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The Illuminati doesn’t believe in teaching people to use video editing software… They contract out to the Lizard people for that stuff. Deep State! Seriously, now anybody that was telling people “I heard from a friend” needs to be publicly pilloried. The last thing the internet needs is more “truthful” bullshit. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

No Vaccine comments on this PLAT vid. https://streamable.com/5w5tz0

Humans are prone to conspiracy theories. Even more so when they align with views that would bring them kudos in their tribe.

Brother...you have not been paying attention. The Biden administration has actually made this a strategy...THEIR Strategy. I am NOT trying to be flippant on a web forum. I would invite you to read a paper that came out of CSBA called Deterrence by Detection. It did not get a lot of traction under Trump but for some reason Biden's folks have latched on to it. Very long story short, this paper was published in 2020 and on the surface is operational concept to put a large network of long endurance RPAs in key areas to watch China and Russia, then use the constant flow of information and intel to shape our adversaries in public. Think back to our withdrawal form Afghanistan and how they answered questions about continuing the fight and how it would impact our ability to fight. The answer was "over the horizon". The Ivy League mushmellows in the BIden administration shaping DoD policy have decided this concept is the answer to all our problems and they are FUNDING it as a strategy (there is an RFI on the street right now). A couple of key statements that show how they are building the case. “Deterrence by detection,” based upon the idea that our adversaries are less likely to commit opportunistic acts of aggres-sion if they know they are being watched constantly and that their actions can be publicized widely." Follow on DoD and policy articles have referenced the strategy, they believe they can and I quote "SHAME" Putin and Xi Jinping into stopping a certain behavior. Another thought piece went as far as to say that using this approach we could cohere China and Russia in to "cow to our demands" They point to the U.S. releasing sources and methods in the past to achieve these effect. in the 60's the U. S. government publicly released highly classified U-2 reconnaissance photographs to demonstrate that the Russians had missiles in Cuba. They reference Colin Powell presenting pictures and voice intercepts of the Iraqis talking about mobile WMD labs leading up to Gulf War II. The also discuss the United States releasing satellite and other intel on Iran...nuke facilities and actions on the oil platforms. My assessment and just an opinion, they are taking a risk averse tactical view and are willing to disclose sources, methods and technology to achieve political goals that are probably unachievable as our top two adversaries are not as vulnerable to the press as a free nation like America is. If you listen closely we are already signalling we know what Putin is doing with a false flag operation and a video. We likely have the video and they are trying to get the word out...will it stop Putin?

Well that’s just not true: Once reporters published a report on CURVEBALL the Bush administration released intelligence validating his role. True, many aspects of this remain classified to protect aspects of the intelligence apparatus, which makes sense. But it turns out you can release enough information about “sources and methods” to allow critical thought on the conclusions. For those who don’t know, intel from CURVEBALL was key in domestic legitimacy of the Iraq war and it was all made up by a guy who wanted us to start the Iraq war. Of note, German intel said exactly that and we all told them to shut up. Consider what a total disaster the Iraq war was for our nation. Think about how much it hurt international credibility, think about how Afghanistan could have been different had we focused there instead of had our bandwidth absorbed by Iraq, consider the rise of Isis, all the people killed there since 03. The magnitude of the terrible strategic decision to invade Iraq in 2003 using false assumptions about their WMD threat is almost incalculable. It was an intel fuck up of colossal proportions. And it could have been avoided had we exposed our sources and methods earlier…. because we ended up exposing them anyway. You are a smart dude but if you start with a false assumption you’ll arrive at a wrong conclusion. You assume the government never exposes sources and methods then follow that logic train to a place where society must remain ignorant of facts & trust experts running this process who are insulated from the consequences of their actions. False. That isn’t true and it doesn’t work. Fun and relevant Thomas Sowell quote: It’s hard to imagine a more stupid or dangerous way to make decisions than leaving them to people who suffer no consequence for the results. Stop trusting people who aren’t accountable. The experts have lied and been wrong in the recent past. Before we order my kids to war (which is possible despite your protestations) I want some public QC on the intel.

Prozac, when people talk about the deep state they aren't discussing global cabal or conspiracy. That is something the democrats inferred was meant. Most people referring to the deep state are discussing endemic incompetence, cognitive biases and massive group think to uphold a status quo that is no longer healthy for our country. It is the enormous momentum behind government employees who can not or will not understand that the administration is trying to change direction and so they press on what they were doing with complete disregard for the national strategy.

Truth data, I run a 1,000 acre wheat farm as a side gig…after reading you guys here I just contacted my fertilizer guy for a quote and the price last year for fertilizer per acre cost me $63, this year it’ll be $120 at current rates. Never seen anything like it. Of course this will drive up prices and be passed to the consumers.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/44180/video-supposedly-showing-harrowing-f-35-crash-aboard-uss-carl-vinson-leaked

See this thread: You might have luck applying through the civilian path to wings program. My understanding is that the Army's FW qual doesn't have sufficient aerobatic work, but I'm not sure of the specifics. Pretty sure you'll need to go to UPT if you want to fly fixed wing, though.

Well, I was saying "hello" to a bro and trying not to let the folks back on the crowdline see me do it. Still can't act a fool and make the organization look bad.

Ok fine. I should’ve said the US government doesn’t TYPICALLY divulge sources & methods. Better? I’m still confused at what your overall concern is. You’ve stated that you want hard information prior to committing blood and treasure. But we’re not exactly talking about blood and treasure here. It is accepted that, if he wants to, Putin can waltz into Kiev in as little as 48 hrs. We, along with NATO would like do discredit HIS methods before he implements them and deter the whole thing because that’s one way a free Ukraine survives. Is that so hard to get behind? Or are you worried that we are sullying Putin’s image by releasing potentially false intel about his intentions?

@Bennynova, anything to say for yourself?

Cool - let's call it here. Points made and all good.

Probably depends on region, I have been very pleasantly surprised and have received all of my post military medical care on base. I go off base for Dental (obviously), and was going off base for yearly eye exams. Recently had a small procedure on one eye and now they want me to do yearly exams on base.

Get some HH-60 drivers to fly that thing. They’re generally familiar with most SOF mission sets, in particular CSAR,CAS and SCAR. Plus, Rolling landings/takeoffs in a HH-60 are extremely similar to tail dragger pitch pictures and airspeed envelopes and something they train to often. … and obviously austere field ops.

Those were both very good reads, thanks for posting. It's interesting (in a sad sort of way) to see the long term impacts of what I view as a pretty relentless drive post WWII to tamp down German nationalism. Even considering Adenauer and Brandt's focus on German unity and anti-communist stances, the generational echoes of Germany's actions in WWII and the resulting rejection of any sense of national pride and/or pride in the military are seriously impacting Germany's current actions.

The US government is not going to divulge sources and methods when it comes to intelligence gathering. It never has and it never will. I would think the reasons for that would be obvious to almost everyone on this forum. The “proof” will be when Putin makes his moves & the world sees his shenanigans for what they are. Help me understand your concerns: Is it your belief that the US is secretly planning on committing troops to the fight for Ukraine? If that were the case, I would expect to be seeing large scale mobilizations going on yesterday. Eight thousand troops to Poland is nothing more than a symbolic gesture of our commitment to NATO.

So trust without questioning what our government is saying and doing on this matter? That's a yes or no question. Putting caveats or qualifiers does not change the premise of my question.

If I am reading your post correctly, you are saying "Sure, the government has lied before, and I know it, but this time, it's on the level, so we should implicitly trust it." Fool me once, shame on you. Try to fool me repeatedly, including blatantly political shenangians? GFY, gub'mint. I am old school and believe there should be a vital national interest before we, as a nation, expend blood and treasure on something. There is nothing about Ukraine that meets that bar for me. And if Old Europe can't be unassed to care, why should I? As Biden's former boss once claimed, "We'll lead from behind..."

Also speaking of dossiers, the Steele Dossier, and the "Intel" that Trump was a willing Russian asset. To Clark's point though, am eerie realization I've had while living in Europe is that the majority of Europeans have no recollection of what the lesson learned with pre WW2 Germany was. They've slid right back to an appeasement strategy with this misguided idea that if they let Russia have Ukraine that will be enough and they'll stop there. They simply aren't willing to go to war until it threatens their country personally (and even then iffy)

You might be too young to remember how the Iraq war started, but Colin Powell provided the ultimate “trust us, we have rock solid intel” and we spent trillions and suffered ten of thousands of casualties for nothing. Had we exposed the “sources and methods” for some critical QC we likely would have avoided that debacle. Our government lacks the credibility to play this card, especially when the consequence is war with a nuclear capable country.

So we expose sources and methods to appease the AP? Seems to me that the purpose for revealing this intel publicly is likely an attempt to deter the Russians from attempting such an operation. Is the AP suggesting that the Russians are not on invasion footing? Why are so many Americans willing to give Putin a pass lately?

Follow the science.

F*cking hypocrites. It is a shame that such an amazing place to live (CA) has been turned into this terrible state due to leftist policies that idiots guided (I'm assuming) solely by their emotions, enact. Thank God the CA universal healthcare didn't make it through... ... Until next year.

A bit of BO.net lore, but if only we had some “spec ops fighter pilots” around that could fill this niche role. I’ve heard bqzips mom could be cadre.

'Merica. I like flying someone else's airplane with someone else paying for gas.

We did it in the Hornet in the RAG/FTU and fleet to show that you could bring back another aircraft through bad weather that didn't have the ability to ability to navigate or fly safely on its own due to aircraft malfunctions like a failed INS/GPS or lack of airspeed indications due to failed sensors. I had to bring back a Hornet for a section landing once due to the latter.

CCP virus vaccine side effects caused a US F-35 fighter jet to crash in the South China Sea "...and the pilot was also diagnosed with acute myocarditis after being sent to the hospital for treatment."

No one trusts the Deep State Press Corparatist Globalist Media Tech Complex anymore. The debacle of Afghanistan, the bitter taste of Iraq, the Libyan misadventure, the mixed results at best of Syria all while denying we are being overrun on our southern border by foreigners and they (said referenced corrupt hypocritical power structure) do nothing about that while expecting Americans and particularly the less than 1% who serve in the military or would if called upon to get on board with a conflict to defend a principle (which I support) to fall in line and fight for someone else's country while they do not defend ours. I'm not for Putin overrunning Ukraine and think we but particularly the Europeans should stand up on their hind legs and say not one inch or soldier across this border, but I'm not surprised "they" can't generate that necessary percentage of public support, given their track record and present action / inactions. That reporter was just channeling the frustrations of the majority of Americans, fight for Ukraine but not defend our borders? Not surprising it eventually peculated out to challenge the official talking points delivery machine.