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I sat with a few scientists down in Antarctica while doing the Deep Freeze mission on days I wasn’t flying. They were there studying the climate. I asked them what the deal is with this whole climate change thing and listened for a while as they talked about it. There were a couple big take aways. First, was the amount of variables involved in their work. They didn’t even have consistent climate measurements going back 50-100 years. Where were the measurements taken? When were they taken? With what equipment? By who? How was the data stored and what data has been shared, etc. Second, they all absolutely agreed that the climate is changing. It always has. They study the environment and climate to better understand it. That doesn’t mean they were trying to validate future climate catastrophes. They were simply trying to understand it without predetermined findings. Lastly, they said it’s another example of something being used for political gain. Everybody has an angle and everybody has a different set of goals and motivation. I believe the climate changes. I don’t believe it’s something to be scared of. “Climate change” is a source of power and money. Fear is a tactic. It’s really no different than the 2 years of Covid shenanigans. Gotta get people scared so we can spend endless piles of new money.

I don’t know anybody who thinks the climate does not change; the degree to which human behavior impacts the process and what behavior we should modify to create a deliberate changes without unintended consequences seems to be the point of contention. However my entire life I have been fed alarmist climate propaganda which failed to materialize. In 1991 my 6th grade science teacher taught that by 2010 ozone holes would make going to the beach impossible in the summertime. Thats just one example, and what my kids bring home now are equally dire and silly prophecies. From acid rain to ozone holes to global heating global cooling polar ice cap melting, etc. climate change activists would be more convincing if they embraced humility and acknowledged their many incorrect predictions…. and quit feeding junk science to children who cannot present a logical argument. Hyperbole feels good in the moment, but does long-term damage to credibility.

Obama owns two waterfront mansions. Biden owns one. The Bush family owns one. I bet Kerry owns one. All of them travel via Gulfstream. I’ll believe I have to give up fossil fuels when these people start living like climate change is real.

This thread was producing a lot of good discussion, and then the Climate Change grenade got thrown into the room, sending us into a whole page of nonsense back and forth. Don't feed the troll.

This is exactly what I was talking about in my last post when it comes to the absolute vacuum of leadership ability in the current administration. The lefty advisors sitting around thinking of their next move can't even help themselves when it comes to their hatred of the oil industry. So they draft up a letter from Biden that simply attacks the oil industry vs trying to be part of a solution. Like I had said before, the administration could stick to their public goal of trying to move away from fossil fuels while also actually working to help the American public today. There is absolutely no reason the President's letter couldn't have been an olive branch reaching out to the oil industry seeing how the federal government could work with and help the oil industry to increase supply and production. "To the American people, today I sent a letter to America's oil executives expressing my office's desire to sit down and come to real solutions on how to increase oil supply in this country. Make no mistake, my administration is still committed to furthering America's movement towards green energy, a process I feel the oil industry can be a part of as well; but this is a long process that will take time. American's are hurting now though, I feel that pain, and we are going to work together with America's oil and gas industry to make things better." But instead we get more of the "oil is evil talk". This administration is just simply inept.

I propose we pass a bipartisan bill making volcanoes illegal! and carbon tax them as well! Do it for the kids!

There is WAY more going on, on Earth than your/my/our CO2 contributions....where are we in any of these other factors???? FFS...Earth wobble affects more greatly temps than CO2, or sea currents. The disconnect is people who believe a single thing IS the cause, when the whole system is more complex and don't consider the other factors. You know, like, pick and choose what suits your narrative instead of the science! Ha, trust the science (cough, hack, the science we tell you to beleive)! Where have we heard that before? https://www.quantamagazine.org/how-earths-climate-changes-naturally-and-why-things-are-different-now-20200721/

I’m sorry, we’re looking for MLA.

Of course it is real, the question is how do you deal with it? Do you crush the American economy in an empty effort to send a message when China, India and others thumb their nose at the issue? The numbers from the past two years are skewed given COVID and shutdowns, but in general U.S. emissions have been declining while China and India were increasing. And please tell me how crushing production within the U.S. then begging Saudi, Venezuela and Iran to increase production is solving the problem? Come on Man! I would rather see us be energy independent, keep our economy strong and use the taxes and lease payments to fund a Manhattan Project style approach to capturing, limiting, removing carbon from the atmosphere. One of the great things about capitalism and the free market is it drives efficiency and problem solving.

So back to the pro life vs pro death debate then?……Right

Maybe we'll finally get back to being a little better staffed!

SWAPA is hosting an informational picket at KDAL next Tuesday. Looks like close to 1K will be in attendance.

The one thing my quoted article does do truthfully is infer that global warming and cooling is far greater affected by cosmic/solar powers, plate tectonics, volcanic activity, and ocean currents...amoung other things other than human activity. There are far greater powers at play than humans.

Best was at ASBC. One Lt in my class failed the first test, so our flight/cc asked me to share my study habits. My response was “Ma’am I don’t think a 12 pack of Heineken and not doing the reading is going to work out for her.” Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

That kind of adult language wouldn’t appeal to zealots like AOC.

I’ll just judge the climate alarmists by their actions…so yeah, I’m not too worried.

nice straw man ... nobody is saying the climate hasn't/doesn't change.

No, I read. And call BS on their claim (as I wrote).

What a complete BS claim. Brandolini's law explains how that feces was published in spite of the ridiculous claim shown in quotes in your post. There are way too many variables, each with significant variance in climate change models, to come even close to showing a causal effect (even a "relative causal" effect). I know a Senior Editor who should be replaced.

Case in point. I don't know if you even read the source. Second paragraph: "We can clearly show the causal link between carbon dioxide emissions from human activity and the 1.28 degree Celsius (and rising) global temperature increase since pre-industrial times." Then he goes on to tell you about other things that have affected the climate in the past, but that article in no way backs up your point. Also, just to be clear, the scientific community is not even slightly split on this. 99-100% consensus on humans causing anthropogenic climate change. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0270467619886266 https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/ac2966 Brandolini's law strikes again. "The amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude larger than is needed to produce it"

Dear god Karen, there is a huge difference between using a source to support an argument and simply spewing the tripe and LIES that comes out of the DNC. I'll make sure all future posts are in the APA style.

We always used to do the great Ambien challenge while staying in Camp California at Manas. You pop your Ambien in the camp, then need to walk the 20 minutes down to the bar, chug your two "#9" beers, then cross the street to the Green Bean and get the strongest coffee you could, because the challenge wasn't over until you made it back to Camp California. Many tried, few survived.

Biden’s “climate czar” John Kerry said we absolutely do not need more oil drilling. This is the message of the left… If the GOP was smart (they often aren’t), they would run ads of a few soundbites of Biden/his administration and Dem politicians saying how they’re against oil, more oil exploitation, etc and then show the price of gas.

I actually really enjoyed SOS. Had a great flight and flight CC (C-130 pilot). Also had a controversial idea to show up there and not be an asshole to the non-pilots and just try to learn and make friends. Seemed to work out well.

You make a good argument, but it's also comical that you call someone out for "regurgitating talking points" when you plagiarized the American Petroleum Institute's website, bullet point by bullet point, without attributing a word of it as anyone's other than your own.

A good read. One of our former U-2 Brothers was on this crew. He has some really good pics. https://coffeeordie.com/c-17-secret-mission-kabul/

SOS is where pilots learn how inept *most* of the AF really is and why everything outside a flying sq is a dysfunctional sh-tshow.

Well it won't matter. The economy is tanking, and it won't be long before the airlines start to furlough. Then the AF will have "solved" their pilot retention program for a couple of years. No need for civilian IPs at that point.

Did he say that because he washed out of F-15 RTU and thinks himself a “carnivore?”

I don’t even think it’s important. The GWOT invalidated those schools and the officers they produced. None of their advanced education brought anything worthwhile to the GWOT. Our successes were tactical, and produced by guys & gals in the trenches flying the daily line figuring out a new way to expedite authorities, move stuff, pass gas, engage high speed cars, track squirters, etc. Guys like you. Making the only thing close to a win by pure grit & attrition. Whereas our numerous GWOT failures were produced (militarily at least, I’ll sidestep political finger-pointing) by inexperienced commanders overthinking relatively simple problems. Attendance at these prestigious schools and their prerequisite Exec/ADC jobs is a time demand incompatible with double digit line flying deployments. When these graduates finally showed up down range, it was always in a leadership position however their lack of operational experience and credibility resulted in leading without confidence or operational context; their knowledge of war was theoretical. They didn’t trust their captains to provide that experience, were crippled by a lack of confidence, did not understand how to intelligently take calculated risk, were fixated on irrelevancies while mischaracterizing captains who prioritize mission and ignored irrelevancies as undisciplined, and stuck to poor command decisions out of pride. You couldn’t talk to these people. They just wanted to make it to the end of their tour without anything happening. They despised initiative. The elite IDE/SDE schools and fellowships are no longer prestigious. They produced graduates who simply cannot win, and stifled those who could.

Until UPT2.5 cuts-out T-1 flights and associated parts (i.e. sims) it'll be about same timeline roughly but actually more events in UPT2.5 than 2.0

I was told he flew a CV-22 into the trees and did some minor damage to the bird...was also "told" they continued on with the training mission after the tree event. One of dudes in the back thought for sure they were going to flip over and crash. The then AFSOC/CC was prepared to end him but Slife stepped in and said he could "save him"... Cat 5 was 3 or 4 BPZ at that point and as I heard that same AFSOC/CC say to my face after another incident, "some people are too far along to let them fail" meaning they had invested so much in making him a GO they didn't want to waste it because AFSOC is obsessed with making AFSOC GOs. Truly one of the worst humans on earth.

We now have the President telling companies what an acceptable profit margin is. Biden tells oil companies in letter 'well above normal' refinery profit margins are 'not acceptable' (cnbc.com)

@bfarginThat is a quote from the article the previous person posted. Looks like you don't read either.

I think the fundamental disconnect of this forum to American society is that the majority of you don’t believe global warming is either real or a real issue. https://www.pewresearch.org/science/2019/11/25/u-s-public-views-on-climate-and-energy/