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The 177 Fighter Wing in Atlantic City will be having a hiring board for Undergraduate Pilot Training candidates seeking to fly the F-16 1-2 June 2019. Packages are due 15 April 2019. Please reference the below website for details. https://www.177fw.ang.af.mil/Units/Careers/ Please send all questions to: usaf.nj.177-fw.mbx.177-fw-upt@mail.mil Thanks.

14N Guy, one of your earlier posts you mentioned that someone told you 14N Lts don't get stratted, that statement is just flat out wrong. Also, in my neck of the woods, the O-6 recently convened multiple boards to scrub CGOs and FGOs records to have a knife fight and determines which shiny pennies the unit wants to push to the next level. Pretty crazy if you ask me because we are making pushes based on people's entire records of performance and not all of the supervisors were present to fight for their guys/gals. For the young lurkers, I'll share my observations with you so you know what you are getting yourself into before you cross that blue line on the ground. It's not universally applicable but this is what I've seen in my decade plus of TIS across multiple AFSCs and serving for different levels of command. Also had a few good mentors who shared their insights with me early on. If the more experienced guys/HPOs on this board disagrees with the content below please feel free to chime in and tell me why I'm wrong. I would have made a real pyramid for you all but I'm too lazy to do that. Before I start, I will say I think I understand AF GO's logic from way back. They want to put the best/most credible GOs at the Pentagon to advocate for AF's piece of the pie, and I believe the HPO program is their solution. I can support the logic of putting the best GOs at the puzzle palace/in front of cameras but I disagree with the HPO method of picking them so early in their careers. Understand to make it far, it helps to be fit, photogenic, and articulate. This is how you catch your sponor's attention and one way to the HPO on-ramp. Before you sign on the dotted line, understand if you priority is to serve your mission/hack the mission/spread freedom all over the world, then you are "most likely" to top out at non-command O-5 (best case scenario). If your priority is to become a General officer then the rat race begins as soon as you take that oath. At the end of the day promotion is a percentage game, what's your chance of making it to the next level? O-1 to O-4 for now is free, but what you do as an O1 affects your chance of making O-5 and beyond. For the mission hackers, from day 1, be the best at your job, be a good bro/wingman, do what's "right", enjoy/take advantage of the military career, be a good parent and spouse, check the required boxes as you see fit. Promotion past O-4 will be a crapshoot for you, a lot can change but you'll be stressed out and fight to be in the top 50% of your peers for many years (if you want to fight for it). For the GO wannabes, be a DG and be stratted as many times as you can early on. DGs/#1s at commissioning source, initial training, SOS, whatever...build that strong performance record from day 1. If you get picked up as an Aide de Camp as an O-1/O-2 then you are really set. Fight for high level Exec jobs as much as you can. Your strong performance records will get you picked up for the selective assignments later on. White House jobs, high level execs, special programs. It's a snowball effect. Someone long ago told me you can afford to make mistakes as O-1/O-2, O-3 is where people hold you accountable. That's really cute if you just want to make it to O-4. It's been said on this board many times, and it's true. You should know by mid-O-3 how far your career is going to go. The HPOs know because they have been setup for success from day 1 and they see their mentors' secrets to "success." For the non-HPOs, in most cases you should strive for a MAJCOM+ staff job by mid-O-3 and/or pick a specialty path that makes you stand out and increase your chance of getting noticed. WIC, FAO, TPS (sorry Olevelo), Phoenix XXXXXX, PhD, JOCCP, CNODP, WH, SOF, green doors, and etc. Also continue to fight for Exec jobs, and If you are lucky to pick up a sponsor, he/she will tell you when to deploy. Time your assignment right so you will be eligible for in-res IDE (very difficult w/ FAO). O-4 continue to fight for the exec jobs, staff leadership positions (duty title matters!), and time your assignment right so people knows you well when you need to submit the PRFs. I hated the old SOS and ACSC by correspondence and Masters degree requirements, but now I see you can't avoid ACSC by correspondence and a Masters if you want to increase your promotion chances down the road. ACSC by correspondence done early makes you eligible for non-AF IDEs and also JPME II (volleyball and/or softball) early, which leads to fully Joint qualified even if you don't get picked up for ACSC In-Res. Masters degree is required for O-6, and if you didn't do ACSC In-Res you'd be scrambling to get a Master's degree last minute when you have less time (family and responsibilities), so might as well knock it out early on in your career if you know you want that full-bird. This will also impress your boss as a CGO and gives you a leg up against your peers. I'm in no way of promoting the young folks to be a careerist, but I want you to know the rules of the game so you can pick the right path and be at peace with yourself later on in your career. I had a better understanding of this game as a late O-3/early O-4, kind of knew my promotion % going forward and decided to put my family first. The decision solidified after the 2014 VSP/RIF debacle. I was not affected but I saw how inept the senior leaders and the O-6s were in carrying out this task. When my O-6 thanked me for educating him on the VSP/RIF details so he knows how the programs affected his folks it solidified my decision not to trust this bureaucracy to take care of me and my family. I've declined quite a few "golden opportunities" since 2014 but I'm a much happier person for it and get to "enjoy" my work while doing what's best for me and my family. Good luck to you regardless of which path you choose. Just do the right thing and don't mess with people's careers. Added: I used to hate people fight for Exec jobs, but it's actually a great learning opportunity. You'll also walk away with decent strats/pushes from a senior leader. Execs get a lot of hate because they will get that better strat/push than the mission hackers...

You, son, have lots to learn.

Went non-current on green dot and left CAC in computer before chasing down the guy who stole his phone.

AETC CC and 19AF Cc today at all call: “trust us” i lol’d

If you don’t know you’re going places then you aren’t going places. Simple as that. Mid level captains are on the “path” and know it. I feel bad for some of you guys slugging it out with wording of push lines 😕

Give me a break he made an off hand comment doesn’t deserve to be forced to retire. Everyone on this website has made a dumb comment in public don’t get holier than thou on me. And he apologized for it Forcing people to cover suicide attempts is way worse. Ill say it again why anyone would strive to become a commander in this climate baffles me. One mistake (even out of your control) and your career is DONE. D. O. N. E. GOOD LUCK!

CC or DO is at the naming specifically to prevent some retard fighter FTU washout from naming a chick after her nether region (ESPECIALLY in front of some GO). Pawn man is spot on. Ive been to several roll calls where the boss has told us to rein it in; typically it was warranted. The worst part is, right or wrong, namings will now be verboten in UPT and maybe even other phases of training - all because some dumbass crossed a line and his CC failed to put him in his place.

Once the CC learned of the shenanigans, swift and immediate action was taken. It was a rogue Flt/CC that made a terrible decision. Bold statement, pawnman, I submit that this is certainly not the case.

Wait for it...

Not sure what my assignment has to do with this. I voiced my concerns appropriately months before assignment night. There were multiple things going wrong there. The new LTs probably just thought “this is how it is”, which was a huge disservice to them. Having been around longer than most of the IPs there, I could recognize problems. I’ve PMed you.

Do you think T-1 pilots have naming ceremonies?

You and me, I guess. I wonder how many LtCols they're looking to promote on our board... The rate should go up if they want to keep pace with the number from the 04 year group.

Since it happened on Halloween, does that make it a purge?

Have you ever been invited to someone’s home for dinner? There is etiquette involved.

Sarcasm detector inop. Try recycling power.

You know this is BS amigo. I was one of your IPs and was there for 5 years. Very professional environment. Your Flt/CC was terrible, but don’t shit on the rest of the Sqdn who worked hard and were very professional. Just because you got butthurt when you got JSTARS, don’t bash one of the most professional environments I’ve ever worked in during my 22 years in the military.

But she was trying to recover from her mistake that she made after being in the AF for 6 months! The General who had served over 2 decades maybe embarrassed her! He deserves to be fired! /sarcasm The suicide thing is definitely odd. But in today’s culture, I would almost guarantee it was the “sexual harassment” that got him fired.

Newbie Investigating Officer: “Do boats like this sink very often?” Crusty ole' Skipper: “No, usually it’s only once.”

Pumps got stuck on, huh...that's interesting.

That's a lot of loose lips.

Duck says MUST PROMOTE is better Anything that doesn’t say Definitiely Promote is bad do you really not know?

A for creativity and the 1.75L bottle, but Roll Tide.

Are contributions from my service also mine to keep if I separate from service? This is where the word “vested” comes in. Being vested means having ownership. To be fully vested in your account means you are entitled to all of the funds in it. Like any uniformed services member with a TSP account, BRS members are always vested in their own contributions and their earnings. They're also immediately vested in Service Matching Contributions and their earnings. To become vested in Service Automatic (1%) Contributions, however, you must have completed at least two years of service. If you’ve completed two years of service before you opt in, you’re immediately vested in your entire account. https://www.tsp.gov/PDF/formspubs/tspfs01.pdf

HIANG rejection emails went out.

Rumor is the last straw was a naming where a female student was named an abbreviation. Think of the worst possible word to call a female and that’s what it was. See you next... If true, I doubt it was the -38 sq. Any fighter pilot who has actually been to a naming before wouldn’t fvck it up that bad. My money is on the toners. Anyone know? CC should have stepped in an nixed it. Just so much stupid all around...again, if true.

“a threatening environment, irresponsible alcohol consumption and disrespectful treatment of some students” isn’t too far off in my personal experience within my flight. That being said, I had a blast there (most of the time).

For anybody still tracking this, had an interesting conversation with a senior leader about what happened to me. Basically I was told my records were fine, except for 2 OPRs. Those OPRs weren’t referrals and they didn’t have any overt negative indicators on them, but, they did have words that made them negative in the eyes of the board. Specifically, they both had push lines that said something like, “ready for next challenge “, and “IDE look” or, “prep for IDE”. Neither had a leadership push but one did have a staff push. So basically, 2 OPRs that were put in my record 8 years ago and 10 years ago have eliminated me from consideration for O-5. I did ask when records from 3-5 years ago would start counting more then records from 8-10 years ago and I was told there isn’t a good answer for that. I was told that if I had received those OPRs as an Lt they probably would have been ignored by the board. As it stands, outside of a General pushing my PRF there is nothing I can do to overcome those two OPRs. Bottom line, if you are a early/mid-level Captain make sure your push lines have all of the parts they need (strat/leadership/school). Nobody else will watch out for your records so you have to.

Not understanding the fuss. Anyone have any gouge on the Minnesota board coming up? No meet and greets correct? Do they historically hire within?

Yep just got mine. That bogidope consulting service is starting to look mighty enticing.

Probably depends on your tone. If you said it in a kind of funny way I don’t think they’d hold that against you and might like it depending on your delivery. If you were dead serious, maybe not the best idea lol.

Don’t do that. Submit an updated application if you have to but rescinding the whole thing isn’t the way to go. Even if you think the video hurts you, it’s not gonna hurt you as bad as having no video or application at all. Also if you’re worried about other units out there seeing it, you can change the privacy setting on there from public to “unlisted” so that only people with the link can see it.

Nope, waaaay too muggy down there. If I’m gonna be stuck in a place for the next decade or more I need to enjoy the climate and I like it cold lol. Plus I’ve decided to put fighter unit apps on hold until I’ve gotten my PPL. And oh jeeze, Sea Dogs finally found his laptop charger again. 🙄

Not yet, I’m going to wait until Thursday and if I still have no feedback, I’ll send another email. Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app

I asked but I haven't heard back yet.