/grad classes, alone with SrA Hotness, etc.).

I consistently score around 90 and have never failed a PT test. I get nervous before every single one. There is no other measure that has so much ability to impact someone's career. I know people who have failed a PT test ten years ago who were then prevented from going to WIC. Meanwhile, I know people who had run-ins with the law who were still allowed to apply. Even if it's something you can do in your sleep, the stress of knowing every test could end your career is still present and significant.

I prefer manually pinging G2 and the scheduling Lt to improve my schedule. Much more interactive that way.