Scooter14

Before this totally blows up... We had it in the Air Combat Command RC-135 as well. IIRC, you got a day for every 7 you were gone. So, you'd get about 6 for a 45 day trip. We were LDHD, so it was kind of a revolving door. Gone 30-45, PMCR for a week, 2 weeks in the office, a week of mission planning/outprocessing, back on the road. Rinse, repeat. Maybe we regurgitated our food, as it was so eloquently stated, but we weren't out looking for a fast buck. $3.50 a day about covered more than half of my trips in the RC. I don't remember the reg governing PMCR, maybe it was 11-2RC-135, I don't know. Didn't care. I took the time I needed to get my shit in one sock (pay the bills, Peter Duncan day, mow the lawn, unfucked my body clock - pre Ambien days) and got back to work in a few days. So, what you're telling me Rainman, is if a Hawg squadron gets home on a Wednesday afternoon from 120 days in Kerblekistan, EVERYONE has to show up for work Thurs morning if they are not on leave? I'm not trying to get into a pissing contest, I'm genuinely wondering if this is the case.

I had to wear mine a few weeks ago. One word - tiiiight. I need to run my fat ass around the block a few times. I got the https://www.militaryribbons.net/ ones. They did a nice job. You can set the whole thing up online. They know the regs, so let's say you have the AFOUA, but more than 4 devices on it, they know to attach a subsequent AFOUA, even though it doesn't show up. The people who I called on the phone were super nice. I tried to order the ones out of AF Times with that coupon, mil-thin or whatever, but the 15% promo code didn't work. Even with the 15% discount, I think they were still more expensive. After multiple attempts, I went with Sharper Image. I managed to butcher my ribbons every time I tried to move them. I'd rather just order a set every few years. With the way the AF hands out all these stupid Expeditionary medals/ribbons, you'll never keep up anyway.

i used capital letters and punctuation in my application and it worked real well but i didnt get the slot i don't know why Dude, once you bind it, it's done. You can't update it without it looking like crap. Why not enclose awards/decs? OK, if you're wearing service dress, the ribbons speak for themselves, but if you were the top MX troop of the quarter and you also won top loader at William Tell, where does that ribbon go? How will they know to ask? If you're gonna pick a time to blow your own horn and show you are the best, I would argue that a UPT interview would probably be the time to do it. Think of it as a promotion board, especially if you are not an officer already. Make sure your shit is in one sock. You're opening up a can of worms with the "personal picture" thing. Like Rainman said, it doesn't matter what you look like. Your credentials should speak for themselves. That should paint the picture. he interview is when they will see how you have put your uniform together, how you conduct yourself. If the unit requires a pic...whatever. I'd just put in something generic. If you want to give the board a good laugh and then watch your app move over to the "check out this dork" pile, enclose that "hero shot" of you with one leg up on PA 28-140 N47979 at the FBO in your jeans and your leather jacket or you in your crisp white CFII shirt sporting the Ray Bans. Or, better yet, the one of you kickin it with your bros sippin a cold Keystone Light. Yum.

Completely agree with kmgraham79. Call the guy. Don't sound like a dumbass..."uh, how do I put my stuff together?" Ask "I have put a lot of thought into my app, and I want to make it stand out. What are you/the board looking for in an app?" When I was the hiring guy, I wouldn't give advice unsolicited. However, if the applicant was genuinely interested and asked the right questions, I was there to help. Personally, I hated bound apps or apps in a 3 ring binder. Took up too much room. They don't stack neatly, they slide off each other and they wouldn't fit in my drawer where I filed them. That pissed me off. You don't want the hiring guy pissed off at you. Here's my opinions (these are mine and mine only): 1) Should I get this thing professionally bound? No. It should look nice and be well organized. Professionally bound sounds like it will be big and bulky 2) If so, how should the OPRs be included? Split up so front and back are facing up? Just slide each one in it's own page cover. Don't bother splitting them up 3) Should each page be laminated? NO! We had a guy do this. We didn't hire him (not because it was laminated - other reasons). I would shred the packages of the folks we didn't hire and didn't update their apps or were ineligible for further boards due to age, scores, etc. I was able to shed them all...except his. 4) Should each page be removable? Yes. Our DO takes the info out of the packages of the folks we hire and puts it in their PIF. 5) Photo: official head shot, or something casual like skiing, etc? Sure, if you want your photo up all over the squadron after you get hired. We have "Mini Bob" in scheduling. He comes out every April and October to remind people to get ther semi annual requirements done. 6) Flying Class 1A....The copy I have is not stamped, does this matter? Not at this point. I would try to acquire a stamped copy if it has been approved by the AETC/SG 7) Awards and Dec's...should I mention anything? Yes. Absolutely. Put in a copy of that nice ribbon rack thing from vMPF if you want. Be ready for the board to ask you what each ribbon is for and which one, if any, is important to you. Let them know if you were the XXX of the quarter/year. Finally...READ THE DIRECTIONS! If the application (if there is one) says Please Type...don't use a pencil. BL: Make it neat, organized and durable. At my unit, each board member leafs through the apps multiple times. The coordinator will also go through it repeatedly. If you want to update it, make that easy to do. If your pages are laminated and professionally bound, and then you save someone from drowning at the base pool, how are you going to add that to your app? A simple report cover with a clip or SMALL rings should suffice. Plastic sheets for the pages. Nice paper for the resume, cover letter, etc. Bring your files to Kinkos, MBE, etc and spend the $10 to print them out on a no shit laser printer, or do it at work.

It sure saves ass pain. I was thinking about my resonse and why the AD doesn't do that. Besides the fact that the AD likes to make things more complicated (trust me, the ANG can too), if you are at a base where there are multiple squadrons (my base only has one) and you interfly the jets, then it may be worth just bringing your own pubs unless OGV took care of it. You'd have to run it out of Base Ops or some location where every crew went before they stepped to ensure the pubs got there, or you'd be driving pubs bags to 69 different tails. At a place like the Died, where jets min turn every day and the staff is maxed out already, there simply isn't time to post changes, so it's best for the crew to just have their own. I think it could work at a place like MacDill or Robins, though...

LT4Life, Your argument holds no water. We leave ours on the jet. We have a Stan/Eval guy responsible for updating them. Each jet has a bag with the tail # on it. When a change comes out, a message gets posted on the mission planning room board. Each crew stepping to fly is instructed to bring in the pubs bags. The booms take care of this. The pubs guy then goes and grabs them off of the remainig aircraft. He changes them out, then he puts the bags in the room by the door. This is the booms last stop...they check to see if any bags need to go out to the jet. If the pubs bag with our assigned tail # is there, we grab it and bring it out to that jet. Every year, we gather round the new guys and do the page count. Takes all day, but then you are done for the next 364. When I go to fly, I take a helmet bag with my headset, checklist, gloves, survival kit, sandwich, bottle of soda and my binder of gouge that I have accumulated over the years. That's it. Sure beats lugging all that shit out to the jet every time you fly. And I have NEVER missed a receiver due to pubs.

In regards to the whole "reporting in" thing, here's what you want to do... When you turn your app in, ask the guy who is accepting the applications what the process is. Chances are that guy is a recent UPT grad and went through the process recently and knows the ROE. My unit does not require reporting in. As a matter of fact, you'd probably frighten us if you did. You should be calling the unit on a semi regular basis anyway, so just simply ask. If there is no coordinator, ask the DO, chief pilot or someone "in the know." I know when guys visit my unit, I'll take them around and introduce them since they made the effort to stop by. Most of the time a member of the hiring board is kicking around and will probably identify themselves as such. By all means pick their brains a little. Find out all you can. Be tactful, don't ask what the questions are gonna be, but try to gain some insight into the process. Remember, there are no stupid questions, only stupid people.