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Hostile renaming for the Flight CC to “Can U Not Talk?”

As advertised. I am now on terminal leave and also got s job with a major airline. Stress level zero and never been so happy in my life. Yes, it trumps UPT, PCS, Adv flying training ADSCs. The only thing that you need to check is the GI bill transfer of benefits eligibility. This is all from memory so please check me on this. If you decline continuation but separate at the mandatory 6 month date, you can keep your transfer benefits even if you still owe time on the ADSC. If however you try and move it up you MAY lose the transfer.

The Army can do this because an Army O-3 will have like 2 Lts and a hundred enlisted under his command. Hard to do that when you have flying squadrons in the Air Force with a hundred officers (including FGOs) and like 2 Airmen.

Just doing my part to free our fellow posters from the AF Stockholm Syndrome.

I believe the N is Normal taxi. Pretty sure said individual got lost taxiing on a solo at DLF. Also the naming didn’t occur with families present. The callsign was on a wall and a GO’s wife saw it. All snowball down hill from there. As for the firings, there’s a lot more to it than just this naming ceremony. Once again, the CDI results will shed some light on it all. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Didn't think you were at Laughlin? Too soon?

Why does this always happen at Laughlin? It seems every 6-9 months there is a failure of leadership or some sort of scandal from Del Rio. Is it the proximity to Randolph and the big blue flame of AETC ineptitude or the lack of shit to do in BFE Texas? We did a flight naming in T-38s when I went through UPT in '99, which was incredibly tame but taught us the ropes before RTU. If the above is true, it seems like a complete loss of SA for the FLT/CC who would let the naming board be posted in public, let alone push that name in front of the MAJCOM commander (if true). In my experience, we kept this in the vault to avoid such a possible "misunderstandings". If this is all it takes for a WG/CC and OG/CC to be sacked these days, there had to be more going on than is being broadcast to the outside. If not, then pull chocks and launch for survival my friends.

Wait, you let them drive? Bold move Cotton...

That's f-ucking bullshit that some ass clown wannabe ruined such a sacred tradition and a significant moment for a stud who has earned the right to be there. I don't know the details, but it sounds like it's also bullshit that some dudes lost their careers over it. Seriously, what kind of idiot would ever think that is ok? A naming ceremony is about welcoming a new fighter pilot into the pack. It's about having fun and giving them a proper name which they've earned. It's not about letting someone, who has no idea what they're doing, berate subordinates.

Sounds like a dumbass Capt needed to be removed from his position, given an LOR, and a CC call with the bros on WTF is acceptable and what’s not. That’s where it should have gone. Now, if the DO and up were at the naming and said nothing/let it slide, now I can see firings. Maybe that’s the case, but not what I’ve heard. Bottom line, as a CC I don’t think it would even cross my mind that one of my flt ccs would be so retarded as to name a chick C, and even more so in front of a GO. I wouldn’t be there, would find out about it afterwards, and then do the above. That’s realistic and reasonable. All of these leaders were probably at home playing with their kids when this went down - and because they were unable to telepathically sense what was about to go down in the future, jump in their Delorean, and stop the shenanigans, they got their careers ruined. My only caveat is there could be far more to the story we don’t know about, but firings for the actions of a rogue shithead flt cc alone is bullshit.

https://www.airforcemag.com/Features/Pages/2018/October 2018/Final-F-22s-Getting-Ready-to-Take-Off-from-Tyndall-as-Base-Continues-Recovery-from-Catastrophic-Hurricane.aspx Some good news from Tyndall.

I'm a good candidate, cause I honestly couldn't give any less of a shit...

Almost like there was..... Met a couple Cols from PACAF walking around for a while doing on investigation. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

So many variations on the story of what happened. It’s almost like someone should have called an uninterested third party to come in and conduct an independent investigation.

Bragging

I would think ascension into the upper ranks (O-5 and higher) should incorporate multiple means of evaluation i.e. performance reports, pedigree (as in tactical proficiency, previous leadership positions held, WIC/Whitehouse Fellow/Olmsted etc.), references from previous commanders, and an interview between you and the board. The current promotion system is another example of how the USAF hides behind a "paper bureaucracy" without really knowing who they are selecting. I have seen it time and time again where a "meh" officer is selected over someone genuinely deserving. I believe by opening up the playing field regarding the person's record, we would be able to de-escalate the significance of stratification whether it is an actual number stratification or top/middle/bottom ranking. I do realize that my suggestions would come at an administrative/logistical cost and the only solution I can think of is to not have promo boards by AFSC, but maybe conduct them at an even more specialized level and have them by parent MAJCOM. The con with this idea is that we might run into a situation where there are less GO's who can cross disciplines.

This top/middle/bottom bucketing doesn’t help anything other than reducing the time it takes the OG and Wing to nitpick the numbers. How is it fair to the guys in a unit full of rock stars to get stratted as a bottom third guy? That’s even worse than it is now where they just get no strat so you can’t tell if they’re 25% or 75%....or getting an alternate strat (#1/69 mop holders). Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I’ve heard this as well. Also heard 2-line PRFs as early as the March 19 (I think?) O-5 board and AFSC promo boards starting CY20.

And you couldn’t come up with a better name for a woman getting lost while driving?! Those write themselves!

Cant Understand Not Taxi. And it was done with multiple civilian family members present in the room since it was also a drop night 🤦‍♂️

Not disagreeing with the overall content/message of your post, but that said I've seen many solid "mission hacking"/never-worn-a-knee-pad dudes have a decent career and command a squadron and a few gone to OG+. It absolutely can be done. You may face an uphill battle if you stay mission focused, but doing so does not inherently close doors. My recommendation to any young guy is put mission first at work, don't neglect your family, and overall just do the right thing. It'll all work out...maybe you become a CC, maybe you fly for Delta after 11 years, maybe you do both in the ARC...it'll all be good no matter how it works out. As soon as you start prioritizing the rat race and neglecting the mission and your family, you're losing.

17D’s always causing trouble for 14N’s.

They set up a GoFundMe for the family and funeral: https://www.gofundme.com/lay-seth-quotjethroquot-nehring-to-rest

Complain about butt-hurt students all you want...if you don't have the SA to throttle back shenanigans when someone wearing stars walks into the bar, I submit you don't have the SA to command a squadron effectively.

Humor me younguns, I’m in Portugal enjoying my time left and wine. With that being said, despite differences I see posted, I believe we are all wanting the best for OUR country. Many a time (1969-1972) I recall acrimonious verbal volleyball about the whys? Still we focused on Mutual Support every day. Appreciate differences of opinions, but Check each other’s 6, as we are all, or have been in the game.

No the truth is the sq commander was the one who named her a c word in front of a general...in fact it was KWAST himself in the room what low sa by the sq cc zomg fuck bashi - pawnman