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Pontius Pilatus depicted below:

This was UPT in 1986, and those numbers are skewed since some of the graduates were wash-backs from other classes.

As to a T-6, no doubt there would be cost savings in commonality but the DART would be cheaper to buy and fly, maintain as a fleet of ACE aircraft, not sure about that... Agreed, this has negative 6.9% chance of happening but it never hurts to argue for it over BO No argument also as to how screwed up things have gotten thanks to the Higher, Farther, Faster crowd that Boyd fought at the Puzzle Palace. Also, I see no end to it with current crop of leaders at the controls now or in the future, no one is going out on a limb to say not every plane has to be the absolute best in category or it's shit, the party line is continuing. In other threads I've argued for less costly, less sophisticated platforms to be an appropriate part of the overall AF fleet and will continue to do so along with others, only a total idiot or a corrupt narcissist would continue this delusion that we need overkill for 80% of the time we deliver airpower. Don't mind getting teased/chided for my incessant, cultish advocacy for platforms like the Scorpion or YA-7F, these are platforms we need, can afford and quite frankly, would be the easy A the AF needs to get it's mojo back with Congress and Media. Every time we dream up some science project that blows up in our faces and we have to go back to Dad for more money is that much more political and real capital we don't have in the future for the other things we will need to just keep the lights on, but hey that's the next guy's problem... Rant complete.

Where else would Clark throw down his inane knowledge of random aircraft if he went with that simple of an idea?

Guys it’s not that difficult really. Simple economics in the end. The pay has to be commensurate with the job. Either more pay or less work. Until they do that, people are going to keep migrating towards opportunities where the pay is commensurate. And relying on patriotism won’t work either when most of us view the last 20 years as a total waste of blood and treasure. Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app

There's a quote that goes something like "A life without risk is no life at all." How many Air Force programs and policies that are aimed at reducing risk are making us miserable?

Being a PA officer has to be one of the most miserable jobs in the Air Force, at least if you are not a 100% pathological liar with no shred of conscious. I can't really blame the poor smuck for going on a record breaking bender. I don't even drink, but I'm sure I would had I worked in PA.

Not great

LOL I always get that. It's not wrong; your "correction" is a common misconception from the American mouthbreathing collective. Marcus Pontius Pilatus is the full Latin naming convention for said historical figure. Pilate is for those who think historical Jesus spoke 'Murican and had Jim Caviezel for a doppelganger.

I found myself the specific next assignment that would have kept me in for 4+ more years of AD, and was still told, "No, FU, PCS to Cannon." Oh well, see ya guys then I guess 🤷‍♂️ Been in the Guard almost 5 years now with a good shot to be on orders as long as I want, as well as the option to just DSG and fly the line occasionally if shit goes sideways. The grass is definitely greener. Go Guard!

Quick update - return to fly approved! Total time DNIF was about 5 weeks and included a PCS. Two awesome docs worked together and put in the waiver paperwork. Definitely helped that it was a “one-off” event, and was written up as such. Also, no cause was discovered which allowed the docs more leeway to use their judgement.

Lockheed is unloading more than just pre-owned F-16's...

Trolling for a TODO job there Pro-Super? LOL Been there, done that; no thank you!

Wait til people find out they let guys straight out of UPT instruct in T-38s. Minds will be blown. 🤯

Side note: For y'all not familiar with Cal Worthington, just youtube search his commercials from the 70's. I was a young kid in SoCal from '74'-''77 and remember them vividly. "It's Cal Worthington and his dog Spot!" And... oh, by the way... the guy was a Great American. Read this blurb from his wikipedia page: "At the beginning of World War II, Worthington enlisted in the Army Air Corps. Commissioned a Second Lieutenant, he was the aerobatics champion at Goodfellow Field in San Angelo, Texas. He saw combat as a B-17 Flying Fortress pilot with the 390th Bomb Group, flying 29 missions over Germany. He was discharged after the war as a captain. Worthington was awarded the Air Medal five times, and received the Distinguished Flying Cross, which was presented to him by General Jimmy Doolittle. Worthington's military service was frequently revisited in the 21st century in aviation magazines, since he had trained pilots who would become some of America's first astronauts." In 2016, I was offered a job to fly Cal Worthington's Learjet 24 in Sacramento. Cal died a few years earlier and a local guy bought it. You have never seen such a pristine Learjet. It was fucking gorgeous. I ended up not taking the job (and still have emotional issues as a result). Long, uninteresting, and boring story so I'll leave it at that. But,... if that jet is still in the local area in a few years...

Disagree completely. Thanks for being a part of the board and supporting your significant other. Go into this journey with open eyes and realize the path is a difficult one for the whole family. In many respects I believe it to be harder on the non-mil member. I hope some of the younger/more recent applicants can offer some good advice. Best of luck to you both. Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app

That was my strategy too...

And you know all of this how? Seems like in another thread you’re still very green in the interview process, but I digress... I 100% disagree on the part to not get a Master’s. I, too, had a low undergraduate GPA, but I offset that with a high GPA for my Master’s. You will need the degree later on to promote, so why not go ahead and get it done? If that makes someone “lose focus” during the interview process, then UPT probably wasn’t cut out for them anyway.

Considering I was someone who went through the interview circuit and was successfully picked up by a fighter unit, I’m pretty confident I have a better grasp on the the whole process than you do. When I say that getting a Master’s helps, guess what, it worked for me. Also, I know exactly what UPT is like, and I can say without a doubt it’s far more rigorous than most Master’s degrees. There’s nothing wrong with someone wanting to better themselves or what they can bring to the table. If that calls for getting a Master’s then yeah, let him go get it to offset his low undergrad GPA. He’ll make it work if he wants to interview badly enough.

@Desk Jobs Suck has quite the mouth on him for someone who hasn't even been hired by a unit. I'm sure he'd be a real pleasure to fly with. Probably why no one has given him a slot, considering the only requirement is to fog a mirror.

Good for you guys, I don't give AF what you say or think. I'm going to get picked up to either fly the F-35 or F-22 and prove you wrong. What you think of me doesn't matter, your snowflake opinion is worthless to me. Have fun complaining about me on here, looks like that is the only thing going on in your lives! Pathetic you took that much time to reply to me on a Saturday night. Don't have any better plans? Whatever. Have a good life people, your opinion has no bearing on my future. See you in UPT.

How does this forum keep falling for this same troll? JC! It's the same dude trolling you all with a new account each week.

L O L. You sound like a 13 year old, not a 31 year old.