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okay, so that probably wasn't the best example, but my point is the same.

By this are you implying that Kinzinger doesn't have American interests in the front of the mind? Or do you mean that he isn't a good Republican because he didn't "kiss the ring?" Because did you read the article?

C'mon. This is the kind of divisive rhetoric that keeps us from discussing issues as a country. My guess is that we fall in line with a lot more policy than you'd realize.

I'm a Never Trumper, but have never been an Orange Man Bad-er. There's a difference I believe. Also, this is a hot-button culture war topic that isn't representative of all of Biden's policies, just as children in cages wasn't a representation of all of Trump policy.

Too many politicians have joined the Trump-as-Jesus-Christ cult that has also swept the nation. Not that all Trump voters act this way, but the emergence and strength of the QAnon cult is evidence that there is a good percentage that believe this. It’s going to be an uphill battle and I wouldn’t be surprised if Kinzinger gets primaried by a Margorie Greene type. I hope this isn’t the case. I’m a big Crenshaw fan on policy and Kinzinger fan on leadership.

The message needs to be: vaccination is the way to beat the virus and the lockdowns. This negative message (you can’t travel if not vaccinated) is unhelpful. This Atlantic article discusses the importance of messaging. https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/618147/

Still not a single word from the chain of command that I’m aware of. Seems like the firing of the boss should result in a least a Sq/CC message to the troops.

Just as you voted for Trump who espoused ideas and policies you disagree with, so too can Biden voters vote for Biden and not agree with all his positions. One does not become more righteous than another.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/02/man-who-refused-bow/618156/ “Kinzinger’s stance has earned him some critics. One of Trump’s fawning court pastors, Franklin Graham—the son of the prominent evangelical preacher Billy Graham—attacked the 10 Republicans who supported impeachment. “It makes you wonder what the thirty pieces of silver were that Speaker Pelosi promised for this betrayal,” Graham wrote on Facebook. “He said we took pieces of silver from Nancy Pelosi because—what?” Kinzinger asked me. “Trump is Jesus Christ? Christians have got to open their eyes and be like, ‘What is happening?’” ... “But while what happened to Kinzinger may be extreme, he is hardly alone; politics is placing stress on countless relationships among friends and family, and shattering more than a few. “Do you have any advice for people struggling to reach people they love at moments like this?” I asked. “What would you say on the interpersonal side of things? How can repair and reconciliation go forward?” “It’s a tough one,” Kinzinger conceded. “Because I say, on the one hand, try to have compassion for them; they’re brainwashed. It’s true, but I also know truthfully that if I’m talking to somebody that is saying what they’re saying and I know they’re brainwashed, it doesn’t help me look at them any better. I’m just being honest.” As we spoke, it became clear that Kinzinger was still trying to understand what’s going on beneath the anger and the hate, even as he has become its target. One clinical psychologist told me when the letter was published that Kinzinger was on the receiving end of a textbook cultlike response: remove yourself from the devil, cut the person off from the family, prove devotion to leader and mission.”

Wouldn’t there be an arrest record if there were a sexual assault? I understand that for PR reasons a credible accusation of sexual assault would be cause for loss of command, but damn.

Laughlin right now

I doubt it remains experimental for long.

That's rich, dude. Rich.

Dude, you're being pedantic. It was a flippant, off-hand remark. You win.

Sure, if I were writing a masters thesis on the topic.

I don't know, man. What's your point?

This seems like a pretty unfair, broad stroke of police. I don't believe most police are racist (or assholes) But there are ways that police forces can better train their officers to prevent unnecessary death. Saying that de-escalation training is pointless is like telling aircrew that CRM training is worthless.

I'm simply suggesting that the evidence shows that blacks are disproportionatly more likely to die from a police encounter than whites. NIH study here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6080222/ PNAS study here: https://www.pnas.org/content/116/34/16793

huh? Edit: Ok, I think I understand what you're asking now..... I pretty much just Googled "Police violence by race" and read the first 4 hits/studies that popped up. I guess I'd like to know why you think I was wrong in stating that if the previous poster was white he was not likely to be the victim of police violence? Admittedly it was a "pop off" remark on my part. I didn't mean for it to be inflammatory.

Probably as long as it's on emergency authorization status. My guess is that they'll have enough data on the vaccines by this summer or fall to get full authorization for use.

I'm not an expert in police de-escalation techniques because I don't work in the industry. What are your qualifications for discussing the topic?

Oh, I'm sorry....I was under the impression that this was the internet and not a masters class on race relations.

Assuming he's white, he likely won't. In every one of these cases de-escalation techniques might have prevented the need for force altogether, which I think we all agree is the desired goal.

How so? By handing down one of like 12 rated 365s?

Sometimes you don’t have the choice to fight a war. Thinking of WWII in particular. The country could not have fought that war without a draft and complete national buy-in. Now we have trillions of dollars of military resources and an all-volunteer military of about 2 million (including reserves). This means that the government can fiddle around with military engagements without moving the national needle when it comes to lives and treasure lost. This is a problem. Especially since the Executive can wage war without congressional consent. Also, the Congress has abdicated it constitutional authority to wage war. I wish there was a form of national service. I’d like it to be mandatory but that goes against the American ethos so I get it. The solution is to probably maintain a smaller all-volunteer active duty military and use a draft to fight existential threats. But then Russia and China would run the world.