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As you know there is a HUGE difference between acceptance/equal treatment of LGTBQ and the progressive movement that is being forced down our throats, I would hope @nsplayr would agree. Compare and contrast how the issue is being handled by the progressive media in Florida and California. Last year Florida passed a law that the progressive movement absolutely hated because it thwarts their agenda...they hate it so much they changed the name and have repeatedly called it the "don't say gay law" even the the word "gay" is no where in the verbiage. That law simply states schools will not have “instruction” or “discussion” of sexual orientation and gender identity from kindergarten through third grade. If you see something wrong with that...god help you. The progressives are of course upset and screen it impacts their free speech as if their right to proselytize gender change to kids 5-8 years old is more important than parental rights. In California schools have allowed institutions like Planned Parenthood and organizations that promote gender change to promote this ideology without the knowledge or permission of parents. In these sessions they tell 5-8 year olds they can get puberty blockers without their parents finding out. Truly sick humans. I supposed these same groups would enable a six year old who wants to be a pirate and schedule his eye removal and peg leg surgery. This ideology is celebrated in California schools and parents who push back find themselves under surveillance by the FBI as possible domestic terrorists. It is very interesting that over 80% of kids who seek gender conversion end up changing their mind...80%. I will support your right to be what you want and love who you want all day, but stop promoting this to pre-adolencents and stop cutting parents out of the process.

I'll disagree with you here as a justification for these events. LGTBQ/Pride month will not change the heart of a biased person. And, more often than not in the military it turns into a forced event that ends up with a negative connotation. Perhaps I have scar tissue but reflecting back on 26 years of these types of forced events I can't think of a single one that made me walk away with an "ah ha" moment. 18X...hardly, you are mixing and matching numerous studies and when you peel them back they are full of bias and flawed logic...It is a sad fact that the vast majority of pedophiles are heterosexual white men...many have kids of their own. When you actually read these studies they provide no scientific evidence of anything you are claiming. Most of them use opinion and conjecture, usually published on religious sites or religious advocacy group sites with a preface saving homosexuality is a deviant behavior. As a Christian I am always shocked the religious groups which as a foundation teach love and tolerance are so concerned and butthurt about what other people do in the privacy of their own home. This right here. Flashing back to high school there was a guy that was obviously gay but the environment of the period I grew up in was far less accepting than today. Looking back on it now he was extremely bitter and no one really wanted to hang out with him, not because we knew he was gay but because he was always so angry. I was in AP English and was placed in a small group of four students with him to work several projects. In that small group he let his guard down and was a completely different person. By that time (10th grade), he had read and re-read all the classics, with ease he could pull the threads of those books to the ancient philosophers and the bible. He had an incredible mind, truly the guy was brilliant but he hid it under this facade of anger that must have been his defense mechanism. I didn't interact with him much after that class, we rode the same bus and on several occasions I tried to be social and say hello but he was back in his shell and mostly ignored me. At my 20 year reunion I learned he committed suicide (RIP Gary), and I couldn't help but think how difficult high school was for him and just how cruel other kids can be. As a heterosexual I am attracted to women, I can't comprehend being attracted to another man...but that doesn't make homosexuality wrong. I have worked and flown with numerous gay people...guess what...so have ALL you...and they were all most likely great Americans serving their country. Over the course of my career I also saw four egregious cases of pedophilia...and ALL were straight white men who were chasing young girls...one of them his own daughter. Like the forced celebration events, nothing we say here is going to change Bfargin's heart...so be it, we are free country and you are entitled to your opinion, but all that hate is going to eat you up and life is way to short to hate someone else just because of who they love.

I know we cover plenty of examples of toxic Air Force leadership on these boards…however those pale into comparison to the toxicity of Army GOs. Said toxicity is widely accepted in the Army - in a system that openly rewards people for BF their peers and stepping on their people to make it to the top ranks. If you’ve ever (unfortunately) worked a Joint Assignment…you know.

Children aren't allowed to drive until 14, get a driver's license at 16, vote or buy a gun until 18, and drink until they are 21 years old. Why? Because society does not believe that children have the mental capacity to make correct choices regarding those subjects. But somehow, when it comes to permanent devastating life altering surgical or hormonal choices, children including pre-teens are deemed by the left to be more than competent to make those decisions. The leftist fascination with co-opting children is downright evil. Whatever another adult wants to do to float their boat is fine by me just don't ask me to to play along with any sort of delusion or celebrate whatever choice that adult may make but leave children alone.

concur.

The "just die" part was a bit raw, but you were right about the overall character of the generation. Entitled, irresponsible, and completely unprepared for a retirement that their delusional government spending has ensured my generation will never have. The boomers have the honorable distinction of being the first ever generation of American parents to leave their children worse off than they were. Bravo.

I highly recommend “What is a Woman?” which can be found on Twitter searching for The Daily Wire. Pretty scary stuff and even scarier that the children are being indoctrinated with this stuff. Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app

As long as I can start my interview with “back in my day” and bitch for an hour straight, I’ll do it.

That doesn’t directly reflect on your ability to be a good pilot, just the unique pressures and requirements of flying fighters isn’t your thing, and that’s OK. I’ve recommended to leadership twice in my career an individual needs to stop flying fighters, and they were removed without FEB (post-MQT mind you). They’re doing fine, including one flying for a major. I’ve flown with a lot of pilots (either outside the AF or as an observer in their mil aircraft) who are great pilots, and also with fighter pilots who would die in a GA airplane if I wasn’t with them. The aircraft type you fly doesn’t immediately define the quality of pilot you are (good or bad).

Wow. That deescalated quickly. @HuggyU2 , I doubt he was talking to your generation anyway. We all really admire your efforts at the Meuse-Argonne and Vittorio Veneto.

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What leftists fail to realize is that two things can be true at the same time—messing up kids’ lives is bad regardless of who is doing it. When Bill Maher is saying it, you know it’s pretty bad.

This.

They were basket cases before, and will be basket cases after.

The leftist on this site can’t (won’t) even explain what a woman is.

It’s also living in their own reality for decades. It’s easy to start thinking that the way we get to live is normal. The trick is to be able to recognize when you are being an arrogant ass in public. Just like I ask my fellow crewmembers to point out my fuck ups in the jet, I’ll also tell guys to just kick me if I start talking about money/lifestyle in front of the wrong crowd.

If you're going to own it, just own it. We all know the basis of your opinion and it's nothing to do with rigorous scientific inquiry. You're so proud to be the stalwart holding the line against perversion, but you're ashamed to admit it comes from your religious indoc? Doesn't square. A cursory look at evolutionary biology makes it impossible to deny that minority homosexuality is as normal as it gets, with good reason, but you probably don't dip into the evolutionary sciences much. I don't want anybody's sexuality thrown in my face unsolicited, straight or otherwise. The militant (vocal minority) members of the 'movement' have gone crazy with it after tasting some success and that needs to be reigned in, but let's not pretend that going back to assuming George Michael was crushing pussy is the answer.

I’ll take the hit on being harsh (even mean at times) against the cause. At the risk of being too defensive, i really don’t hate the individuals, I hate the movement and the championing of destructive behavior. And contrary to some observations i have personally seen close lifelong friends hurt by it, which makes it hurt even more. As for research (back when i did some - 20 plus years ago) it was social science so psychology and sociology. So yeah self reporting, survey type with tons of variance that can’t be fully explained or dismissed easily. But even anthropology and medical research shows that sexual activity outside of monogamous heterosexual relationships have negative implications for those who engage. i stand by my observation that 30 plus years of championing abnormal sexual activity has had seriously negative consequences psychologically for our society.

At the risk of getting lumped into the “gay porn on the computer” parlay, I think the Pride movement has gone completely off the rails. There’s a massive difference between Harvey Milk fighting proposition 6 that stated mandatory firing of gay teachers and where the movement is now. Hell, the NYC pride parade had 3 trans and a lesbian as the marshals in 2022. Yes, gay pride now means gay isn’t enough. Wtf. And watch the video below from Liberal champion Bill Maher about LGBT issues that I think sums up the majority of peoples feelings on this issue. So not in all instances, but yes I think homosexuality/gender dysmorphia/etc is a choice. Before I get a bunch of rainbow colored grenades and Zima Molotov cocktails thrown at me, I 100% acknowledge that societal pressures in the past kept those numbers down and still affect many today.

Is this facebook marketplace?

https://www.airandspaceforces.com/article/0698tigers/ NKAWTG

Way before most of you were born, but one of my favorite AI films...... "The Forbin Project" (1970)

If he wasn’t the politician he is, he’d be in a home, probably nearing hospice. Its insane people have propped that guy up to be the President. Its absolutely humiliating, for him and the country at large.

Washed out of IFF, went to B-1s, then was TAMIed to AFSOC. I did all right for myself. Keep your chin up. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Please answer the below questions before replying again on this forum.... What is your most memorable childhood event and how has that impacted you today? Describe yourself using only colors and shapes. Describe why time flies like an arrow but fruit flies like a banana? How do you feel when you think about your upbringing and what makes you feel that way?

I’m just glad you guys sorted this out so I don’t need to do this difficult math. I’m still trying to figure out how the “born before 1960-65” thing works. Is it born before 1960, so the 61-65 is irrelevant? Or if you’re a ‘64 guy do you have some stink on you too? But less than the ‘63 guy? By the time I came close to wrapping my head around that Huggy had stepped in to save the day. 😜

Ah... the virtual squadron bar is an interesting place. Four Fans... you know I love you. And I'm just having some drunken fun. Come to Beale sometime. Drinks are on me. XOXO. p.s. I've taken my lithium and feel fine now.

Knock it off. I let the lid off online. That was wrong. I had a severely grating experience with a virulently entitled older CA who decided to aggressively inform me that I need to work harder to pay 'my fair share' into social security so it doesn't bottom out on him. It's not the first time I've been shit on by these older guys, and I lost it, and it came out via whiskey, a keyboard, and the airline forum. Seriously bad form on my part. Post deleted. @HuggyU2, apologies for the hitting a sore spot. Thanks for the sage words of direction. I'm sure young huggy never shot off at the mouth or had the mayor throw a pool ball his way for buffoonery. The fact that, of all people in all the demographics, a select set of older airline pilots decide to dump on anyone younger than them in the work force has been seriously rubbing me the wrong way. But that's not an excuse. I'll get back to leaving the drunken posting to others. Oh the irony: ...an inappropriate and aggressive expression of frustration at getting generationally cornholed is met with "go fuck yourself". I guess there's solace to be had. I don't have to do it myself when someone else is already elbow deep.

Warning to the bros: You can find “alarming” info on the inter webs that does not make it OK to start contributing your knowledge on said subject outside the appropriate channels. You will get butt fucked accordingly if you fuck this up. Shouldn’t have to be said, but…

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