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Huge props to the folks at University of Florida. No doubt channeling @M2 when they published this masterpiece.

I hear you. There is a very pro 2A judge that keeps fighting back against the restrictions and it seems as though magazine round limits and ARs might be back on the table in the future. I remain cautiously optimistic.

My final thoughts are, pursue when absolutely necessary for the safety of the public. Public safety overrides your desire to catch someone for speeding. I know this is a double edge sword in regards to policies of no chasing probably leads to more runners. I've seen plenty of straight idiots leading police on 5 county 110+ mph chases all for a simple traffic violation or minor warrant. The folks who do this aren't smart criminals, they'll be caught very shortly, don't put my family or loved ones in danger to keep up with them at very high speeds in residential areas or busy highways. If you're dead set on pursuing the runner, end it as quick as possible. Don't chase them for 1/2 hour at high speeeds only to finally PIT them at the end. More cops need training/permission to do so, otherwise, don't pursue unless aboslutely necesasry. I appreciate cops. Have a few good friends that are cops. You couldn't pay me enough money to do what they have to do day in day out. That said, they are human and have egos and there are a lot that shouldn't have a badge. They don't engage their brain and take everything in prior to pursuing like in the above video. Have seen a lot of departments that have 'don't chase unless' policies and they back off after getting the plate. Half hour later they are found wherever because they are stupid and get arrested.

Wait, who put who at risk? The cops are always going to escalate. That's what they're paid for. All three of those guys have killed people. They didn't run because they thought they were getting busted for a minor drug charge. Don't be so naive.

According to the video description one guy in the truck being chased was suspected of drug possession, suspected. So to endanger all those people on that road was justified? In my opinion, no. I believe if we looked up the FHPs policy on high speed pursuit if it becomes a danger to the public, and this clearly was, then they disengage. If my family members were on that road the biggest threat was from the FHP. Did you see FHP at about 2:10? That was not a PIT attempt, that looked like Waltrip trying to put Dale into the wall. There were many close calls with citizens vehicles during that chase. The final successful PIT sent the FHPs car into another car. What if your family was in that car? Would you shake the troopers hand, thank him for keeping us safe, and pay for the damages to your car? That chase was some crazy shit. They should have called it off. Added, M2, I can't think of one of your posts that I've disagreed with. But this I do.

They may have found common ground at Bama.

AI Pilot leaves Air Force for Southwest Airlines

Today, May 3rd in perhaps one of the tone def actions taken by the Biden administration (and that is saying something), the U.S. Department of Education announced an investigation of Emory University over...."Anti-Muslim discrimination." Seriously, if you voted for this clown, punch yourself in the gonads, repeatedly. Weeks of campus protests calling for genocide and the destruction of Israel...this is the response.

FSU didn't fuck around either, I love living in the free state of Florida!

If you're talking about age 60 to 65, that isn't true. We only changed to 65 AFTER ICAO raised it to 65. They changed their age limit, circa 2006, based on data. Since you bring up the age increase, it's a good point to include. Those at the top knew about an upper the limit when they chose this career. They've already benefited from those leaving ahead of them AND they got 5 more years than they had planned. They also can continue to practice their craft, just not hauling the general public. I had to sit and listen to a senior WB FO lecture me about why I should support 67 because he "needs" it. Nothing to do with discrimination, he just said he was unable to save any money in his 401k because he "had to pay for college for 4 kids." My counter is you did not NEED to fully fund your kids college, you chose to do that. It's admirable, but a poor decision if you're choosing that over funding your own retirement. All he did was increase the likelihood that his kids will have to support him later in life. He could have funded part of college, while still saving...they'll make their own money. I told him I enlisted in the Guard to pay for college and offered contact information for my base recruiters. Others told me they didn't contribute to their 401k because they didn't think they should have to fund their own retirement. ...uhh wut?! If you don't think it's moral to have an age limit, then I can respect that. I disagree with it because we have all sorts of age limits for various reasons, of which most are value. But it's OK to disagree.

Hey now! It was the late 80s, and power ballads were all the rage! Would you believe Second Change was .38 Special's highest-charting song in the United States out of 25 singles released? It peaked at No.6 in May 1989 and spending 21 weeks on the chart!

Force Multiplier. Had this discussion years ago with a former military member who was a cop and that's what he called it. Few wanting to fund the cost was and is the issue. Avoid a few multi-million-dollar payouts and I say it's paid for itself. Of course, sophisticated/expensive unmanned systems are another though potentially reasonable discussion. When word gets out you can't outrun it you also have a potential deterrent effect to not run in the first place.

Ah, there we go. No point in continuing with you. Armed drug dealers? I think the murder-only threshold is too high. Contrary to popular belief, people who have just broken traffic laws don't often flee a traffic stop like that. I can happily engage with the idea that the terrible attempt at a pit maneuver should not have occurred, and the cops should have simply followed the suspects until they tired themselves out. Of course then if that truck had rammed into a bus full of orphans without police intervention, the police would still be blamed. In almost every one of the videos I've watched, the expired tags are why the crook is pulled over, not why they subsequently flee. There's usually an associated warrant. Either way, hard for the cops to know at the moment.

They are the same person. They've never been spotted in the same room together.

Cops are supposed to be the responsible ones here. This isn't Nam'.

In a lot of the situations yes. Simple speeding/fleeing. Shoplifting. Expired tags. I could direct you to about a thousand chase videos showing it. So if its your daughter that gets plowed into by a cop, you're good with the result? Got a dope head off the street for 24 hours. Probably worth it.

Well… according to the info on the YouTube post, these guys were being chased because they failed to pull over for a traffic stop… initiated to investigate drug possession. So yeah, the folks in the truck are idiots because they chose to run… but putting innocent bystanders at risk to conduct an investigation of a non-violent crime police THINK is occurring: that’s not proportional. That’s fucking dumb.

Third option - carry a multitude of gun options in an IWB holster behind your hip…t shirt, jacket, who gives a shit. As long as it’s not a crop top and your not trying to pack a full size frame, you’ll be fine.

The real reason I was on this thread... 🤣🤣

Do you thing those being chased simply shoplifted at a Walmart? People don't get pursued like that unless they've committed a serious crime and are a threat to society. It was proportional to the situation. Had your family member been their victim, or would be a victim after the police let them get away, you'd feel a lot different about it! The stupid ones are those that flee, not the cops chasing them! It's their decision to endanger everyone on the road, not the police's.

The amount of traffic on the road?

Does something happen after 8 minutes that changes the story? I'm not sure how you watched that and thought the cops were the idiots in the situation.

Shocking that all these universities are located in Democrat run locales......

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This thread is a massive disappointment. I thought we were going to compare the USAF BX to the USMC PX where you could still find Hustlers and Harleys on display front n center.

I’ll take “Phrasing that is blessedly not part of my vernacular” for $800, Alex

There are several different threads I could post this, but since this one has been quiet lately, here it goes: So the Chair of the Council of Economic Advisers, the main agency advising Biden on economic policy, doesn’t really understand how the government borrows its own money.

Stupid fucking cops.