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Milton’s post is spot on. I don’t care how politically incorrect it is to say, the next war in Europe is more likely to be caused by Islam. Putin and Russia is a side show. A cultural civil war in Western Europe would be devastating but is absolutely a risk on the path they’re on. Islam is not compatible with western values. The sooner we realize that as a collective society, the better western society will be.

Maybe you should read the actual debates the framers of the 14th amendment had. Neither the declaration of Independence nor the original Constitution addresses this situation, which is exactly why the 14th amendment had to be written. Thank God the founding fathers knew that we would one day have you to be the sole interpreter of their wisdom 🤣😂 I'm not sure how you can have an ad hominem against a political group, but okay. It also happens to be true. As far as the forum for identifying yourself as a citizen, I will accept the least formal and most rapid forum that results in a negligible number of improper citizen deportations. Since you've been unable to identify a single recent case of an American citizen being improperly deported, we could just assume that it hasn't happened. As for the historical cases, those all sound about right. I especially liked the part where the deported citizens got hundreds of thousands of dollars in compensation for the government screw up. I'd be happy to 10x that penalty for any citizen involved in a similar miscarriage of Justice. That's not justification to tear it all down. There will always be fuck ups. Until then, from the time you are approached by the authorities (first opportunity), to the time you spend in a detention center awaiting processing with translators available (second opportunity), to an informal meeting with an immigration officer where you are allowed to make your case with phone and Internet access (third opportunity), to the time it takes to board your deportation flight (fourth opportunity), that would be plenty. But again this is all just an exercise false ignorance. You know damn well that proving citizenship isn't a problem. This is functionally identical to the voter ID debates that have been held in such bad faith by the left that it is almost beyond comprehension. It takes the same level of fake stupidity to believe that black people in America don't have access to identification as it does to believe that immigrants don't have access to proof of legal status. Do you have any immigrants in your family? My mother still has her green card number memorized. This just isn't a thing.

As we inch closer to the mid-terms the left will continue to bang the "Orange Man Bad" drum while working in the background to dismantle America. The Virginia governor serves as the shinning beacon of that effort and could be in the mix for the next Presidential race. Despite claiming to be a moderate and refusing to condemn her racist Attorney General whose tests included death threats to an opponent's kids. She is off and running with extreme left policies including an attempt to get around SCOTUS with gun control Signed on May 14, this law prohibits the import, sale, manufacture, purchase, or transfer of certain semiautomatic firearms and magazines holding more than 15 rounds. Now she has signed a law designed to kill the Electoral College. Next will be an attempt to tax UNREALIZED Capital Gains.

This MOU is hot garbage. It’s also not a deal and pretty much meaningless. The obvious reason Trump signed this POS is the midterms coming up. We did well for 40 days, then the train went off the tracks with a dumb idea of a ceasefire. Should have never happened, and it just keeps getting worse with this latest thing.

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Don't conflate me with other people on this forum. I think that cop thread is a bunch of absolute nonsense. A few bad apples in an otherwise incredibly functioning system, but because the algorithm knows what makes you angry, once you go down that rabbit hole all you'll ever see are cops abusing people's rights. It's a waste of time, as are most exercises dystopian fantasy. I don't care about the school bombing either. Shit happens in war. If A single government official got on the news and high-fived each other and talked about how awesome it was to kill a bunch of little girls (you know, like the Palestinians do), then I'd have a problem. But since I'm a grown-up who served in the military, I know that collateral damage, even mistakenly, sometimes happens. Only children assume that you can build a system free from error or tragedy. Even more ironically, all this hand ringing over the girls school in a country that would happily slaughter my daughter as a heretic if they had half the chance. Don't forget if any of those girls had grown up to be raped in Iran, she'd have an honor killing to look forward to, if she was able to escape the Iranian justice system with proof that she wasn't a willing participant. Spare me. And as far as being disingenuous goes, that's pretty rich. Focusing on the negligible number of citizens who have been swept up in a solution (and not deported) that has been a long time coming is just a distraction. Just be honest, you don't want illegal aliens deported. That's fine, you are allowed a political opinion as much as anyone else, but trying to make it a morality play by over hyping the anomalies because you know that the core argument has no foundation in law, history, or morality, is weak tea.

According to Google, Missouri's per capita income is $67,587 while GB's purchasing power parity (not exactly apples to apples, but pretty close) is $67,559. But however fast we are to throw rocks at Europe for their massive social welfare states, we need to be just as fast hitting ourselves over the nugget with those same rocks. GB spends an insane 22.1% of their GDP on social programs. By comparison, the United States only spends 22.7%. You read that right, the theoretical bastion of individual freedom and capitalism spends MORE on social spending per GDP than the UK, Norway, Iceland, Australia, Ireland, Netherlands, Luxembourg, and New Zealand. Much of Europe spends more, like France at >30% and Germany at almost 27%. The west is taxing and nanny stating itself into irrelevance. https://www.oecd.org/en/data/dashboards/social-expenditure-dashboard.html I think you're spot on with the rest of the social stuff, in which the EU leads the US by a good 6-9 years. Maybe beating the war drum might wake up the population to look around and wonder who would actually fight for the country. Walk down the streets of London and I don't see many eligible draftees, let alone ones that I would trust handing a gun and fighting next to me.

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Do you really think that this is just about figuring out whether or not the people are illegals or not? You think that's what the deportation judges are doing, looking for clues to figure out if they accidentally scooped up a citizen? Come on, you can't really think that, right? You think that in 2026, with the most unfathomably complex surveillance tools ever imagined by man, the real problem we are having is figuring out who is a citizen and who isn't? Exactly how many citizens are being accidentally deported? You ever met someone who had a hard time proving that they were a citizen? Lol, talk about bad faith.

The left doesn’t want to deport people who have been determined to be here illegally, so let’s not pretend this is a legitimate debate going on today.

The best fighter pilots in the world have been trained on an old piece of shit for decades. Stress and repetition, that's all you need. I'll take the graduating pilot who spent 300 hours in an analog dinosaur that kept him at the edge of his ability over the one with 100 hours in a state of the art, modern-day-relevant Gucci trainer. Cheap, simple, plentiful, and fast. That's all we need. But as usual, every acquisition is a vanity project for the good-idea fairies we call generals.

What I don't get is, why anyone here supports/defends/thinks this deal is good (enough), let alone think that this deal satisfies the goal of all the military action/lose of life, etc. I don't get it.

Straw man. You should re-read the declaration of independence and the constitution. You do not understand them. In what forum will you be proving this and to whom? Ad-hominin