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I don't want to. That, according to my understanding of being possessed of the gift of American citizenship is enough of a reason. Mainly because I despise being told that I must according to the whims of buearucrats (sp?). Our administrative state is UFB. Our duly elected federal representatives and executive branch have not passed nor enacted a law done IAW our Constitutional system. Therefore, I don't have to. States may vary IF they've passed a valid law IAW their state charter/constitution AND, if needed, the Supreme Court decides in the state's favor.

Notice how “freedoms” is in quotation marks? This is because I wouldn’t place seatbelts, no smoking laws, or masks In the same category as voting, gun rights, or free speech. “Well where do you draw the line?” you say. Don’t know but it sure as shit ain’t at masks. Care to make an argument on how wearing a mask infringes on your unalienable rights as an American?

This is the most terrible justification in the entire philosophical pantheon.

Are you kidding? This baby is off the charts!

Beg to differ. Americans have a history of givIng up “freedoms” for the greater good. I’m old enough to remember when seatbelt use became universal. You don’t hear too many people today arguing against seatbelts, but the debate at the time was somewhat similar to what’s going on today. “Why does the government care how I keep myself safe in my own vehicle?” etc. Well, as it turns out, society as a whole is better off when there aren’t needless deaths and emergency room visits. So guess what? You lost your ‘Murican birthright to choose to go unbelted and somehow we managed to avoid becoming a police state. Banning public smoking would be a more recent example of the same concept. If your individual actions have a negative impact on the public as a whole, you shouldn’t be surprised to see those actions curtailed in some way shape or form. Putting on a seatbelt, not smoking in public, and yes, wearing a mask during a pandemic has everything to do with being a polite, civic minded human being and nothing to do with your government going rogue. As far as justification for putting people out of work, don’t throw me in with that camp. I happen to agree with your assessment that we’ve flattened the curve and it’s time to go back to work. I won’t naively argue there aren’t some looking to further their particular goals on the back of a hobbled economy, but I might suggest there are far fewer “libs” espousing that rhetoric than OAN would have you believe. It ain’t just republicans out of work and hurting and the VAST majority of Americans are wishing things would get going sooner rather than later. Maybe my idea of logical thought is different than yours but I see widespread mask usage as KEY to providing the public the confidence to do just that. Regardless of what any politician says, nothing is going to really “reopen” without a public willing to put themselves into bars, restaurants, shops, and airliners (the original topic of this thread). So even if you believe masks are ineffective (and you’d be wrong), isn’t it worth a little “theatre” if it gets people back into public spaces and the economy up and running?

there's a school now? it was just a club back in my day, and we didn't talk about.

ah prozac see that's where you're wrong. in the united states it IS about the individual. individual choice/personal responsibility/personal freedom to do what you want if you don't feel safe around people without masks then YOU should stay home/not fly/not go to sporting events. in case you haven't noticed my man the whole reason for the lockdown (flatten the curve) has been accomplished. standing by for another made up bull shit goal to justify 30 million people out of work.

Should definitely look at putting a stop to night landings on training sorties. Too much risk.

Time to retire the F-35. Amiright?

Just read a description describing the petty bureaucratic imps trying to increase the scope of their powers at the expense of the Constitution due to Kung flu: The Karenwaffe. I'm probably late to the party in knowing of this one, but I laughed out loud just now reading it.

Man, it is going to be tough as hell for the Aggressors to employ this inside 6' while maintaining their block(s).

I don't think you'd be offered a Zoom interview if they didn't expect it to be the more practical way for some people. A lot of people live/work around immune compromised people, and I doubt they'd want you to risk getting or giving COVID to your loved ones for an interview. Go with your gut, its up to you.

I’ve have a Cherokee 235 and love it. Not a speed demon but being able to haul a family of four, luggage and 7hrs worth of fuel and still takeoff on a hot day is great. Super stable wing, bulletproof O-540 motor. Only gripe is speed. Cost is $800 per year insurance, ~$1,000-1,500 annual + gas/oil. I hanger it for $175 a month as well for a personal t-hanger. Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app

I opted for the Zoom. The MSgt i talked to gave me the option of any of them. He said I'd get a call about specifics later on, but to expect an interview next Thursday. Did you ask how many slots are available? I was surprised by the call at the time and didn't ask...

masks are such bullshit "but it couldn't hurt" lots of things "couldnt hurt" but we dont fucking do them. its about power and control now, NOT public health.

Let’s hope the Chinese only attack during day, vmc conditions.

I ended up buying it, flew it home from Iowa the other week. Insurance $980/year, hangar $230/month, and however much MX ends up costing. Far from the best performer on the airfield but still faster than a J3 Cub, had to keep flaps down for this one to keep up with me.

Wow. So can we all agree the nation has gone full retard embracing tyranny? Or are some of us still pretending the lockdowns and suspension of rights are “necessary?”

And this is what the real truth is. You want him to ruin any chance he has of positive impact for the force for the future. He goes balls to the wall for what and lose any ability to advocate for the service. He's got to fall in line with all kinds of civilian leadership, on top of ensuring he gets buy in from the 3-stars and up that his changes will continue. Are there people here who really believe there'll be mass retirements in protest from the eligible 4-stars over...additional duties, or 1 failed aircraft acquisition? Is it just jr. Capt's on here complaining the Finger's has done nothing but the song changes and the light attack? CSS' have grown, and we've seen more power return to the Sq CC's that have had the balls to use it. If yours hasn't...that's not on Fingers. I've also seen a thawing of the frozen middle we detest at the ops levels...staff is going to take awhile. 2 line PRF's, extended the HPO pole years and come down on the way we're grooming officers, Cyber moved to ACC, and there's been tons of good growth there that came from HAF, changes to our IDE selection and ability to attending/timing, tons of positive changes to the E-side of the house. I've seen the attitude of the USAF change positively since he's taken over.

I’ve heard it said not once, not twice, but thrice by current/previous CSAFs and VCSAFs: ”You have no idea how frustrating and powerless it is to be the CSAF”

Can anyone explain to me why these guys are unwilling to ruffle feathers at that point in their careers? They can't advance beyond their current position, and they're financially secure for the rest of their lives. All of them preach integrity, but not one is willing to fall on his sword (Integrity for you, career advancement for me). The best I can come up with is that these dudes think if they toe the line hard enough, they might get a shot at Chairman of JCS. That's pretty brazen to sacrifice your entire branch of service to maybe get one last promotion before you retire. I'm genuinely curious to hear everyone's thoughts.

Sure is a good gig if you manage to be in the group who decides what that greater good is without the citizenry voting to decide that fairly important question. Would suck to be on the outs with that group.

Not only retention but probably growth. I’ve got airline buddies putting in for the VRRAD to come back on AD.

Really? Last I checked people give up individual freedoms all the time for the “greater good” by joining the military.