Scooter14

That statement is only partially correct. While we (tankers) can get a mission accomplished, the training value of the sorties is almost zero with passgengers on board. We are prohibited from performing any touch and go landings, upgrade/requal training, or simulated emergency procedures with passengers on board. So, for training we'll get the sortie, A/R, and 1 to a full stop. We normally like to get 6-8 approaches, some 3 engine work, etc so having pax pretty much kills the sortie for us. It's good publicity for the USAF and fun for the pax...but the crew is basically taking one for the team. Since tanker units typically generate fewer sorties than fighter units, having 1-2 orientation rides a week can really f*ck up the training schedule.

Riiiiiight, I knew it was something like that :rolleyes:

Well, that settles it. Press on with BRAC, retire the Vipers, buy as many F-22's as you can with a limited budget and bring on the UCAVs. If India did so well in that last exercise, Cope whatever the hell it was, it will be interesting to see how they employ this new technology. I hope they come out with a KC-135OVT.

How about baseops.net Under Armour (or reasonable facsimilies). I like C-17's idea. Baseops.net tees on the USO girls, Hooters girls, etc, etc, etc. I like the pic server idea.

Amen to that. I have seen what Bergman is talking about, and it never ceased to amaze me. I would be done studying and ready to go, and they are still typing every last detail of the sortie onto their lineup card.

You know, I didn't go on the flight, and that thought didn't even cross my mind. Incredibly low SA on my part!

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Green Zone...Green Bay...whatever. That's classic!

OMG! That's ****ing hilarious! I'll be over his house on Wednesday. I wish I could drop down that low with a Hawg on each wing. Unfortunately, the humor of the ensuing noise complaint would be far outweighed by the ensuing ass chewing we would get. Besides, I don't think I have seen a TPC or JOG chart since UPT. Too bad you guys don't fly Thuds or something REALLY loud. At least he called ya sir... [ 30. July 2005, 21:12: Message edited by: Scooter14 ]

I don't have a bead on a reg, but I suspect it would be a 36 seried personnel AFI in the AF. Since you are already commissioned, it should be a transfer of that commission to the new service. WO's are the ones that run into problems going to the AF. I know a Navy LCDR who transferred to the ANG and he was 40. They made him a Major no problem. He also went through FWQ at Vance. I know for a fact there is no age limit there.

I love Tower's reply..."Huh, you're breaking out to the north?" I bet the fireball clued him in a few seconds later. Anyone know the outcome, both guys make it out OK?

Actually, WX, these are the phrases I heard over and over again in AETC and on Active Duty that, much like the phrases you mentioned, are as old and tired as that song "Ordinary, Average Guy" by Joe Walsh. I'm sure it was fresh and original a long time ago, but now "My Maserati does 185, I lost my license now I don't drive" is just gay.

Sounds like it's turning into PSAB all over again. I don't get it. Thumrait was no hat, no salute, wear whatever you wanted (within reason) in tent city, no big deal. PSAB was always "you're floppy hat is not floppy enough" or somethng gay like that. We had a First Shirt try to chew out my CP because his ID card was not being worn properly in that ID holder thing you wear around your neck. Well, the problem was, the chow hall was upwind of our dorm, and the winds were about 30 kts. An ID card, believe it or not, will be blown (sts) backwards if you are walking into the wind. Well, we can't move the chow hall and we can't change the weather, but some pencil neck in starched DCU's on the "Pride Patrol" is gonna chew ass because your ID card is around your neck behind you.

Wxpunk, I applaud you for your "outside the container" thinking. It can be a real "dog and pony show" with all these phrases being repeated by a "cast of thousands." I really got "a warm fuzzy" that this behavior will cease. I'm glad you "have the hammer" on this one.

degarbage, If you were Title 10 AD in support of OEF/OIF/Noble Eagle, then you should be qualified for one year of coverage for every 90 consecutive days of AD. 1 year will equal 4 years. You need to sign up by Oct 28th if you came off orders prior to 26 April 05. Also, you have to be in the reserve component for those 4 years you are receiving the coverage. Altus is an AD base. Amn Snuffy at the customer service counter will probably have no idea what you are talking about. They do have that SMSgt in the TRS who is the Guard/Reserve Liaison, kind of a First Shirt . He may have the info on the Tricare for Reservists.

Snake, Yes it is. They just had some big investigation or something, and I don't think they can even offer the plans anymore. But, regardless, stay away from First Command.

I know my UPT was under Title 32. School orders are typically state Active Duty. This will NOT qualify you for the above coverage.

Which relative flew tankers?

Every now and then, I like to wander into the ROTC/OTS lounge and add my $0.02, only to get my ass handed to me. Once again, I stand corrected. So, remove the sarcasm, and your footwear probably does set a good example for the GMC. [ 16. July 2005, 21:38: Message edited by: Scooter14 ]

That must be setting a great example for the GMC

What? I rolled mine all the time. The problem is when 2Lt's **** up the sleeve roll and it's uneven or halfway down your arm and you look like a jackass. (Dad was Army, he taught me the right way to do it. I also tuck my pants into the boots. Sue me.) I wore my BDU's and DCU's quite often for a crewdog, too. Is that some new 2Lt rule I was never clued in on?

Your records go to an ARB (Aeronautical Review Board) and they get you your Air Force wings. From what I heard (no reference, word of mouth) is that the ARB looks at your records then cuts you AF Rotary Wing Aeronautical Orders. To then fly AF fixed wing aircraft, you attend the course at Vance, but you are wearing AF wings the whole time you are there.

Easy now. lol It should be left hand turns with the fuel dump switch activated for the smoke effect

If you want to be an airline guy, DEFINITELY go to the aviation colleges. If you want to be in the Air Force, DEFINITELY change your e-mail address.

Look out for yourself, but don't bone some alternate and a Guard unit who may have already bought your slot because you know you're gonna go AD anyway. Guard units are looking for folks to be there for a while. If you want to go AD, they don't really need you, do they? [ 10. July 2005, 21:23: Message edited by: Scooter14 ]