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They’re still broke due to hydro at Ramstein. Original ETIC was parts plus 45 years.

You mean like Polio? For things like measles, you have to hit ~94% and somehow we did that back when people trusted science. Source: 1) https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/herd-immunity-and-coronavirus/art-20486808 First of all, Pfizer and Moderna are the only approved vaccines, so let's focus on those. We know for sure that, when it comes to COVID, it's way better than not being vaccinated at all (up to 95% effective) and that it has been proven to significantly reduce the severity of COVID infections when they do happen (almost all cases after vaccination are mild). Source: 2) https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20201118005595/en/ It's not about you or me. It's never been about you or me. It's about the herd. While you guys love to quote death rates in a vacuum - and death rates are important- you have to know the assumptions. The current assumptions are that you get admitted to get care. This literally isn't true as of this week in highly populated parts of America. Without the ability to get in hospitals due to exponentially rising cases, folks that could have been cared for are going to die. Also, it's kind of funny to see that some of you literally last week pulled BS sources out that showed that we wouldn't have ICU capacity problems (you took overall US capacity in a vacuum or cherrypicked examples) and now they are manifesting in our most populated areas in America. Sources: 3) https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20201218/covid-has-southern-california-icu-capacity-at-zero 4) https://abc7.com/health/what-happens-when-ca-icu-capacity-reaches-0%/8879527/ Also, why don't you all ever talk about how the hospitalization rate for COVID is significantly less biased towards old people when compared to the death rate? Younger people actually have a much higher, real chance of being admitted to the hospital and/or icu than death rates lead you to believe. For example, let's compare 30-39 year olds to 65-74 year olds. The average COVID patient who is 30-39 years old is on the order of 22.5 times less likely to die than a 65-74 year old. But they are only 2.5 times less likely to be hospitalized. Sources: 5) https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/downloads/covid-data/hospitalization-death-by-age.pdf 6) https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/COVIDNet/COVID19_3.html So what? Normal average aged people have no real chance of hospitalization though, right? Wrong. A predictor was created using data from a cohort of studies to tell you the relative likelihood of hospitalization based on your age, bmi, race, gender, etc. Spoilers, it's greater than you think. For example, a 40 year old male with a healthy BMI who is white statistically has a 3.6% chance to be hospitalized from COVID-19. Sources: 7) https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0237419 😎https://riskcalc.org/COVID19Hospitalization/ Who cares about hospitalizations though? ICU admission is what matters, and that's probably not that bad, right? Wrong. Studies have shown that, when you take the population as a whole, generally ~24% of all COVID cases are admitted to the ICU. And that's not just old people, it's everyone. For example, out of the hospitalized young people aged 18-34, 21% ended up requiring ICU care. Look at the other age groups and you'll see the same trend. Source: 9) https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2770542 Put it all together, and the hospitalization and ICU admission rate for 30-39 year olds is on the order of 3% and 0.8% respectively. For 40-49 year olds it's on the order of 5% and 1.5%. Unfortunately, these aren't just trivial numbers, although we all wish they were. When you look at 65+, you get to terribly high requirements when it comes down to hospitalization and ICU admission rates. When a portion of society takes hospital capacity away because they go to strip clubs to protest "liberty," you end up making it literally impossible for numerous people to get life-saving care: My hot take: If cases don't start to go down immediately, we are going to max out America's medical system from coast to coast. With this lack of access to care, significant amounts of people will die of treatable diseases - not just COVID. I mean, we've already had literally as many excess deaths this year as we did combat losses in WWII, so I guess this probably will fall on deaf ears. But no one's asking for permanent lockdowns or microchips or any changes to life that are long-lasting. Society is asking for you to be on the team that bands together for probably on the order of one year to take precautions, limit the spread, get vaccinated, and get through this. No one chose to have a worldwide pandemic that would unduly stress the entirety of the global human medical system. Everyone wants to get back to normal, and the only way to do that is to trust science and work as a team. Get on the team.

Well you demonstrated in your previous comment that you haven't been or known legitimately poor people or their way of life. Your only way to "relate" to the topic at hand was to tell us a story of how you hired some poor people once to work on your property, and they probably had licenses because they drove a car. It's an amazingly tone-deaf story. The fact of the matter is the republican party is dieing and the only way they can remain relevant is to gerrymander and raise barriers to voters to drive down participation. If you actually cared about securing our elections you would have passed any of the bills sent to McConnell over the last several years to provide funding to secure our systems, or working to get rid of voting machines with no auditable paper trail, etc. But you don't, you only care about chipping away at the voter base and trying to turn over legitimate votes by dubious lawsuits.

The enemy’s gate is always down.

Here let me translate: “My argument is pretty weak and I’m really quibbing over finding a solution to a problem that only had a small amount of documented verified claims in the past 20 years. Here’s an emotionally charged comment that has nothing to do to support my argument.” Oh, and before you ask, I went to Georgetown for grad school, since I guess you find that important.

nice try, china england. 🍻

My point stands in spite of the wild rabbit hole you went down. At no point did I say everything is wrong because I haven’t seen it. I simply said I have to question the validity of what you said because it wasn’t representative of my experience. You are the one who passed your earlier comment off as if it were a fact. If you didn’t check that fact, why should I believe you check any of your facts? And your rape claim comparison is beyond ridiculous. Whole argument is stupid anymore. You guys keep claiming crap with little credible evidence. It’s been rejected by every court out there, regardless of their political leaning. The election didn’t go your way, so like a lot of idiot democrats 4 years ago, you’re all crying that you must have been cheated. Accept it already, and stop crying. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Can I Sue?

No evidence of conspiracy to commit fraud on any scale. No evidence of fraud outside historical norms, which happens for both parties, AKA little that doesn't impact elections. Oh, and it gets investigated and prosecuted. Trumpists - "Nope, gotta burn it all down and make every state the same." Yet you guys still claiming individually you support the "Party of states rights, and the Constitution?" Did you think the TX lawsuit was a good idea too? And...you're willing to trust a signature on a absentee/mail-in-ballot? Holy dumb-shit rationalization Batman. Like I said before, get involved locally if you want to change things. Stay the fuck away from my State with your wasted ideas. We have mail in voting...it worked fine. Sounds like the same bullshit I heard about restricting Airmen because they COULD do something that makes the AF look bad. You know, the shit we all bitch about? The sand in your vag should be a pearl by now for you to wear to your next Q-anon dance party.

https://data.ntsb.gov/Docket?ProjectID=100356 The NTSB released a docket on the accident a few days ago. Credit to the CT ANG crew chief. He saved 3 or 4 lives according to his statement and the others. A true hero. The PAX statements are damning - the Collings Foundation will cease to exist when this is all over. They'll have to liquidate everything and I don't think they'll come close to paying the lawsuits they are going to face.

You could try the 3rd Military Airlift Squadron group...closed group, but maybe message the moderator. Think they used to fly SOLL II when the C-5 did it, lots of old timers there.

I grew up in a blend between rural and suburbs. I won't go back. While self sufficiency is great and I certainly appreciate the skills I got having to be self dependent, the fact is rural life is extraordinarily isolating; and human beings are meant to be social creatures. People just aren't motivated to drive 30 minutes out to your house to hang out with you. Making a 30 minute drive to town to hang out with other people is a struggle and eliminates certain activities (read alcohol) from enjoyment. No neighbors, no community, nothing to do. Its honestly boring to me. I guess the point is, its really just what you prefer. I love being able to walk out my front door and simply walk to restaurants, bars, nightclubs, etc... and never have to worry about getting into car. I love having a 10 minute commute (if that). I love how my neighbors just mingle on the rooftop balconies and chat for hours while sipping a beer. I love that when I call off work sick and can't leave the house neighbors bring me by soup, or magazines. When you have some self sufficiency sills, this helps even more as neighbors learn they can ask you for advice if they want to patch a wall, or retile a floor. I think everyone has the cabin in the woods dream, with the cozy fire, and not a neighbor in sight for miles. For me though, that's an awesome vacation. Wouldn't want to live that lifestyle.

Hell yeah brother, your wife loves strip clubs!

I bet there is a C-5 facebook group with old timers in it.

Okay that's a sampling (n 916) of the 150M or so voters. I understand how stats work a little and I don't know if you can just post a poll from NPR to put this to rest. My personal opinion is that the alleged rampant fraud wasn't in every state but the ones that it was in was enough to overturn the will of the people in those states. A lot of Americans feel the same way. The coordinated radio silence and censorship on the MSM and social media platforms along with big tech (Google, big tech) should be cause for alarm for ALL Americans. Regardless of ideology or background or politics. Of course I think everyone is on the same page with the issue here not being about the candidates, but about a free and fair and open election. Lots of people are arguing that that happened, and I truly think it did in a lot of states. IF however there was enough fraud to overturn the will of the American citizen in some states then I can't understand why everyone wouldn't be on board with getting to the bottom of this. IF that was the case and it was indeed enough to overturn the results of the election then I think that probably marks a point of no return for our republic. Not a huge fan of politics and the only reason this is on my radar at all is because I have in-laws that migrated here from the USSR back in the 1980's who lived it. Their perspective is a unique one that probably few people on this message board have - and only recently have I begun to pay more attention to what they are saying is going on in America. I'm sure some of you guys have been to the museums in the old Soviet Bloc countries and to think that that would be impossible to happen here is pretty naive. It doesn't happen overnight, but there certainly gets to be a point where it's too late to go back. I really hope I am wrong about all of this. I enjoying BSing about flying with all you nerds much more than talking politics.

Like PowerPoint? You're taking a weak sauce pass because of PowerPoint? Was it from scientists that understand biochemistry, how they manufacture mRNA, and how each vaccine mechanism works? As for duration, how long does you body keep antibody memory for tetanus? Or typhoid? Next, effectiveness in trials were in the 95% range, which puts it at the top of the vaccine list of effectiveness. So yes, in this instance, it is the silver bullet. All the other bullets are useless. My point here, do some of your own research. I did. For one, the mRNA approach is something that was talked about when I was in college and will be a true change in modern medicine. "RNA is required for protein synthesis, does not integrate into the genome, is transiently expressed, is metabolized and eliminated by the natural mechanisms of the body and is therefore considered safe." mRNA vaccines were already developed for Zika and rabies, but those diseases are mostly in check with other vaccines or low-rate infections, i.e., no urgency to market, so their trails were low priority. But they laid the foundation and technology to quickly develop the COVID vaccines. Anyone here that had the Anthrax vaccine can attest to some of the adverse effects. I will wager that the mRNA vaccine adverse effects will likely pale in comparison. PS, I my undegrad degree is biochem, so I have a curiosity about how they did it. Move over CRISPR, mRNA is whizzing by on the left.

You’re right, we should implement a massive overhaul, and spend a ton of money, to change all of the state laws who don’t conduct ID verification when voting due to the 1,300 actual documented cases of voter fraud in the 20-years. Fuck outta here.

Man, you guys are ridiculous. “Because I’ve never personally seen X” is an incredibly stupid way to make a case. This thread (and elsewhere) is full of this bullshit notion; how about you guys acknowledge a shitload of things exist, occur, etc. in ways you haven’t personally experienced because such a thing would be impossible, as you haven’t lived in every square inch of the world, the U.S., etc. Directly to your specific point on this subject, here’s a decent overview: https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/voter-id.aspx My personal experience - I’ve voted in three states that don’t require a photo ID. In one of those states there is literally nothing done beyond verifying the name I stated is on the registered voter list (checked at the time by the volunteer sitting at the check in table). Yeah, it happened...in the last 3 elections I’ve voted in (local/state and federal). Parting shot to emphasize the point - do you disbelieve one of your airman’s claims of rape because you’ve never experienced it or seen it happen first hand? Yeah, that’s exactly how stupid your above comment comes off. And even worse, you’re not the only one in this camp.

Yeah man, those dumb poor black folk caint get themselves no ID. And you said "largely democratic" who can't get food on the table if they have to get an ID?

Vandy is winless this season, was scoreless this game, yet their loss is due to a kicker who was on the field for 1 play? Matt Walsh is a joke.

Is it hand cranked?

How about the profound silence of increasing the concealed carry on base? The Navy awarded those that responded and talked about how they ran unarmed toward an armed shooter. Should that not have caused them to think "why did our sailors have to run unarmed towards an armed shooter?" I fly with a 20mm gun that shoots 100 rounds a minute and live bombs going to the range. I'm trusted not to go crazy and go bomb or strafe the base and/or the nearby city, but can't be trusted with a concealed pistol before or after the flight.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/video-clearly-shows-what-liberals-actually-think-chase-stephens