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@Negatory @Prozac : Now that we have more data, I would like to close out our conversation from back in late December/early January re: how bad Omicron was going to be, how worried everyone needed to be (i.e. panic, NOW), and what our society's response should have been going forward. The Science™️, is in, and it is settled: there weren't ~15K deaths per day from Omicron. Deaths did not exceed the 4x multiplier cited as panic porn - which is what was predicted for you guys on this very thread, since we knew then from South Africa that it was 70x more contagious than Delta. So I hope this can be at least one data point that you should be careful which "experts" you trust and who you outsource your thinking to. There's my credentials. I should now be more credible than Fauci in your eyes. It turns out out that my non-expert opinion was better than all the other "experts" out there that were cited by you guys. What's more? The "news" cycle this morning: "We may not have reached the peak, yet, but let's go ahead and drop all the mask mandates." So says Phil Murphy and other democrats (NJ, RI, NV, IL). I'm sure that has everything to do with the fact that it's as deadly as you all said, and nothing to do with the fact that the midterms are pending...yeah, couldn't be. I'm personally wondering why they're not sticking to the CDC's advice, which is "not so fast" when it comes to dropping the masks. What about the experts!?! LOL. The cognitive dissonance is so loud I can hear it outside their own rattle cans. Our response was and still is almost wholly subject to political calculation at this point. I can't wait for all those Dems to be taken to task on NBC/ABC/CNN/MSNBC next week for 'bucking' the experts as the R's were. I won't hold my breath though. https://www.nj.com/opinion/2022/02/the-end-of-mask-mandates-sheneman.html https://www.providencejournal.com/story/news/local/2022/02/11/ri-covid-mask-mandate-indoors-schools-planes-buses-colleges/6736653001/ https://www.fox5vegas.com/coronavirus/gov-sisolak-lifts-mask-mandate-in-nevada-effective-immediately/article_78ae3250-89cf-11ec-b5e6-470f4b068c75.html https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2022-02-11/did-mask-mandates-work-the-data-is-in-and-the-answer-is-no CA, WA, OR, and a bunch of other Dem states to follow: https://finance.yahoo.com/video/covid-19-more-states-end-204102454.html Anyway, now that the data is there to support it and none of us needs to hypothesize (or appeal to the authority of so-called "experts") anymore, I thought it was important to publicly state, for the record, that I was right and you were wrong.

Bigger picture. The vast majority of people are done with the narratives, elitists, hypocrisy, etc. We know this because of the following. I’m sure I’ve missed some. Virginia elections Freedom convoy Joe Rogan winning CNN self destructing Lockdowns ending and clearly tied to upcoming elections Dem infighting Supreme Court Justice retiring early The crazy left is imploding. I hope and pray the pendulum is swinging back to some sort of normalcy. The midterms will be very very interesting.

Why any adult with critical thinking skills uses any talking head cable or network news show as a primary source of information and/or news is beyond me.

Viper man for the win. quotes, facts, science. Nice work! 👍

I’ve followed the convoy via twitter daily and have seen zero pictures of nazi flags. id like to ask you to show evidence. And articles in the Toronto star don’t count. I want you to produce pictures of these “numerous” nazi flags.

That is quite literally the exact point of a protest. The population should turn their frustrations on the government who's actions led to the protest, and get that government to reverse said actions (vaccine mandates in this case)...that's how it works. Creating discomfort to generate public awareness and action from the masses and/or the government is the entire point of a protest. Getting thrown in jail is historically a common outcome for successful protestors. Only in this case no one is getting killed, buildings are not getting burned, and safety is incredibly high in this protest. They're doing it right.

I believe it is part of an ongoing DOJ investigation. Speaking of investigations this was released yesterday "a new court filing by Special Counsel John Durham, alleges the Clinton campaign paid a technology company to "infiltrate" servers belonging to Trump Tower and later the White House to link Trump to Russia. How is this not breaking news on every station. She tried to rig the American Presidential election, then she tried to illegally overturn it ans seize power. Liberals don't care, she is now expected to speak at the NY Democratic Convention. I know I know, at least the mean tweets are gone.

How dare they block roads. The business owners are mad! peaceful protesting is peaceful protesting; whether or not you support the cause it is our right and should be protected. I’m enjoying the irony watching the same people who supported “fiery but mostly peaceful“ BLM riots and the anarchy in Portland now saying we must slash tires and arrest people who are using the peaceful tactics of MLK and Ghandi. This is not necessarily aimed at you since I don’t know your opinion on what happened in the summer of 2020, but clearly the leftist news outlets are total hypocrites when it comes to protesting. And everything.

Or the people that take pictures in masks and make it their profile pic. No one cares about your virtual signaling.

100% agreed, if that happened it should be investigated and those responsible should be punished...regardless of political affiliation. Do you share the same sentiment on the topic of the Hunter Biden Laptop or do you just hand waive like the liberal hate machine, the mainstream media and the tech oligarchs?

DoD lessons learned report is out and it is brutal, so ugly Biden rejected the findings during an interview on NBC last night. At one point the top commander appealed to the White House to keep Bagram open, it took three days to get an answer and the answer was CLOSE BAGRAM. Among the other findings: The top U.S commander on the ground during the evacuation, Navy Rear Adm. Peter Vasely, told Army investigators that service members would have been "much better prepared to conduct a more orderly" evacuation "if policymakers had paid attention to the indicators of what was happening on the ground." "The top Marine was not permitted to discuss the possibility of a mass-evacuation with anyone other than British officials the report noted." Some State Department personnel were “intoxicated and cowering in rooms,” and others were “operating like it was day-to-day operations with absolutely no sense of urgency or recognition of the situation,” the officer said. During an Aug. 6 meeting, a National Security Council official, who is not identified in the report, appeared to lack a sense of urgency and told others involved that if the United States had to execute an evacuation, it would signal “we have failed,” Sullivan recalled. “In my opinion, the NSC was not seriously planning for an evacuation,” he said. The White House declined to comment.

I’m sure NBC does not wish to imperil it’s broadcast rights right in the middle of the Olympics. IMO, we should’ve had a total boycott.

If you work up to the day you get out, you get BAS + BAH + Base Pay + any special pays and THEN get paid for 60 days of base pay when you get out. If you take it as terminal you get out without that 60 days of buyback. Each situation is unique, especially if you have a follow on job, but for a 12 year O-4 that doesn't sell any leave back, that's approximately $16,000 extra you get when you get out,

Mkay. I'm glad you never said it directly. I suppose you're unfamiliar with the concepts of implication or multiplication. You did strongly suggest those numbers, however, with the 5-15% death rate you quoted numerous times. Sooooo, 5-15% of 1.0M people per week is 50K - 150K. Since approx 16% of people in the US are over 70 yrs old, that means we should have seen approx 8K - 24K people (only those older than 70!) dying every week. We didn't see that. And many of us knew we weren't going to see that. And the actions our government took during those early weeks of January reflect their knowledge that we weren't going to see that, either. Some on this board are overly disturbed by others' lack of faith. Your numbers were and are wrong. So sure, you can state under oath that you didn't say it, but you said it. Anyway. The point is some of us knew this wasn't going to be as big a problem. Many others were running around freaking out and imploring everyone to share in their panic. I just felt like it was worth invalidating some of the previous BS on this thread a little bit more neatly now that we do know for sure.

Ok I mostly try to just RX rather than TX on political stuff these days, but this one is just a bizarre example of "Dems in disarray." Breyer is 83! He retired at an age two years older than the last SCOTUS Justice who chose to retire, Kennedy. And thankfully he didn't make the mistake that Ginsburg and Scalia did re: "retiring too late" i.e. dying while a President of the other party is in office!

Exactly. The double standard always adapts itself to remain a double standard. And the BLM riots were "protesting" a blatant misrepresentation of policing in America.

Jesus Christ… Dude you’ve got political leaders and people representing the media using inflammatory terms like extremists, terrorists, anti-government, talking about threats of violence, etc… Show us one overturned cop car or burned out building as the result of this protest. Anybody smart enough can see just how easily and readily the media narrative will paint your actions to suit its ideology. Half a downtown neighborhood is on fire and looted = “mostly peaceful protests.” An bunch of truckers park rigs on a bridge and wave flags and signs = “right wing extremist science deniers.” Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

It was ok two summers ago along with murdering and burning both civilian, state, and federal property causing billions of dollars of damage. This time there isn’t death, burning, wanton destruction and it’s to support individual freedoms. Why is a much more peaceful civil protest this time not ok? If anyone has that opinion that it’s wrong I would love to hear your thoughts as to why. And it can’t be because the population depends on them. Because that’s the risk you take in a society that is founded on freedom. So go with other reasons.

They aren't torching local businesses, so....

I support anyone’s right to protest and peaceably assemble. Blocking roads and border crossings is something else entirely though. The residents & businesspeople of Ottawa have lost patience with these guys & their message is tarnished by the damage they’re doing to the community (sound familiar?). It’ll be the same here.

Ok who forgot to disable Chemtrails on the Dream Six? Mysterious Liquid' Falling From The Sky In Las Vegas And No One Knows Why

I wouldn’t do any of those things, and I’m against mandates. But who cares if someone wants to wear a mask on their own? I saw it all the time in Japan pre-pandemic and no one cared. I don’t understand the rage it causes. Just like I don’t understand the rage not wearing a mask causes. Why can’t people just do what they want?

What in the absolute fuck am I looking at?

I believe in being fair and giving credit when it is due. Abu Ibrahim al-Hashimi al-Qurashi is now dead I am proud President Biden had the stones to send our young men and women into harms way to get him. Today we can all celebrate that an evil son of a bitch no longer walks the earth. Murica!

I think you are onto something. Take notes future wingmen…if a major screw-up is impending, don’t forget to complain about chest pains and yell “fucking vaccine” before doing whatever it is you were about to do.

Nope. Wasn’t ok then either. We had a protester near where I live that was killed trying to block high speed traffic on the freeway. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Can’t say I’m particularly shocked at the level of cognitive dissonance of people now supporting tactics they lambasted just a year and a half ago. Principles end at politics for some I guess.

Although you are desperate for validation - craving the herd’s approval and being able to say “I told ya so” - you’re not gonna find it. I never said there was a guaranteed increase in deaths. I never said that omicron would have a death rate that was the same as delta or higher. I said there would likely be over a million cases a day, and we couldn’t know how that would impact the healthcare system. You said that there was no chance we could quadruple our maximum cases per day and were very wrong within just a couple weeks. Standard. Maybe you forget that I used exact quotes from you to prove how incorrect you were. In reality, I see that still bugs you. Glad the mortality of this virus was significantly lower for Omicron. I am and have been fully in support of removing all mask and vaccine mandates shortly after more data came out (but you don’t know or can’t accept this because you can’t debate a nuanced opinion). Go ahead, check my posts. This is not gonna be the “and then they clapped” moment you wish it would be.

I fear that you actually are the one that doesn't get it. If you want, we can discuss the numerous nazi flags seen at the freedom convoy. But that, like much media coverage, probably isn't representative of the movement as a whole. Oh, wait. Question your political biases, slow the flow of information warfare into your veins.