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The kid is going to lose his shit if the 35's, Hornets and Vipers get the kills and he left holding a balloon (marking).

There's always at least two sides to every story. What I see is the product of someone who wasn't raise right nor trained in concealed carry correctly meeting what appear to be either poorly trained or poorly disciplined law enforcement agents. One of the things that was hammered into me in the multiple carry trainings I've done is that the first interaction you have with a law enforcement officer in the wild is stating "I'm concealed carrying" with a full description of where the weapon is while making no threatening movements. In short order I'd fully expecting to be disarmed and possibly restrained depending on the situation. I'm perfectly ok with being disarmed as it's for everyone's safety. We're on the same team: defending public safety. This guy was carrying, while recording, and then actively stepped between the police and someone they were interacting with. Wrong on so many levels. On the opposite side, 7 v 1 with one guy disarming the individual while not effectively communicating that he's done so all in the span of seconds with heated words and actions is a hell of a chaotic situation. It did not look like a well led and organized response to what had been a non-lethal event. But non-lethal goes lethal real fast. That's the end of my speculation with one caveat. I had the opportunity to do shoot/don't shoot live role playing training with sims. I failed all 5 scenarios, which is, according to the instructor, absolutely normal for a normal dude off the street. I came away knowing I needed more training. Use of force events are messy, complicated, confusing events with split-second decision making bearing life-long consequences for all involved. It convinced me that I have no place critiquing cops in shooting events. I am, however, fully convinced this is exactly the kind of event the extreme left agitators have been wanting out of all this so they can beat the drum of tyranny, get a political win by twisting the media narrative, then press their advantage once political leadership caves. It's all straight out of "Rules for Radicals: A Practical Primer for Realistic Radicals" by Saul Alinsky, which is the baseline organizers/agitator playbook. It's a disgusting abuse of ignorant, but largely innocent, protestors in the streets. The article from the marine highlighting that this is well organized and more of an insurgency than activism seems to fit the more I learn.

90% of these issues would be prevented if these state/local govts would just cooperate with DHS and hand over the convicted criminals with deatiners already. It's all planned.

Interesting take........ Former Special Forces Warrant Officer gives his take on Minnesota protests: "What’s unfolding in Minneapolis right now isn’t 'protest.' It’s low-level insurgency infrastructure, built by people who’ve clearly studied the playbook." [As a former Special Forces Warrant Officer with multiple rotations running counterinsurgency ops—both hunting insurgents and trying to separate them from sympathetic populations—I’ve seen organized resistance up close. From Anbar to Helmand, the pattern is familiar: spotters, cutouts, dead drops (or modern equivalents), disciplined comms, role specialization, and a willingness to absorb casualties while bleeding the stronger force slowly. What’s unfolding in Minneapolis right now isn’t “protest.” It’s low-level insurgency infrastructure, built by people who’ve clearly studied the playbook. Signal groups at 1,000-member cap per zone. Dedicated roles: mobile chasers, plate checkers logging vehicle data into shared databases, 24/7 dispatch nodes vectoring assets, SALUTE-style reporting (Size, Activity, Location, Unit, Time, Equipment) on suspected federal vehicles. Daily chat rotations and timed deletions to frustrate forensic recovery. Vetting processes for new joiners. Mutual aid from sympathetic locals (teachers providing cover, possible PD tip-offs on license plate lookups). Home-base coordination points. Rapid escalation from observation to physical obstruction—or worse. This isn’t spontaneous outrage. This is C2 (command and control) with redundancy, OPSEC hygiene, and task organization that would make a SF team sergeant nod in recognition. Replace “ICE agents” with “occupying coalition forces” and the structure maps almost 1:1 to early-stage urban cells we hunted in the mid-2000s. The most sobering part? It’s domestic. Funded, trained (somewhere), and directed by people who live in the same country they’re trying to paralyze law enforcement in. When your own citizens build and operate this level of parallel intelligence and rapid-response network against federal officers—complete with doxxing, vehicle pursuits, and harassment that’s already turned lethal—you’re no longer dealing with civil disobedience. You’re facing a distributed resistance that’s learned the lessons of successful insurgencies: stay below the kinetic threshold most of the time, force over-reaction when possible, maintain popular support through narrative, and never present a single center of gravity. I spent years training partner forces to dismantle exactly this kind of apparatus. Now pieces of it are standing up in American cities, enabled by elements of local government and civil society. That should keep every thinking American awake at night. Not because I want escalation. But because history shows these things don’t de-escalate on their own once the infrastructure exists and the cadre believe they’re winning the information war. We either recognize what we’re actually looking at—or we pretend it’s still just “activism” until the structures harden and spread. Your call, America. But from where I sit, this isn’t January 2026 politics anymore. It’s phase one of something we’ve spent decades trying to keep off our own soil.] - Eric Shwalm

I think disarming you with no reason is the opposite of everyones safety and not legal.

Lol. Of course if was it was an accidental discharge. It was a P320!

@Lord Ratner and @brabus already nailed it earlier. What we are seeing is useful idiots being useful. Yes, people have a right to protest and to have their voices heard, but in active law enforcement operations, law enforcement has the authority - which is something that people on the left just do not accept or comprehend. I'm not sure which. People have chat-grouped, reddited, or otherwise brained themselves into thinking that they can do whatever the hell they want and label it protesting and hence somehow legally insert themselves into some sort of "referee?" position that gets to be there calling balls and strikes, but then who also get to lightly skirmish at will when the play isn't going according to their own rule set? People have mistaken rights with license, which is a distinction that you're supposed to learn while writing civics essays in junior high school. Both Renee Good and Pretti appear to be people who never matured past their teenage rebellion years. Should either be dead? No. Do they deserve to have been killed? No. Did they engage in actions that led directly to their tragic, but justified deaths? Unfortunately, yes. I understand and accept that law enforcement is made up of people. People are imperfect. I see frat all the time in the sim. Thus, if I were to engage in such a protest, if things started to go sideways, I would immediately be completely compliant and non-threatening. You wouldn't see me struggling on the ground with 4 other officers while I was armed with a handgun. But this is also instructive as to the actual tactic and strategy being employed by the Left. Push things just far enough into the grey zone, that you provoke a violent or emotional response. Thus, Good and Pretti have done well, and served their purpose for the Left. Unfortunately, just like in 2020, this is part of a larger, coordinated operation meant to destabilize and delegitimize the government. The Federal government is helping somewhat, but then again, so is the Minnesota government. @Negat0ry is not worth responding to directly. The false equivalence between what Kyle Rittenhouse did along with whatever happened in Charlottesville is null and void right out the gate. No such struggles with law-enforcement took place. Even the terrorist MFer who ran over people at that protest in VA (useful idiot) surrendered peacefully. The difference is stark and could not be more clear. On the right, you have a true, grassroots, non-violent, response to the state abdicating its law-enforcement responsibility; the other is communist agitation which is apparently being sanctioned and coordinated by members within our government.

I'm not defending pulling a gun after the guy was on the ground and apparently disarmed. I'm also not accusing, as it all happened very quickly. Just like some of the anti-police people back in the late 90's and early 2000's that were run through police training simulators and all ended up shooting unarmed people in the sim. Easy to hit pause on a video and say 'at this exact point, the individual is no longer a threat, so the shooting that took place 1/2 second later is unjustified'. Pretti approached law enforcement in the situation where a hostile mob was developing. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to know that's a terrible idea. If you want to protest and film, stand on the other side of the street and use the zoom function on your phone. I'm a big 2A guy, but I also keep in mind when I'm armed and am in proximity to law enforcement and that affects my actions. If possible, I avoid being in any situation where I'm armed and within 20 feet, let alone walk up to them with a hostile attitude or insert myself into what they're doing. If the situation gets out of control and I find myself in a bad situation with law enforcement (armed or not) and they are yelling commands at me, that is not the time to show how tough I am. You comply as deliberately and calmly as possible and wait for vindication in court. To do anything else, especially while armed, is stupid and you are putting your own life at risk. Not saying that it is entirely his fault, but Pretti apparently made a series of poor decisions that put his life at the mercy of another person's single decision. A person that was likely very stressed after being constantly targeted by hostile mobs and was probably minimally trained. Or if MN as a state would cooperate with the Feds like most states are, the Feds wouldn't feel the need to do a surge like this.

Interestingly, Alex Pretti, Renee Goode and Laken Riley would ALL be alive if not for Joe Biden's open border policy.

Doh! NASA Canberra gear up landing today.