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“You're going to have to do something more to entice me to come back out of retirement... again.” - HuggyU2 Now that was funny, good stuff right there. AND Gen Ronald Fogleman was the Best. We roof stomped him late at night (best we could at his VOQ) at Maxwell during “The Gathering of Eagles.” We let him know we were upset he retired, but he kept his word so there’s that. He had a shot of Jeremiah Weed with each and every one of us in his boxers and handed us his business card. Told us he was in a shit business. Porta Potty rental business in Durango, CO. Don’t make them like him anymore. Tex Hill and other warriors there put us under the table, they were unstoppable. Good Times!

And this is what the real truth is. You want him to ruin any chance he has of positive impact for the force for the future. He goes balls to the wall for what and lose any ability to advocate for the service. He's got to fall in line with all kinds of civilian leadership, on top of ensuring he gets buy in from the 3-stars and up that his changes will continue. Are there people here who really believe there'll be mass retirements in protest from the eligible 4-stars over...additional duties, or 1 failed aircraft acquisition? Is it just jr. Capt's on here complaining the Finger's has done nothing but the song changes and the light attack? CSS' have grown, and we've seen more power return to the Sq CC's that have had the balls to use it. If yours hasn't...that's not on Fingers. I've also seen a thawing of the frozen middle we detest at the ops levels...staff is going to take awhile. 2 line PRF's, extended the HPO pole years and come down on the way we're grooming officers, Cyber moved to ACC, and there's been tons of good growth there that came from HAF, changes to our IDE selection and ability to attending/timing, tons of positive changes to the E-side of the house. I've seen the attitude of the USAF change positively since he's taken over.

So was Welsh. Lots of hopes were high. And he decided to front load a RIF and then cash in all of his chips trying to park the A-10.

The 122d Fighter Squadron is planning to hold an Inexperienced hiring board on Sunday, 17 May 2020. Please contact Maj Stanley Cheng at 122fspilothiring@gmail.com if you're interested in visiting the World Famous Bayou Militia over March or April drill (14-15 March, 4-5 April). Cheers, Lt Col Sam Joplin Commander, 122d Fighter Squadron

Personally I don’t think it would hurt if you’re hand delivering it during a visit as long as you sent them an email too.

Eh, I'm guessing we'll have a much smaller PS check this year, which if you treat it as you should (found money), it shouldn't be a big deal. If it came to that I'd think we may just stop hiring for a while. At a company meeting this week, they said they don't have plans on stopping hiring/classes anytime soon (of course...hire until you furlough lol) as we're already behind on hiring. Also, if anyone is turning their nose up at cargo haulers, they're idiots. The only reasons I didn't go there was I was called by DAL first and I live very close to a major DAL base. Honestly, if this situation is scaring you, you may not have the stomach to be in this industry. I'd expect this to be one of the many threats of the day we'll see over the coming decades. Then again, I was wrong one other time...so there's that!

To the OP, I was also an average T-38 stud who tracked C-130s, disappointed at assignment night but has since loved it! Current C-130 Weapons Officer and I’ll tell you right now, great things on the horizon for us. It is an awesome airplane; we get to call ourselves MAF so of course there are fancy hotels in Thailand and mai tais on the beach...we are also a tactical platform so we get to fly in the same environment as the pointy nose guys; of course we can’t shoot back but that’s okay. Flying a formation low level in mountains to an airdrop or dirt LZ and dropping an entire Battalion of the 82nd airborne with supporting F-16s in escort are pretty cool ways to earn a living. AFSOC is also an option if you are more mission focused but I hear Cannon AFB is paradise.. I strongly urge you to put C-130s but at the end of the day, any airplane you fly will become your second girlfriend/wife/husband/etc. Good luck!

Amen bro. But on the flip side, if your direct leadership pushed an OPR through on short timeline, it appears at least they attempted to help you. What happens at the MLR is the stuff of sorcery and unless you're a shiny penny it's tough to fare well there. If you're 1APZ this year, that puts you 15 years in service by my count. On the downslope now to check of the month club and when you retire, no one in your new job and/or new life will give a shit what you retired as. A lot of people in the Air Force game think it matters. But it doesn't. We're all gonna be Mr. or Ms. in the not too distant future. Hang in there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Fogleman https://www.nytimes.com/1997/07/29/us/criticism-over-blast-leads-top-air-force-general-to-retire.html July 30, 1997 As my tenure as your Chief of Staff ends, I want to tell you what an honor and a privilege it has been to represent everyone in the United States Air Force. The timing of my announcement was driven by the desire to defuse the perceived confrontation between myself and the Secretary of Defense over his impending decision on the Khobar Towers terrorist attack. The decision to retire was made after considerable deliberation over the past several weeks. On one level, I’ve always said that my serving as the Chief of Staff was a “tour” not a “sentence” and that I would leave when I made all the contributions that I could. After I accepted this position in 1994, I met with other senior leaders of the Air Force to discuss our goals for my tenure. We wanted to take care of the troops and their families, to stabilize the force, to set a course for modernization, and to develop a new strategic vision. During some difficult and challenging times, we have worked hard to accomplish that and more. Certainly there is more to be done, but the framework of the plan and the leadership [are] in place to move forward with the support and efforts of the magnificent men and women of our Air Force. On another level, military service is the only life I have ever known. My stock in trade after 34 years of service is my military judgment and advice. After serving as Chief of Staff for almost three years, my values and sense of loyalty to our soldiers, sailors, marines, and especially our airmen led me to the conclusion that I may be out of step with the times and some of the thinking of the establishment. This puts me in an awkward position. If I were to continue to serve as Chief of Staff of the Air Force and speak out, I could be seen as a divisive force and not a team player. I do not want the Air Force to suffer for my judgment and convictions. In my view, this would happen if I continue as your Chief. For these reasons I have decided to retire and devote more time to personal interests and my family, … but the Air Force will always be in my thoughts. [My wife] and I have met a lot of wonderful American servicemen and -women—active duty, Guard, Reserve, civilians, and family members—and they will continue to be a part of our lives. We have been proud to represent the men and women of the United States Air Force around the globe and to serve in the finest Air Force in the world. God bless and keep you all as you continue to serve this great nation.

My opinion...you don't get that cushy consulting/board member gigs by ruffling feathers.

At least one had a PCSM below the threshold they wanted but I don't know about the other person.

Can anyone explain to me why these guys are unwilling to ruffle feathers at that point in their careers? They can't advance beyond their current position, and they're financially secure for the rest of their lives. All of them preach integrity, but not one is willing to fall on his sword (Integrity for you, career advancement for me). The best I can come up with is that these dudes think if they toe the line hard enough, they might get a shot at Chairman of JCS. That's pretty brazen to sacrifice your entire branch of service to maybe get one last promotion before you retire. I'm genuinely curious to hear everyone's thoughts.

Long overdue for a pullout (sts). Our NCA is speaking out of two sides of their mouth when they say the priority is training for a near peer adversary in a contested environment yet we deploy our entire squadron to Afghanistan where the most lethal threat is Mustafa with his Ak-47. Kind of hard to convince commanders to train for the high end threat when Afghanistan is what they’ll get graded on...

Only works if you don't plan on going anywhere. 75 hours but you're still technically on the hook. 50 hours and no strings attached...I'd take that all year. 50 hours is more than enough for me.

Now, all of those women who weren't joining the Air Force because of that blasted 3rd verse of the song will decide to become Airpersons. Mission-critical issue solved. Leadership at its finest.

My personal preference of CSAF would be a career ops O5 straight to CSAF. That would shake things up.

Started going to AFG in 2002. Was last there in 2018. I visited most, if not all, C-130 capable airfields in the country. In addition to the most important/worst part, the human cost, we watched the bases go from old Soviet buildings, to tents, to B-huts, to shipping containers, to hard billets, and then abandoned. Buckets to port-a-pots, to cadillacs, to proper shitters, then abandoned. The continuous pouring of square miles of concrete at every airfield. Giant bases created in the open desert and then bulldozed. The contractors everywhere. We looked down on the continuous train of supply trucks stretching halfway across the country from Pakistan. Watched the 24/7 arrival of equipment, MRAPs, M-ATVs, earthmovers, construction equipment, trucks for years on end. All used up and now rotting in giant graveyards. Trillions of dollars disposed of in that wasteland. No point, just don't know what to think of it all.

Let them run their $h:thole country as they see fit. As long as they aren’t a threat to Americans.

As long as we take a “total destruction” mindset like WW2, it could work. Aside from OGA/HVI targeting missions, it needs to be all out death and destruction for decisive action, to the end that it’s so bad for our enemies they choose not to step out of line against the western world again. Anything less and we end up in the same cycle of constant deployed ops.