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why would they when the slides were green and we were "making progress?"

TDY from Tyndall up to Cold Lake. Landed and were putting the jets to bed. Local gas trucks show up and we fill everything up. Go inside to finish forms and somebody mentioned something about their gas card didn't work so they borrowed the next jets. New crew chief hears this and asks what a gas card is. Long story short, truck driver asked for a card and new guy gave him his GTC 🙂 Wonder what 2300 gallons of JP-5 cost back then.

I blame Obama...we should have pulled out of Afghanistan during his first term.

💯 - It seems the past few years the FBI has been more than willing to overlook or simply forget the Constitution. 45 minutes of interrogation in the shower?!?!? That agency has run amok!

WTF are federal agents doing training in a public hotel? So, in the room next door there was some poor bastard waiting to get interrogated? I know a cover story when I see one. Whoever wrote that one didn't work very hard. How many deployed environments look like downtown Boston? Taken another way: the federal government is practicing invading public lodging and interrogating citizens, presumably without waking the neighbors (which is the only logical reason you'd practice in a place like that, train like you fight). That's straight up gestapo shit. In the broader context of how federal agencies have been acting recently, this is concerning.

In yet ANOTHER example of the system being weaponized against the GOP. This time the Air Force helped and the Deputy Chief of Staff for Manpower doesn't know if a single person was fired.

nsplayer I think Rat made a pertinent point in his post, probably not his main point, but a good one - Republicans aren't championing the Proud Boys and whatever other loons claim to be "conservatives/right/republicans. Democrats are championing Antifa rioting, white priveledge, "white men need to be dealt with," Black Lives Matter, the people who can't understand the biology of gender, etc. Democrats are championing that crazy ass shit. That's the difference. And its driving a wedge. If you came at me with an argument about abortion, gun control, or climate change, I'd engage. But for whatever reason in the past 5 years the Democrats have wholesale endorsed the craziest shit that their people at the wildest margins could dream up. To be completely fair, Republicans have fucked up politically so bad since the age I could vote, its embarrasing. That aside, they aren't championing the marginal "wing" positions. The Democrats definitely are.

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The sad part about this is that the trans person (used to be a dude, now a chick) held the record at 275 lbs. I can understand why he transitioned…weak ass bench press for a normal dude lol.

Maybe this report will be the catalyst needed to enable the American public to elect someone into a position that will be able to make decisions related to military and diplomatic operations.

https://nypost.com/2023/03/30/male-powerlifter-enters-womens-event-breaks-record/

I'm not imagining 'deployed' as the desert, and I'm well aware that we use civilians on the daily for target practice. Hell, I've done urban E&E myself. It's great training, and it's needed. There's a reason it's not readily disclosed how and where we practice with military skill sets. Civilians simply wouldn't understand. However, being on the business end of an ISR lens, bombsight, empty barrel, or HUD is one thing. Doing practice interrogations in public lodging is something completely different. The deployed locations that mirror a major US city where DoD would need these skills are many and varied. We definitely need to train for that. That's why we have secure facilities specifically built for the purpose of replicating those environments (with obvious limitations). There are times when a major US city is the only place to practice employment, tradecraft, etc. But, practice interrogation should not be happening in a civilian environment for the exact reason that they hit the wrong target and didn't immediately realize it. That's all kinds of unsat. Interrogation...as in get information. If they are brand new to this, it should happen in a controlled environment. If they aren't new, the instructors should be fired. It should have taken all of 5 seconds for the instructors to realize they had the wrong dude/wrong room. Field interrogation is one of the few times we question someone without knowing much about them. I get this guy probably just sat in a tub while an academic situation was occurring, but that is precisely why this kind of training should never happen in a civilian environment. FBI training DoD, I get it. There's nothing wrong there. But they HAVE to weigh the risks of making a mistake like this though. It really does make them look like the gestapo, especially in today's social and political environment. Hitting the wrong target in a person-to-person environment, possibly even disclosing some ways and means, speaks to a serious problem in the system. Risk vs reward analysis is way off somewhere in that training process. I sincerely hope this isn't an indicator of the proficiency levels in our federal agencies. That all assumes this was actually a training event. I'm not willing to discount that it could have actually been a real event that missed it's target. "Training event" would be a likely cover story for such a miss. That's no conspiracy, just a statement of fact. We can't be immune to the fact that this is precisely how federal agencies interdict bad guys. All the more need for well planned training. Either way, I think you're right: that dude's getting paid.

It's almost as though religion is just correlational, not causal, to the tendencies of humans in tribes.

Concur. And we conservatives are collective pussies. We aren't doing anything. We talk a big ole game, but we don't have BLM or Antifa. The left does. And they employ them. And the President and VP praise them. Conservatives have no offense. Apparently the conservatives are cool with literally getting their asses handed to them. By literally, I mean, antifa attacked whatever they wanted to, BLM attacked whatever they wanted to, and then the crowd joined in and buildings were burning. In Portland, OR, USA.

Old boy is getting paid

Either this is about “everybody being under penalty of the same legal system” or it isn’t. Hunter Biden isn’t “political retribution” should some next admin (because it sure as hell won’t be this one) chose to act on demonstrated public crime. He cannot legally own a firearm… yet he bought one… that’s a felony. We don’t need a 3 year special council investigation to establish that any more than we can’t prove him in possession of narcotics when he’s literally been photographed with a crack pipe. So felony firearms violations…it’s a Federal crime violated so yes it is in fact evidence that the executive branch does not intent to apply justice evenly and is carrying out action entirely based off political alignments. You can’t claim some sort of legal justice seeking narrative going after a political opponent and then suddenly act like anybody connected to the opposite side being prosecuted for demonstrated crimes is “retribution.” Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I don't think you understand the law....it is ONLY a crime (and a misdemeanor at that), if he then used those "altered" books to raise or borrow money. That two year clock ran out YEARS ago. Now I know you are a rah rah hang the Orange Man guy but if you want to connect it to the election that is a federal statue, something the NY DA can't prosecute and something the DOJ already looked at and elected to pass on. By the way to make it a felony it has to be in an effort to hide another crime. Lets say somehow this lunacy is a felony, that clock is five years and again it ran out a long time ago. This is nothing but the democratic hate machine generating drama. You guys are creating a martyr. Prior to this there was a chance he was going to lose in the primaries...now the base will harden in response and he will win the nomination. Even the talking heads at CNN have admitted it...let it go...let him fade to oblivion. Even the New York Times agrees...

Gets him back in the media, strengthens his base, and makes it more difficult for anyone else to get an R majority in primary that isn’t Trump.

Osama Bin Laden is laughin in his grave. Did he win with 9/11? We seemed to get along better as Americans before 9/11 and now we're arguing about sending an ex president to jail because he banged a porn star and our current president reminds me of a Leslie Nielsen character. It's finally here, we've turned into the movie Idiocracy. America, It's got what plants crave.

“You guys,” dude just knock that shit off. Probably 99% of us all agree assholes who break the law (especially politicians wielding power) should go down. We all need to stop this “you guys” shit, and yeah, I’m just as guilty as the rest of you. However, knocking that off also includes not being obtuse and ignoring blatant facts, whether those facts are “friendly” to your preferred party/candidates or not. As I read various statements made about this trump situation, it’s very clear nobody wants the guy protected, they just want the law universally applied, and correctly; that factually has not occurred. That’s the issue, not guys wanting Trump to get away with things. Though I think we all agree on applying the law universally, the specific problem here is some purposely stick there fingers in the ears and scream “la la la la la” when the lopsided application of law is highlighted.

“That’s not a vibrator, this is a vibrator!” - BqZip’s mom

There’s a third possibility: don’t play the game with each other at all (national divorce). Sounds outlandish, I know, but you’re telling a significant portion of voters an admittedly unfair system will never allow them to vote for their candidate and will continue faux legal maneuvers to subvert the democratic process. The game is rigged against them and it’s their fault they are too dumb to avoid being cheated. Why would anybody willingly continue in that system? I’m amazed how Americans who can dispassionately assess political events overseas seem completely incapable of applying equally objective analysis to events in our own country. NS repeating the talking point that “no one is above the law.” False, several people are obviously above the law and we no longer live in a free country. The FBI has evidence of Biden family crimes kept them under wraps for years (anyone who has seen the laptop reporting realizes there are major crimes clearly documented therein). Russian collusion scandal was a crime. Even Comey said Hillary committed crimes with classified documents but “no reasonable prosecutor” would pursue charges. WTF? The Director of the FBI literally stated he knew Clinton committed crimes, but did not think anybody would prosecute them so he wouldn’t try. Sorry NS, you are wrong, we live in a country where people of a certain political persuasion are above the law. It is obviously corrupt and obviously unsustainable. You can try to paint facts different than they are, but you are not convincing.

A ten inch long missile? Are we sure it wasn’t just BQZip’s mom’s vibrator?

Much like California being a great place except for alot of the Californians, I see the same thing in the church. There are a ton of Christians that miss the forest for the trees and use certain verses as a cudgel to push shitty ideology. My brother was a drug addict that literally nearly killed me as a baby and would have killed himself if not for our churches youth pastor, pastor, and my dad (no shit talked him off a literal ledge with a gun in his hand). They got him in recovery, helped him along the way, and he became a very successful person. He also relapsed twice and the church family helped him. Conversely, I know families where the parents divorce and they are excommunicated from the church. I don’t want to get into a dogmatic argument about all of that, but that kind of thing does more damage to the church than damn near anything.

Exactly. We call “ brave” what we called mental illness before all this craziness started. We give homeless drug addicts clean needles and narcan instead of arresting them and getting them into programs. Makes as much sense as seeing someone play Russian roulette and saying “here, let me give you some clean bullets because we care”

They actually changed it because the general public picked up on the connotation that "drones" or "unmanned" aerial vehicles were autonomous and making kill/no kill decisions algorithmically without human input. The change in terminology was to emphasize that despite the fact the aircrew member is not on the aircraft, it is still controlled by a human being, a person, who is making decisions and inputs. This predates any General Officer with significant RPA experience and was entirely done to reduce public resistance to the GWOT. The term Pilot comes from Pilotus, which means "Rudder" or more appropriately, one who steers a rudder. Its also used to refer to the person who steers the helm of a ship or boat. Aircraft pilots dont have exclusive use of the word. TAMI-21 imprisoned me for 3 years in that world. However, the professionalism and knowledge I saw about air operations often surpassed the manned aircraft pilots I worked with. I have no issue with RPA pilots adopting the term. Nothing in the etymology of the term "pilot" has anything to do with actual presence on a vessel and more to do with the actual control and steering of the vessel.

They found the "boat accident" stash: https://www.foxnews.com/us/new-york-ffisherman-tips-police-cache-rifles-handguns-submerged-jamaica-bay

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