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Remember when progressives on here said that the covid shot was a readiness issue…oh that was funny. Good times.

Dude, the reason the few of you "moved on with" your lives instead of talking about that absolute fiasco after the fact, is because you were dead ing wrong after screaming at the top of your lungs of how righteous you were. Instead of admitting that your side was full of arrogant charlatans and trying to figure out how to ensure such a up doesn't occur in the near future, you high-tailed as fast as possible to save face. You deserve to be "dunked" on. A lot. It was a massive stain on modern society with long-lasting detrimental 1st and 2nd order effects. Also, are these dubious press outfits (who latch onto reports that further excoriate the people who demanded others get the vaccine) somehow worse than the ones who went off 24/7 for nearly 2 years about how the world was basically ending and everyone needed to trust the science? GTFOH

General Chang is a real account, and has stars on his shoulders. He is a personnelist. Bashi Chuni is Chang’s troll account where he pretends to be a pilot. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

So let me understand this, I was called a Baby Killer, by even friends, during Vietnam. Now, if I’m a present Alphabet person, I can have everyone else pay for my Abortion, Transition, etc. and I can avoid Deploying, let alone Combat Tours. And not be called Baby Killer.

I think you moved on because you were willing to condemn people to death for not taking the shot and don't want to talk about it.

Get the vax or lose your livelihood - millions faced that order from their company in this country. No different than a mil member being told get it or be force-separated (aka lose your livelihood). Critical thinking is hard, isn’t it?

And to think the people that botched Afghanistan and excoriated here are the very same decision makers in the current conflict. No consequences, no accountability. What could go wrong?

Hopefully not for long, hopefully for only 18 more months! That aside, the rot, corruption, and incompetence in our federal government transcends political parties.

For those that haven’t been here long, or have memory issues. chang is an admitted and outed troll account. still outstanding satire and the occasional useful nugget. And a well crafted devils advocate. but Chang is not a general.

Released on a late Friday afternoon before the 4th of July holiday, close to a year after the report was finished...classy

It was a bit closer to the latter than most would like to admit. It was NOT just military members, Biden's directives (White House Policy Announcement), attempted to force (or lose your job and livelihood), 2/3 of the U.S. Population to get vaccinated: 1. All government civilian employees. 2. All employees of any company that had a government contract. 3. All health care workers at facilities participating in Medicare and Medicaid. 4. Via OSHA, ALL employees of companies that have more than 100 employees.

No kidding. Integrity is entirely absent in leadership. Remember when the current Chief of Staff and Pentagon Spokesman stood in front of the American people and knowingly lied about that drone strike that killed a bunch of kids during the pullout? I remember. They are still there and faced zero consequences.

I chuckled

I don't have a side.

False. California requires vaccines for kids to attend school (public or private). The only way to avoid a vaccine is home school. While not an issue or applicable to my family, I’d say there are a lot of dual-income required to live in CA families who have to send their kids to school, therefore, it’s effectively mandated for them. https://eziz.org/assets/docs/shotsforschool/PBEFAQs.pdf Thats a direct link from the CA Department of Public Health website: https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/Pages/Immunization/School/laws-exemptions.aspx#

You think it's hyperbole to say a forced vaccination campaign existed, yet you and I (along with millions of others) were both ordered to take the vaccine without proof it worked, at threat to our employment, and which data now shows was ineffective at preventing transmission. Then you say I should go to school, because presumably they can teach me statistics (although you don't elaborate on the relevance), and because school exists you won't engage in debate. Although you are engaged in debate... I hope you aren't like this in real life.

What a stupid fucking tweet, acting like there’s some conspiracy that McCain and Graham were over there in 2017 representing the US and defense aid to Ukraine. Do people not remember that Russia unilaterally invaded Ukraine through Crimea and several eastern provinces all the way back in 2014? This country is turning into a looney bin more and more every day. An unending parade of woke and social justice garbage from the left and sound bite conspiracy theories from the right. Awesome.

Outside of the military where orders come with the territory (and if you're not willing to subject yourself to them, get out), I have absolutely never been ordered to take a vaccine of any kind in my entire life. Neither have you or anyone else on this forum. The relevance of statistics is this: go to the COVID-19 thread and review all 150+ pages of posts. If you'd like to focus the review, check out that last few where there's nobody left but the militant anti-vaxxers that wrapped their identities in this issue (because everybody else moved on with their life 2.5 years ago). In the remaining echo chamber there's been a lot of 'dunking' going on by posting articles of anti-vax talking points with the insinuation that they've all been proven true. Never mind the dubious 'studies' that lend credence to the point being made. Never mind the dubious 'press' outfits latching on to them. I'll grant, for the sake of this argument, that every single one of them is accurate. The one thing you will never see is a rundown of comparative risk, because it blows any supposition they're trying to make out of the water. COVID vaccine is killing people via myocarditis? Cool, I'll grant it (for the discussion) despite all the problems with the statement. But at what relative rate is COVID vaccine killing people via myocarditis when compared to the rate of reduction in COVID complications? And yes, even in young, fit, healthy people (i.e. comparable to the military demographic). Not one time in 150 pages will you see an example of this science 101 question being addressed. Because it absolutely destroys the supposition of COVID vaccine harm of all types. I don't care about your fictional nephew whose anecdote you use of going complete retard after the vaccine to bolster your point (there were a staggering number of these shared on Baseops, you might say a probabilistically impossible number of them). At the national health level, individual cases don't matter. It's greatest good for the greatest number, and there is no reasonable alternative approach. For those of you who have a soil-your-pants level of fear over having the vaccine administered, I'll grant it legitimacy (again for the discussion). But you cannot logically also not have an explosive-diarrhea-pants-soiling-in-public fear of the consequences of not being vaccinated. Probability and statistics makes it undeniable. That's the relevance. But let's be honest, you're not interested in an honest approach. And just for the record, you shouldn't have a pants-shitting fear of the vaccine or not getting vaccinated. The relative risk of either is inconsequential when compared to other things you do on a daily basis. *BUT* you can not logically fear of one and not the other. You're referencing what 'extremists' do and think it invalidates my point? Maybe you should re-read what I said.

This is the craziest shyt I’ve ever read with a DoD letterhead. PDF link at the bottom. Leaked doc: https://www.dossier.today/p/confidential-biden-dod-memo-reveals WAMC - Womack Army Medical Center, Fort Bragg or whatever the woketards have named it.

Not really sure where this one goes...holy weirdness!

There's a wide gulf between "federal mandate for all citizens to get vaccinated" and "SECDEF ordered military members to get vaccinated"

I was looking at a map today depicting Russian and Ukrainian held territory. I’d like to calculate the number of square miles or kilometers, lost by Russia and recovered by Ukraine, per 1 Billion Dollars. I think it would be an interesting number. Anyone have any ideas? Here’s an article Putin somehow snuck into a notable Western media outlet. It’s worth a scan: Since Putin’s tanks crossed into Ukrainian territory last year, three options have been on the table for how this war would end: victory for one side or the other, a frozen conflict or a negotiated settlement. The public comments made this week by Oleksiy Arestovych, a former advisor to Volodymyr Zelensky’s chief of staff, appear to indicate the last may be more likely than previously thought. Arestovych raised the prospect of Ukraine making territorial concessions in return for the rest of the country receiving the most cast-iron security guarantee there is: Nato membership. These comments have proved highly controversial. Not only would such an outcome be unpalatable to many in Kyiv and other European capitals, raising it as a possibility highlights a growing uncertainty about the long-term sustainability of the war – particularly amongst Ukraine’s western backers. Arestovych’s suggestion comes at a crucial time. The long-planned counter-offensive, now in its second month, has run into several problems – not least that Kyiv is still waiting for approximately half of the western military equipment promised earlier in the year. Meanwhile, its forces are under increasing pressure to commit its reserves as Russian troops – despite reports of low morale across the front – remain dug-in, seemingly committed to defending every inch of Ukrainian ground captured since last year. As Russian minefields take their toll on western-supplied tanks and Ukrainian sappers, their forces have so-far retaken approximately five miles of the sixty miles they need to split the land-bridge connecting Russia to Crimea. The land between Mariupol in the east and Melitopol to the west is seen as the vital ground to achieving this. It is incredibly tough going for the Ukrainians. They lack the air cover and advanced jets to protect their ground forces from Russian attack helicopters and fighters. Their soldiers, meanwhile must negotiate miles of minefields, tank-traps and then ultimately the heavily dug Russian trench networks. This gruelling endeavour was always going to take longer than the occasionally impatient international audience was prepared to wait for. It is a military effort of immense proportions, where mass, manpower, morale, equipment, stocks, logistics, grit and luck all play vital roles. So far, the Ukrainians are displaying all of these military qualities. The variable that isn’t on their side is time. In war, time is perhaps the cruellest factor one cannot change. We saw this in NATO’s operation in Afghanistan, where the Taliban took great delight in the retelling of a famous Afghan proverb; ”you may have the watches, but we have the time”. Summer will soon begin to roll into autumn. Indeed, we are already half-way through the season. The fighting will begin to grind to a cold halt as the freezing winter saps troops’ ability to conduct high-intensity warfare. This will only give Russia more time to further build up its defences, as it did last winter. By this point in the West, meanwhile, all eyes will be on the upcoming US election, with more political attention diverted by the UK’s general election. Kyiv knows it has a shortened window of opportunity to capitalise on its battlefield initiative and take back as much ground as it can. If Kyiv fails in its battlefield endeavours to split that land bridge, and retake much of its own territory by winter, then vocal calls of territorial concessions for marginal political outcomes will likely become far more prevalent – not just in Ukraine but likely from western capitals, as so-called “war-fatigue” begins to bite, international stockpiles of equipment and ammunition wither and politicians begin to worry about domestic budgets ahead of national elections. While much fighting remains to be done across Ukraine’s southern farmlands over the coming months, governments across the west must be prepared for the grim prospect of territorial concessions as one potential political outcome of a failed counter-offensive. Whether a Putinist Kremlin would respect such a deal if Kyiv were to receive security pledges short of full Nato membership is extremely doubtful. Regardless, this would surely be a favoured outcome for China’s ruling “wolf warrior” foreign policy elite. Beijing would be utterly delighted if the war were to end with Ukraine divided, Russian troops permanently in the Donbas harassing Kyiv and Europe, and Nato fractured on political lines. Such an outcome would be a gift to China as Xi Jinping begins to ramp up his own imperialistic and extra-territorial ambitions across the Indo-Pacific – and a devastating defeat for the West.