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I think this meets the definition of WTF......Jesco White for President. Jesco on Marriage

Off the top rope...nice. Yeah, I don't see people feeling addicted to the "services" provided by the AF either. When southwest, fedex, AA, etc. start bringing in dudes for interviews, the ball will start rolling and people will leave by the masses (especially if they canx the old retirement system). I was not on active duty during the last flood of people leaving for airlines, but I can see the same sort of thing happening now...only this time, as "bitteeinbit" mentioned, we are putting up with even more BS than the previous group. As far as the non-flyers? I think they would punch as well....tons of firms are hiring people with experience and/or security clncs.

I agree with almost everything you said. I'm also on the fence, but the things that are driving me away are all AF culture related (as you basically mentioned). I can put up with deployments, remotes, etc, but it is the day to day grind under a relentless queep machine that is killing my will to serve. CBTs, Award packages, meaningless AF buzzwords, uniform changes, and a general lack of respect that an AF officer gets these days by the enlisted force is all adding up. If we could create some sort of real warrior spirit/git er dun mentality at all levels then my opinion might change. My squadron level leadership has also been mostly poor in my 11 years. I can only count about 2 squadron CCs that I would actually want to "be like" later on in life. The poor traits exhibited by these micromanagers, yes men, and queep generators really kills the will to want to serve. I can say, however, that the couple of CCs that were good were REALLY good leaders. If the retirement changed on us (without grandfathering) it would be a final straw.

Well said sir...well said

I'm out if they implement this. 3 years left on ADSC and I'll be a current flying viper pilot when I am eligible to get out. Why would I stick around and put my family through the asspain while the airlines are hiring, etc? My plan is to remain in for 20 but if they pull this act I'm gonna have to take a knee. Good luck AF.

Simply put. I couldn't have said it better. I'm out in 3 yrs if they pass this clown-act of a bill. ZERO incentive to put the family through this....especially if the airlines are hiring.

got to fly the AT-6 a few times during an eval at DM last year. nice plane and some good capability. not sure where everything stands now on acquisition, etc. Beechcraft was working pretty hard to get it sold.

A little help: I just looked at the .ppt web presentation on AFPCs website about the RIF. Somewhere it says that those with less than one year time in grade by 19 APR 11 are ineligible for the RIF. I was commissioned Dec 2000. I pinned on Maj 1 Oct 2010. Am I reading it right that I'm ineligible since I've got less than a year as an 0-4 by the 19 APR 11 date? I have little to no support at DLI here in Washington so I'm trying to get answers. Thanks