That’s fair. I completely agree that the Obama admin lied about the things you’re accusing them of. What else? You claim I need self-reflection? Here’s some reflection on promises kept vs not. Not an apples to apples comparison on lies, but the best I could do to attempt to show something that wouldn’t be claimed as liberal media.
https://guides.libs.uga.edu/factchecknews - Showing it is a non-partisan fact-checker
Obamameter- https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/?ruling=true
Trump-o-meter- https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer/?ruling=true
By sheer volume alone, Obama broke 5x more promises, but he also fulfilled 10x more and had some kind of compromise on 7x more promises than Trump. Using this scale you could say he lied about way more I guess, so I’ll give you that. You’d also have to recognize that he accomplished way more if we’re using this as any kind of metric. This hurts to see for me because I was not a fan of Obama either.
James P. Pfiffner, VN vet, military scholar, solid, respectable dude and expert in this field wrote a paper talking about this (https://pfiffner.gmu.edu/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Pfiffner-The-Lies-of-Donald-Trump-A-Taxonomy.pdf) In it he says something we all agree on, all presidents lie. He also goes on to show that Trump does it more than any previous president, and not just in quantity, but the level of serious topics about which he lies is more egregious than past presidents. This isn’t me (someone who detests democrats as much as, maybe more than republicans) just trying to hide my bias against Trump, this is me attacking what people on the right continue to excuse, apologize for and rationalize as Trump’s lies. People say the media is “mean” and “unfair” to Trump. I’ll agree that they hold his feet to the fire more, and blow things out of context more than they have for previous presidents, but only after Trump proved he was willing to have a very, very loose relationship with the truth. He started lying, name calling and straight-up making bogus statements before he even announced his candidacy. Only then did the media start to treat him like a hostile witness.
https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/politics/2020/08/28/why-do-fact-checkers-find-more-false-statements-from-trump-than-biden/42343935/ (media bias, right of center https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/columbus-dispatch/ ) Occam’s razor says the simplest explanation is often the right explanation. Trump simply lies way more than most other presidents. (edited to remove some hyperbole)
Completely agree with you that all politicians lie, it’s like they have a disease or something. Hence why I said our country needs a reset on all politicians from all parties. Set up some new rules, and hold them accountable.
TLDR/ People claiming Trump was on the same level as any president before him are hiding under a rock from the mountains of evidence demonstrating otherwise. All politicians lie, Trump just does it on a scale that is simply way more than most other politicians. His lies hurt not only our country on the world stage, but they hurt democracy as well.
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