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This isn't the military, you don't have to finish shit. If a player gets a career ending/hindering injury during a bowl game, is the college going to insure them for their potential career earnings losses? How much does the college make off of a bowl game, how much of that goes to the individual players? I'm not surprised the FSU players said fuck it, it was a jacked up decision and since they're not playing for a title, why risk it on a dumb bowl that doesn't mean shit? Then again, I was one of those who had zero problems with Manziel making money off his autographs and appearances. How much money did A&M make of him playing for them? Why shouldn't he be able to get in on the action? Too bad he was a d-bag and fucked it all away.

I see what you're saying and agree to a point, but the problem is bigger than FSU. I still think FSU should have sat out the bowl to highlight how messed up the process was. Can't blame the kids for sitting out when they got screwed out of a chance at the title. The NCAA basically said that they don't care what the FSU record was, the school didn't count because it wasn't SEC. The players got the message. I think this is a culture problem, but this would happen at almost any school right now in the same situation. Not a culture problem at FSU specifically (I detest all Florida teams, so this is painful for me to say), but a culture problem in college sports and our society at large. There is no real commitment anymore. Between the transfer portal and the ability for a kid to commit to a school only to "de-commit" and go to a different school, the NCAA has built a system that rewards continually shopping around for the best deal regardless of any commitment made. It is only a sad reflection on the rest of our sad society.

Happily let folks drop their dog's poop bag in my trash bin; grateful that they're at least picking it up. 👏 But then again, I don't wash and wax my trash bin so...🤷‍♂️ As a technique, I take my dog on a "short loop" prior to the full walk, so I can leave his leavings at home before we go.

Because you finish what you started...ABSOLUTELY a culture problem. At the first hint of trouble all the key FSU players ran for the door and themselves...that says something about a team. Meanwhile the vast majority of UGA's players stayed and PLAYED...one of the reasons they won Nattys back to back...FINISH what you started.

Quick thread off-ramp: SAC gave us a patch to wear on our jackets. When the staffing was done, it was given to Gen Chain for final approval. He ticked a checkmark on the drawing to signify he approved it. His staff saw the check and figured it was something he wanted added... and so they did. He had a reputation for being pretty gruff and supposedly none of his staff wanted to ask him about it.

Other than that, would you say he's an ok guy?

The below letter was written by Commander Robert A. Green Jr., U.S. Navy, and signed by 231 current and former Service Members from all branches of the United States Armed Forces. There was a time when I would have been put off by the tone and language here. Not anymore. I think it is entirely appropriate. https://freedomfighter1776.com/dma-accountability 1 January 2024 An Open Letter to the American People from Signatories of this Declaration of Military Accountability “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” –John Adams In the course of human events it sometimes becomes necessary to admonish the lawless, encourage the fainthearted, and strengthen the weak. We have reached just such a time in our history. The affairs of our nation are now steeped in avaricious corruption and our once stalwart institutions, including the Dept of Defense, are failing to fulfill the moral obligations upon which they were founded. Standing upon our natural and constitutional rights, we hereby apprise the American people that we have exhausted all internal efforts to rectify recent criminal activity within the Armed Forces. In the Declaration of Independence our founding fathers sought separation. We seek no separation, but through this letter and the efforts we pledge herein, we pursue restoration through accountability. We intend to rebuild trust and restore the rule of law, particularly within the Armed Forces. Ultimately, we strive to once again become a moral people, restoring our nation, and making it again worthy of the great gift of liberty won by the colonial-era American people. While implementing the COVID-19 vaccine mandate, military leaders broke the law, trampled constitutional rights, denied informed consent, permitted unwilling medical experimentation, and suppressed the free exercise of religion. Service members and families were significantly harmed by these actions. Their suffering continues to be felt financially, emotionally, and physically. Some service members became part of our ever-growing veteran homeless population, some developed debilitating vaccine injuries, and some even lost their lives. In an apparent attempt to avoid accountability, military leaders are continuing to ignore our communications regarding these injuries and the laws that were broken. For GEN Milley, ADM Grady, GEN McConville, ADM Gilday, ADM Lescher, Gen Brown, Gen Berger, Gen Smith, VADM Kilby, VADM Nowell, VADM Fuller, LTG Martin, Lt Gen Davis, MG Edmonson, GEN Williams, ADM Fagan, VADM Buck, Lt Gen Clark, MG Francis, LTG Dingle, Lt Gen Miller, RADM Gillingham, and numerous others; These individuals enabled lawlessness and the unwilling experimentation on service members. The moral and physical injuries they helped inflict are significant. They betrayed the trust of service members and the American people. Their actions caused irreparable harm to the Armed Forces and the institutions for which we have fought and bled. These leaders refused to resign or take any other action to hold themselves accountable, nor have they attempted to repair the harm their policies and actions have caused. Since there has yet to be any accountability, the undersigned give our word to do everything morally permissible and legally possible to hold our own leadership accountable. We intend to rebuild trust by demonstrating that leaders cannot cast aside constitutional rights or the law for political expediency. The flag and general officers are far from the only ones complicit in recent illegal activities, as a significant number of SES leaders and political appointees contributed. Evidence indicates that other executive agencies are engaging in illegal activity. However, as service members and veterans, we feel particularly responsible for the DoD and, in accordance with our oaths, we will make every effort to demonstrate by example, how an institution can put its own house in order. We the undersigned, on behalf of hundreds of thousands of service members and the American people, while appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for guidance and purity of intention, mutually pledge to each other that we will do everything in our power, through lawful word and action, to hold accountable military leaders who failed to follow the law when their leadership and moral courage was most desperately needed. In the coming years, thousands within our network will run for Congress and seek appointments to executive branch offices, while those of us still serving on active duty will continue to put fulfilling our oaths ahead of striving for rank or position. For those who achieve the lawful authority to do so, we pledge to recall from retirement the military leaders who broke the law and will convene courts-martial for the crimes they committed. For those of us who attain legislative offices, we pledge to introduce legislation to remove all retirement income for the military leaders who were criminally complicit, and we will ensure none serve in or retire from the Senior Executive Service. This endeavor will be a continuous process with a long-term time horizon, but fulfilling our oaths to defend the Constitution requires just such persistent vigilance. Likewise, we are obligated, and so commit, to train those who come after us to fulfill their duty in achieving this accountability and safeguarding against such leadership failures hereafter. Our nation was once great because it was good. It was built on moral principles founded in natural law and yet, the recent acceleration of moral relativism has us headed towards a precipitous implosion. While all good things come to an end, we refuse to allow our nation to go quietly into the depths of decadence and decay. We promise to exhaust all moral, ethical, and legal means to restore the rule of law and will begin by attempting to hold senior military leaders accountable. The Constitution is the supreme law of our land. We will fight to enforce that law and put an end to the two-tiered justice system. May future generations see our efforts and, God willing, may they also be recipients of the great gift of liberty that we have had the honor of safeguarding.

Well, if that’s what happened your unicorn dildo must’ve worked.

? Remember to use the right day's codes....👌 perhaps 🤔. @tac airlifter I'm pretty sure you know how to use one of those.

It's over 7000 signatures now. I signed it. I wonder how many are AD. If they punish one AD member, they'd have to punish them all.

Looks like somebody either let their intrusive thoughts win or tried suicide by jet engine at SLC. 😳 https://news.sky.com/story/amp/man-dead-at-salt-lake-city-airport-after-breaking-out-of-plane-and-climbing-in-engine-13041264

I think it’s only a matter of time when players will opt out of games during the season, as well. Looking at FSU’s schedule ( not a SOS discussion) but why wouldn’t those same players opt out of easy wins like North Alabama, Wake Forest, Syracuse, etc? They could get hurt in those games too. Also, I’ll bet within the next 5 years we’ll see kids going straight to NFL via some new league until they are done with the 3 year moratorium and never even play college.

In my experience, absolutely. I think generally guard leadership is really good about helping their people. You’re still in the mil, so it’s not a guarantee, but my guess is they are willing to forego you going at all, look around to find a volunteer from a different unit to fill the time you’d like to be home, etc. There’s usually a way to make it happen for important stuff like a birth.

Not happening.

You’re right, however UGA still would’ve boat raced FSU.

Well said, Brother Biff!!

I’ve always hated the weaponized Q3 thing but the one I really don’t get is the Q3/Q1 or whatever it’s called. I’d never heard of it until I went to AIS and a bunch of AMC guys had horror stories of busting a level off by 100’ and immediately correcting or other minor things and getting Q-3 then immediately Q1 with no further action. Total lunacy.

I hope Washington wins it all.

Wow. Fuck yea.

As the CC or DO, you (CAT 5) should be taking a long hard look in the mirror at your own leadership style if you feel like you need to hand out dozens of Q3s in your own damn squadron. I can’t imagine looking at my section and seeing a single Q3 let alone dozens.

yeah, it's one of two biggest lessons in Leadership I've learned the hard way early in my USAF career, at the hands of one of these toxic communities and their approach to Q3s. It really shaped and informed my future evaluation philosophy when I left for greener pastures and into the SEFE role in later life. I take great personal investment in being as objective as I can, and bring that holistic training opportunity into every evaluation debrief that doesn't warrant a chat with the commander. I can't fix the past, but I can influence the future of the young guys in a productive way. I'm willing to say we do a better job at that than my predecessors in said community. As such, my experience as a SEFE tracks closer to the experience of the 11Fs on here. It's a shame that punitive/quota-driven nonsense persists in the heavy world.

Make sure you say "SAC Warriors" with some respect.

I went to your link (which covered far more than 2015-2017, it was an exhaustive archive) and here is some of the hard hitting evidence provided that Trump is a Russian stooge and the pee tape might be real. This kind of stuff might be damming proof that Trump is a pro-Putin traitor to you, but I do not draw the same conclusions. Do you have anything post-Ukraine invasion, since that was the context of this discussion?

WTF is with all the command directed Q3s? I've gathered that the heavies seem to use them as punishment, but I know we didn't have a single one in my career at my squadron. A keg/equivalent booze and stand up in front of the squadron to brief the fuck up. Why put so many black marks on your people, when there are better ways to get your point across? I feel for these dudes who have to explain a Q3 in an interview when they can't say that their boss was the lead rower in the douche canoe.

HeloDude coming in defending the upstanding honor of 11Hs everywhere like...😂

Glad to know you’ve got such a good grasp on ground truth. I make no claims on understanding the root cause of the invasion…and there likely isn’t one such singularly cause. NATO expansion, demographics, a weak US president, rising US isolationism, EUROPEAN UNION SPINELESSNESS, good timing with Ukraine internal politics, Putin being megalomaniac, Russians being Russians? All of the above? But sure, go ahead and believe you’ve got it sorted. When you make claims like that, does it strike you at all as melodramatically black or white? Or do you genuinely believe it was solely ‘NATO expansion’? If so, why? *Side bar: NATO didn’t go out looking for new members. New members saw Russian aggression starting in Georgia during the GW era and started asking for membership. I know this because I worked in NATO, and membership was a hot topic. “NATO Expansion” is a known misnomer propagated by Russian media and intelligence agencies. Call it whatever, NATO expanded due to Russia invading its neighbors over the past 30 years.

Just increase the flow from Texas A&M, problem solved.

I’m currently on mil leave finishing up my retirement but looking at the January Bid lines out of Orlando they varied from 60-80 hours, some of them with 18 days off for the month. Since I’ve been gone for a couple years, I’m not sure what the high time flyers are getting, so I’ll leave that question for an active guy. Before I left though, the sky was the limit and as long as it was legal and you could put it on your board, you could bank $$$. Personally, life is great. I ended up having to take my ex back to court and won full custody of the kids (hence the reason I am putting the airline life on hold temporarily and finishing up the mil career). We are all extremely happy. I did end up getting remarried and she has been amazing and my kids all call her “mom”. My older two have pretty much nothing to do with their birth mom, and my youngest is the only one that goes for any sort of visitation. It’s funny what a little bit of wisdom, maturity and life experience will do for the second time around. Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app

so all you "nuanced analytical thinkers" won't address the root cause of Putin's motivation to go into ukraine: unchecked NATO expansion. some of you think putin woke up and decided on a whim to attack ukraine. it's ironic that you pat yourselves on the back as such strategic thinkers but have a massive blind spot