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Crenshaw!

Just as many of us are perplexed at how military members could ever support such a monumentally incompetent commander in chief. No, I’m not going to waste my time writing a Medium essay here to outline all the reasons why I think Trump is a dumbass. I don’t care why you like Trump. I’m not going to vote for him because he’s a piece of shit human being, imho, and when invited to rise to the challenge of bringing America through a crisis he failed bigly, again, imho (feel free to disagree and think what you like). I like his Supreme Court justices, sure, so the Machiavelli in me is grateful for that I guess. I also like to own the libs every now and then, but 4 years of this has be ready for a different style. But to me character still matters. A lot. And comparing Biden to Trump.....there’s nothing redeeming for me about Trump. I want to be able to tell my grandkids that I never voted for that guy. Give me Crenshaw or Give me Death.

Absolutely. The first pirate president, and someone who actually can explain their position. And a hero. Landslide victory.

It certainly can be. One of the more difficult flyovers I led was for 2008 Air Force Week in LA. We held over the Rose Bowl. Because of LAX airspace, our initial inbound heading was roughly south, with a pylon turn to the west around downtown IVO East Los Angeles, for a westerly run in. Although the video looks like it is bright, it wasn't. In fact it was post sunset (we had a waiver). The downtown lights were very bright, and the Coliseum lights are pointed down and in, and don't show up until the last portion of the run in. Staying below LA's Class B with the huge amount of lighting in the area added to the difficulty. This was 12 years ago, and yes, GPS existed. But due to the non-linear IP-to-target run, the intricacies of SoCal approach and the potential flex of the Anthem, it was quite dynamic. And we are flying the A-model, not the C-model with whatever bells, whistles and HUD it has. We did extensive route study, timing contingencies, etc... and we trained like it was a "GPS-degraded environment". I suppose we could have laid down 99 waypoints on the curvilinear route we flew... but we didn't. We used a Sectional, LA TAC chart, and some aerial photos. Once the flyover was done, due to LAX congestion, we managed to get sequenced into the LAX traffic flow, did 2 night wing landings, well after sunset, in black jets, to 25L. Everybody involved in the evolution, including an F-16 pilot, TPS graduate, and a lot of high-time instructors, felt a good sense of accomplishment. The intricacies of completing the flyover included getting the formation to EDW, and getting the jets safely on the ground at LAX's FBO. We knew we were going to break a number of rules to get it done, and we got the waivers from HQ so we could do it. ALL OF THAT COORDINATION is part of making it successful... not just the last 10 miles of the run-in. Anyone can scoff doing flyovers if you want. And maybe my geekery combined with the fact I don't drop bombs gives me no "real world relevance". But I've done shitloads over the years and found ways to challenge myself on all of them. And I'm a better pilot for it.

This is not the calculus I’m making here. I’m not holding out for perfect. I’m voting against a fraudster who has driven our body politic into the dirt.

What if we write off that we probably can't realistically push back a Chinese invasion of Taiwan and not try to meet them force on force there because we'd be at a significant disadvantage? Threaten retaliatory strikes on military/industrial/economic capability using TLAMs, conventional TBMs/ICMBs, cyber. Have a large coalition willing to boycott Chinese trade in the event they invade Taiwan. The name of the game is deterrence, caging China so it believes an invasion wouldn't be with the pain we'd inflict. All this assumes Taiwan truly is vital to our interests, and not just posturing. But my gut feeling is that if the only deterrence option on the table is direct force on force to defend Taiwan and just push Chinese forces back into China, that the equation heavily favors China with the home field advantage. Worst case is if it's to get our aircraft carriers involved in conflict, labeled as legitimate military targets, and directly attack strategic US capability, reducing our influence in the region/world

The interesting point is you questioning people on this forum’s service because they don’t share the same political opinion as you. Or how military members/veterans are supposed to support Trump, you know, the guy who skirted service himself due to “bone spurs.” You also said “see you tomorrow” to someone else, assuming all the ballots will be counted immediately after tomorrow. Apparently you’ve never witnessed a Presidential Election where it takes some states days, and possibly weeks, after the close of the polls to count the voters depending on state law. For instance, Colorado state law says that ballots have to be in by 7pm (MST) tomorrow night once the polls close. However, if a voter was notified there was an issue with their ballot, they have up to eight days, nine days this year due to the eight day falling on Veteran’s Day, to correct their ballot to be counted. Many states don’t even allow counting of ballots until after the polls close. https://www.npr.org/2020/11/01/930140373/fact-check-trump-falsely-claims-that-votes-shouldnt-be-counted-after-election-da

It has predicted 4, not 25. You can't retroactively predict events with a statistical model and claim it as evidence of predictive power, that's classic overfitting. Even if Trump wins I doubt it's going to be with a landslide of that size.

Huh? I happen to be a minority and will give you multiple female minorities I would love to have for POTUS (Rice, Haley, etc); I just don’t find someone appealing who whores herself out to married men while attacking her opponents about decency, brags about smoking MJ while putting thousands of blacks in prison while screeching about racism. Try again. Yes..sequestration led to a rise in incidents that cost lives why is that so triggering to some people?

I just submitted my application. Hopefully the high selection numbers the last two years continue. Best of luck to everyone!

I don’t see how he was questioning anyone’s military service- giving him the benefit of the doubt it sounds like he’s just perplexed why military members would vote for Biden; especially since Biden was the VP during the gutting of the military during sequestration which cost many fellow aviator lives. Trump’s bone spurs? Don’t care..what conflict did Biden and Harris serve in? What conflict did Obama serve in? Trump’s policies have been very positive for the national defense of this country. Also most Biden supporters do realize he’s just filler right? His handlers will move him aside ASAP for Kamala who had 4% in the primary in terms of popularity.

Always tough to predict the future. The article mentions some of the differences between then and now, but a huge one is how far left some mainstream portions of the democrat party already are. There is a risk of a lot of damage being done in only 4 years of a Harris administration with Joe Biden as President. Beyond that, is there even a Reagan waiting in the wings? He challenged Ford in the primary and was already establishing himself as a true conservative and leader. I don’t see anyone right now in the Republican Party that could be that person. Another item from that article that I personally think conservatives make a mistake on is having the pro-life/pro-choice debate be a cornerstone of their policy. Most younger conservatives I know are actually pro-choice, and I think many conservative leaning women sometimes get turned off by the heavy pro-life factions of the Republican Party. It will be interesting to see what happens today, or maybe in the next few days and weeks?

Some very good points made in this article. TLDR: Biden winning tomorrow will be a silver lining for the conservative long game. https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/11/republicans-choice-trump-or-2024/ Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app

If Trump wins the “Southern Route,” Pennsylvania is even more key. But much like your map I don’t see him winning Arizona, and I’m 50/50 if he’ll win Georgia or Florida, which if Biden wins one of the five “Southern Route” states, Trump is screwed. But we all know a state could flip at the last second. I think Florida is going to be just as contested as 2000 and that the SCOTUS is going to see another version Bush v. Gore.

If the news/polls end up being “kind of right” I think we get here after the thousands of court cases/appeals. PA could very well be red, but their ballot counting clusterfuck will likely turn it blue. I have a second, more optimistic map for Republicans, but there’s no way in hell I’d put money on it.

He is mentioned in the memoirs of several POWs, including Leo Thorsness (MoH recipient who at one point shared a cell with McCain) , Bud Day, and James Stockdale (also both MoH recipients). They did not speak ill of him then, nor when he ran for President in 2000 or 2008. I'm personally going to take the word of three MoH recipients over "some guy my dad knows whose uncle was a POW", or some swiftboat conspiracy theory website that looks like it was designed for free on geocites in 1997. Throwing spears at the mans grave is pretty classless, imho.

Ok. Since you asked. Woman arrested in Vanderburgh county for pre checking boxes on 400+ ballots https://www.tristatehomepage.com/news/local-news/vanderburgh-county-woman-facing-felony-election-fraud-charge/ Butler county Pennsylvania loses untold number of mail in ballots https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2020/10/28/butler-county-elections-director-says-postal-service-lost-mail-in-ballots/ Ballots stolen from mail boxes and discarded on roadsides in Washington town https://www.foxnews.com/us/ballots-stolen-from-mailboxes-discarded-on-roadsides-in-washington-town Group claims 400,000 ballots sent to residents who moved out of state or died in California https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2020/10/15/nearly-400000-california-ballots-sent-to-people-who-moved-out-of-state-or-died/ Texas officer & poll watcher testifies on 2020 Houston Voting Fraud Using stacks of drivers licenses , (has photos) https://www.newsbreak.com/news/2084295714190/exclusive-texas-poll-watcher-testifies-on-2020-voter-fraud-in-houston-has-photos West Palm Beach residents receive duplicate ballots and ballots for dead relatives https://www.wpbf.com/article/duplicate-ballots-sealed-envelopes-dead-relatives-voters-raise-mail-in-ballot-concerns/34198409 Pennsylvania postal employee on leave and now fired after bags of mail discovered outside of home put out for trash pickup https://www.foxnews.com/us/pennsylvania-postal-worker-on-leave-after-bags-of-undelivered-mail-found-outside-home 25,263 ballots rejected in Colorado primary https://www.cpr.org/2020/10/08/colorado-vote-by-mail-ballots-rejected-signatures/ Double absentee ballots sent to residents in Henrico county https://www.nbc12.com/2020/09/22/double-absentee-ballots-accidentally-sent-some-henrico-voters/ Pa rejects 336,000 duplicate ballot requests 34,000 rejected for other reasons . Many voters request ballots up to 11 times https://www.post-gazette.com/news/politics-state/2020/10/16/pennsylvania-rejected-mail-ballot-applications-duplicates-voters/stories/202010160153 Mecklenburg residents receiving double ballots due to labelling glitch https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/election/article245761310.html San Mateo residents receive multiple ballots https://abc7news.com/mail-in-ballot-california-2020-election-san-mateo-county-double-two-ballots/7006753/ Multiple absentee ballot applications showing up at Flint Michigan homes https://nbc25news.com/news/local/multiple-absentee-ballot-applications-being-sent-to-mid-michigan-homes Florida man arrested for obtaining dead wife's ballot and forging signature to "test the system" https://www.wptv.com/news/state/florida-man-who-tried-to-get-ballot-for-dead-wife-arrested Election officials ask voters to not disinfect their mail in ballots as handfulls have already arrived destroyed and unable to be tabulated https://www.kcra.com/article/election-officials-ask-voters-stop-disinfecting-mail-in-ballots/34336823 400 duplicate ballots sent to local voters in Richmond https://richmond.com/news/state-and-regional/govt-and-politics/roughly-400-local-voters-receive-two-ballots-officials-say-errors-wont-lead-to-double-votes/article_934f11bf-8825-5f2f-8391-8cdbe707cd7a.html Duplicate ballots sent to "some" in North Carolina. How many? Who knows. https://www.wxii12.com/article/duplicate-ballots-sent-to-some-north-carolina-voters/34056922 Placer county residents receiving duplicate ballots https://www.kcra.com/article/thousands-of-second-ballots-mailed-placer-county-voters/34306099 Bay area voters receive multiple ballots https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/bay-area-voters-receive-multiple-ballots-fuel-concern-over-november-election/2378192/ USPS confirms missing ballots, never made it to residents of Seminole county. How many? Who knows https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2020/10/06/usps-confirms-missing-ballots-but-doesnt-have-any-additional-information/ Board of elections resends 99,000+ ballots in Brooklyn . Officials worry numerous originals already filled out and sent off https://nypost.com/2020/10/06/board-of-elections-resends-99k-ballots-in-brooklyn-amid-snafu 50,000 ballots in Ohio sent to wrong addresses https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/09/ohio-county-wrong-ballots-428350 500,000 ballots in Virginia labelled with wrong return address https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/verify/verify-wrong-mail-in-ballots-fairfax-virginia/65-94c4847c-63fb-4a93-bac5-9bb45df00a8d Glitch sends duplicate ballots in pittsburg Allegheny county https://www.wesa.fm/post/glitch-sends-duplicate-ballots-voters-system-prevents-double-voting-county-says#stream/0 Glitch sends duplicate ballots to Needham town residents https://needham.wickedlocal.com/news/20200818/needham-town-clerk-several-voters-received-duplicate-ballot-after-possible-glitch Detroit elections, where 72% of absentee votes do not match registered voters https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2020/08/20/benson-asked-investigate-detroit-perfect-storm-voting-problems/5616629002/ 80,000 ballots dissappeared in baltimore https://www.baltimoresun.com/politics/bs-md-voting-snafu-update-20180625-story.html New York voting official warns people will use dead people to vote, and a few have https://www.newsweek.com/mail-voting-ballots-deceased-1531481 Michigan secretary misprinted military absentee ballots . 400 already issued https://www.mlive.com/public-interest/2020/09/president-trump-goes-after-michigan-secretary-of-state-again-over-ballot-misprint.html Mail in ballots found in road ditch in Wisconsin https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/23/mailed-in-ballots-found-tossed-in-wisconsin-ditch/ 4 officials arrested in ballot harvesting scheme https://www.kltv.com/2020/09/24/gregg-county-commissioner-others-arrested-alleged-vote-harvesting-scheme/ 9 military mail in ballots thrown in dumpster in PA https://www.wfmz.com/news/area/poconos-coal/fbi-psp-probing-9-discarded-ballots-in-luzerne-county/article_249405da-fea4-11ea-a8d7-b7faa419550f.html 134 felony voter fraud charges announced in Dem primary https://www.foxnews.com/politics/texas-attorney-general-ken-paxton-voter-fraud New Yorkers receiving ballots with wrong names and adresses https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/518682-new-yorkers-report-receiving-ballots-with-wrong-name-voter-addresses Queens voters receiving military ballots https://nypost.com/2020/09/28/nyc-voters-wrongly-getting-mail-in-ballots-marked-for-military-use/ Sun sentinel detailing Florida voting fraud https://www.sun-sentinel.com/opinion/commentary/fl-op-com-menge-mail-in-ballots-fraud-florida-20200416-hanmbneuendpbaftyktpactlga-story.html Ballot harvesting scam exposed in minneapolis https://nypost.com/2020/09/29/minneapolis-police-probing-alleged-ballot-harvesting-claims/ 1 in 4 " A Quarter" of election officials quit due to the new election law and chaos of mail in ballots https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/mail-ballot-law-pennsylvania-has-driven-out-nearly-quarter-state-n1240504 Texas Official arrested on felony election fraud charges https://www.newsweek.com/texas-official-arrested-felony-election-fraud-charges-could-face-99-year-sentence-1534183 Patterson city council official arrested along with 4 others in ballot fraud scheme https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/politics/paterson-city-council-vice-president-among-4-charged-with-voting-fraud-in-may-special-election-nj-ag/2484797/ Yes America! Plenty of voter fraud https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/yes-america-there-voter-fraud-these-recent-cases-prove-it D.C voters receiving ballots for ex residents with some receiving up to 5 multiple ballots https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dc-voters-are-being-sent-mail-in-ballots-for-ex-residents Numerous reports of people going door to door illegally collecting ballots https://www.newsweek.com/ballot-vote-maryland-collect-anne-arundel-1535901 Project Veritas uncovers ballot fraud in San Antonio . 7,000 ballots compromised , likely up to 14,000 https://www.expressnews.com/news/politics/texas_legislature/article/Project-Veritas-activists-release-San-Antonio-15679739.php Orono, Maine Woman charged for casting roommates ballot https://bangordailynews.com/2020/10/27/politics/orono-woman-charged-with-voter-fraud-after-allegedly-casting-former-roommates-ballot/ Man Arrested in Luzerne county for trying to cast ballot for dead Wife https://www.wnep.com/article/news/local/luzerne-county/man-arrested-for-voter-fraud-in-luzerne-county/523-7fc4fd2f-9105-47e7-a510-2b5ff176ab2c Postal Carrier in Miami arrested and charged with stealing ballots and gift cards https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/postal-carrier-accused-stealing-mail-ballot-miami-73713450 Poll worker in Germantown maryland caught filling out / fixing ballots (Video) https://youtu.be/hJexWG7TJQI https://www.financialsurvivalnetwork.com/2020/10/voter-fraud-caught-on-camera-poll-worker-appears-to-write-on-ballot/ Ballot box containing ballots set on fire from the inside in Baldwin Park california https://youtu.be/Sey68e3kbWM 300 Pounds of mail including ballots found in dumpster in New Jersey https://mb.ntd.com/piles-of-mail-including-ballots-found-in-dumpster-in-new-jersey_514529.html 6 USPS postal mail boxes tampered with in Richmond VA https://www.localdvm.com/news/virginia/mail-collection-boxes-tampered-with-at-6-usps-locations-across-central-virginia c/ 2,100 residents in woodland hills receive faulty ballots https://www.kcra.com/article/2100-los-angeles-county-voters-receive-faulty-ballots/34289550 5,500 sample ballots sent in New Hampshire not labeled as "sample" leads many to believe they are legit election ballots https://www.wmur.com/article/unlabeled-sample-absentee-ballots-new-hampshire/34394841 1,500 ballots in Kansas not counted in primary https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/kansas/articles/2020-09-25/1-500-mail-ballots-arrived-too-late-to-count-in-kansas Ballot printing error in sanpete Utah leaves 13,000 ballots with no where to put signature https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/10/14/ballot-printing-error/ Alaska, voter mistakes put many ballots on track for rejection 3 weeks out https://www.adn.com/politics/2020/10/15/voter-mistakes-put-many-mail-in-ballots-on-track-for-rejection-3-weeks-before-election-day/ Ballots found damaged and vandalized in Billings Montana https://billingsgazette.com/news/local/billings-residents-report-missing-vandalized-ballots/article_7ccc48bf-8b31-55a0-b264-eca5a4e877b7.html USPS Bins with 112 ballots found in dumpster in louisville Kentucky https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/over-100-undelivered-absentee-ballots-found-discarded-in-dumpster 60,000 ballots in Pennsylvania unaccounted for. https://www.newsweek.com/pennsylvania-mail-ballots-delayed-25-days-until-election-1537824 Landlord in Las vegas received 18 ballots for Tennant's he's never had https://www.trendsmap.com/twitter/tweet/1316833363169284104 Tiktok video allegedly showing someone filling out multiple ballots in California https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2020/10/13/eric-trump-says-the-campaign-will-be-taking-immediate-legal-action-over-a-tiktok-video-allegedly-showing-a-person-filling-out-multiple-ballots/ Utah man finds ballots in dumpster https://news/local-news/utah-man-concerned-about-finding-voters-ballots-in-dumpster 29,000 incorrect ballots sent out in Philly due to mapping error https://nypost.com/2020/10/15/error-leads-to-30k-pa-voters-receiving-incorrect-ballots/ Election workers swamped with requests for multiple absentee ballots from "same people" https://www.13newsnow.com/amp/article/news/politics/elections/election-workers-swamped-multiple-absentee-ballot-requests-same-people/275-8dc73fb0-a9e4-424b-a019-fda28130b517 Ballots for deceased voter raises concern in L.a county https://www.dailynews.com/ballot-for-deceased-voter-raises-concerns-about-l-a-county-election-integrity Kern country voter receives 3 ballots https://bakersfieldnow.com/newsletter-daily/duplicate-ballot-confusion-kern-county-voter-receives-three-ballots-for-nov-3-election 1000 duplicate ballots sent in Fairfax county https://wjla.com/news/local/voters-alert-7-on-your-side-after-receiving-duplicate-mail-in-ballots Discarded mail in ballots found dumped in Joshua tree park in San bernadino CA https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2020/10/08/mail-including-voter-ballots-found-discarded-twentynine-palms-joshua-tree/ Some Ohio Residents report recieving damaged ballots https://www.statenews.org/post/some-ohio-voters-report-receiving-damaged-ballots Thief caught on camera stealing ballots from mail boxes https://streamable.com/z94se1 Hall county nebraska. 21 residents receive duplicate ballots https://nebraska.tv/news/hall-county-issues-21-duplicate-ballots Texas mayoral candidate arrested for election fraud, charged with over 100 counts https://www.texastribune.org/2020/10/08/voting-fraud-arrest-carrollton/ 39 Colorado counties have more voters than people, is now being sued https://www.wnd.com/2020/10/colorado-sued-voters-people/ USPS Employee arrested for dumping mail which included 99 ballots https://www.radio.com/1010wins/news/usps-mail-carrier-arrested-for-dumping-election-ballots 19 illegals busted voting in 2016. 2 re entered n re voted in this year's primary https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/19-foreign-nationals-indicted-illegally-voting-2016-elections 1000 people voted twice in georgia https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/georgia-official-claims-1-000-people-illegally-voted-twice-in-primaries/ar-BB18PGvz?li=BB141NW3 Mail truck catches fire destroying thousands of ballots https://amp.dailyrecord.com/amp/3257291001 200,000 ballots sent to wrong addresses in nevada https://ktrh.iheart.com/featured/michael-berry/content/2020-08-10-more-than-200000-ballots-in-nevada-mailed-to-the-wrong-addresses/ Entire NJ election called a do over due to ballot fraud https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/paterson-press/2020/08/11/paterson-nj-election-rivals-agree-do-over-council-election/3343160001/ New jersey man votes 3 times https://patch.com/new-hampshire/concord-nh/new-hampshire-man-arrested-vote-fraud-charge Kansas Republican + 4 others charged in ballot fraud https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/kansas-republican-charged-with-three-felonies-in-voter-fraud-investigation/2020/07/14/7d0fe8c2-c629-11ea-b037-f9711f89ee46_story.html 200,000 purged from rolls in New york https://www.cityandstateny.com/articles/politics/campaigns-elections/new-york-city-purged-voters-2016-it-wasnt-mistake.html Deceased cat receives ballot https://apnews.com/fbcec393dc652a9ccdb2cc8aacb15895 NY election disaster, over a month to count ballots , ballots lost n desytoyed https://www.wsj.com/articles/new-yorks-mail-vote-disaster-11595286912 L.A. Man charged for voting in 3 elections using his dead mother https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-08-18/la-county-man-accused-of-voting-in-three-elections-as-his-dead-mother 10s of thousands of ballots thrown out in primary https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/tens-of-thousands-of-mail-ballots-have-been-tossed-out-in-this-years-primaries-what-will-happen-in-november/2020/07/16/fa5d7e96-c527-11ea-b037-f9711f89ee46_story.html 100,000 ballots thrown out in California https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2020/0714/Why-California-threw-out-100-000-mail-in-primary-ballots 23,000 ballots thrown out in Wisconsin https://www.apmreports.org/story/2020/07/23/wisconsin-absentee-ballot-rejections Thousands of ballots thown out due to tardiness https://www.npr.org/2020/07/13/889751095/signed-sealed-undelivered-thousands-of-mail-in-ballots-rejected-for-tardiness Mail in ballot experiment fails with lost , late n damaged ballots. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-19-vote-by-mail-ballot-counted-election/ Woman arrested forging ballots in plymouth https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/plymouth-township-woman-charged-with-election-law-forgery-over-absentee-voter-ballot As the new York times claims ballots are secure in 2020. in 2012 they wrote ballots were extremely open to fraud , mistakes and issues https://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/07/us/politics/as-more-vote-by-mail-faulty-ballots-could-impact-elections.html (Study estimate)28,000,000 ballots lost in last 3 elections https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/04/24/28_million_mail-in_ballots_went_missing_in_last_four_elections_143033.html Postal worker arrested for changing party affiliation on ballots https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/506869-postal-worker-pleads-guilty-to-election-fraud-after-changing 18,000 ballots not counted in Florida's primary https://www.tampabay.com/news/health/2020/06/29/more-than-18000-mail-ballots-not-counted-in-floridas-march-presidential-preference-primary/ 3 Months later it's 35,000 ballots not counted in Florida's primary https://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2020/09/17/more-than-35-000-mail-in-ballots-were-rejected-in-florida-primary-1317327 Thosands of ballots left on floor of building in North jersey https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/passaic/paterson/2020/08/14/paterson-nj-election-ballots-were-left-floor-post-office-says/5582951002/ Investigation as piles of mail found dumped in parking lot in california https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/515442-investigation-underway-after-bags-of-mail-found-dumped-in-los-angeles 1.6 million more voters than registered in 19 california counties, L.A has 117% voter registration https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/01/07/five_states_face_federal_lawsuit_over_inaccurate_voter_registrations__142089.html

Fake news. This example is clearly systemically biased and false. The only way to get 7 garbage attack plans out of a group of fighter pilots would be to have a diverse group consisting of 1 Hog driver, 1 Viper driver, 1 fat Amy "driver" and 7 Mudhen crew.

The entire point of The Enlightenment was that logic and reason could be used to transcend individual human experiences and thus individuals could have empathy for that which we did not experience ourselves. So, it doesn't require a person of another gender, another race, another [insert characteristic here] to be present for any other human to comprehend, understand, and empathize with their perspective and/or lived experiences. You don't actually have to feel childbirth to understand what it is like. You don't have to be a "POC" to understand the experience of what it must be like, whatever that is supposed to mean. If you want to argue that people of different *cultures* bring different perspectives to the table, that's perfectly valid...but to say that immutable characteristics are responsible for (or an avatar for) differences in thought and character is precisely the kind of "logic" that was used to undergird actual tribalism (or racism, if you'd rather frame it that way) for hundreds (thousands?) of years. No two humans are alike, regardless of immutable characteristics, so Enlightenment logic on the issue is a truism for all humans to be able to form social groups. People of the same immutable characteristics can have a widely divergent set of experiences, beliefs, and character, just as people of a wide variety of immutable characteristics can all believe in the same orthodoxy. Diversity of immutable characteristics is not an avatar for diversity of perspectives, simply put.

Again, I agree that diversity of thought is vital...but that's not what any of this is about, and that's not what my comment was about that you responded to originally. You're sidestepping the larger issue, that the AF's focus on diversity of immutable human characteristics (which is the opposite of the teamwork concept of us all adopting the identity of "Airman") has literally zero to do with the cognitive diversity, or diversity of thought, that you're talking about. Even worse is the belief that must exist to support the idea, that immutable human characteristics are an avatar for an individual's thoughts, beliefs, character, or abilities. If the USAF wants to have a diversity of immutable characteristics in the crew force, for whatever social goal they seek, that's fine by me. What's objectionable is when that objective is sold as improving the ability to accomplish the mission (e.g. "diversity is our strength")...again, a statement which has never been put to a falsification test, and won't be because it exists to support an ideological perspective that has already decided what is "good."

You guys believe MSM and the polls way too much. Guess their tactics are working though. On a military forum where many see combat, people think and want Biden to win. Now that is an interesting data point.

Don't let perfect be the enemy of good.

Sequestration cost aviator lives? Go on. I’m sure having a minority woman as POTUS scares the shit out of you hilfuck Texas.