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I see that escalating into something like this:

All those bases have RPAs. There are also Guard and Reserve units in various places. I'm at Ellsworth, we work a 5-1-2. 5 days of flying, 1 day for admin and a 2 day weekend. Sometimes you end up flying on the admin day. If you have no admin stuff to accomplish, effectively you get a three day weekend. We have three shifts of 9 hours apiece. I frequently work 10-12 hours a day. At least in my corner of the world, you can expect 1 120-ish day deployment during your asssignment here.

I understand this, but the Officer administering the oath should have exercised sound tactical judgement and heard "So help me God", whether the reenlistees said it or not. If he didn't immediately see the blatant unconstitutionality at play here and recognize the enormous black eye this is going to inflict on the Air Force then he isn't fit to wear his rank on his shoulders. We were taught at OTS that officer's may use their moral authority to deviate from the rules when it makes sense, this is one of those times.

Bro, My wife failed the medical clearance on our way out to Japan. I did everything in my power to get us both out there and eventually did. Her situation deteriorated and Medical drug it's feet fixing it making a bad problem horrifically worse. It destroyed my marriage (finishing up the divorce now). If one of your family members fails the medical screening for an assignment .... DON'T GO.

Invalid at release. The plural of dependopotamus is "Officer Spouse's Club".

Almost but not quite:

Maybe she sings really shitty music?

I think the sleep thing is a much bigger part of it than people realize. When you're deployed at least you get to sleep in your crew rest. I've seen dudes showing up like zombies because they had family stuff to do when they also needed to be sleeping. I don't know what the fix is. Alot of our guys thought the answer was the VSP and I don't blame them.

Rant - On We RPA instructors work hard to instill a spirit of camaraderie and aggressiveness in order to prevent this PTSD stuff. It doesn't always work, some people are soft and just aren't cut out to hunt and kill other people. Watching other people die is upsetting to some people, especially if they had a hand in it. I've found sitting on a 9-line and not shooting to be far more stressful than shooting. I go home pissed off after that shit. Not everyone is like that. If you felt guilty over it, it probably doesn't help to sit in a mass debrief watching someone die 5 or 6 times while everyone else is drinking beer and erupting in cheers and laughter every time they watch the missile hit. Which is unfortunate, because the rest of the squadron needs to get a little rowdy for mass debrief sometimes. There is no solution that works for everyone. We've found the solution that works for most, so we'll stick with that. For the rest we'll use every resource we have to get them where they need to be. Still some folks won't be able to hack it. They may get PTSD, Q3'd, or we may just stick them on a line that tends not to shoot very much and hope for the best because we're flat out of dudes to put on the schedule. It fucking sucks, but it's the cost of doing business.

He was probably stuck in a nonflying job somewhere, so there was no reason to recat yet.

Found it: Leadership, I normally don't share these with you but find myself needing to send the message that we are being watched. While not uncommon this particular individual has been keep a log of our flying events for some time. I expect you all to be professional and to expect scrutiny. Our industry demands it. Carl's note to me while lengthy is not uncommon. My staff and I see many of these each week as you and your warriors exercise your right to hone your skills on low level training routes and in controlled airspace in preparation to defend this great nation when called. My response and reply are at the end of his complaint. VR Mutha CAPT Mark A. Hubbard USN Commander Strike Fighter Wing Pacific ----->> To: Hubbard, Mark A CAPT CSFWP Commodore Cc: White, Michael S RDML(S) NPC, Pers-4 Subject: Noise Complaint Captain Hubbard, I am having an issue with noise that is generated by aircraft based at NAS Lemoore (and elsewhere), specifically, with their use of a low level military training route that your command is the controlling authority for. Rather than deal with mere underlings, I thought it best to go directly to the source of "where the buck stops". That would be you. My home is located in a rural area of California's Sacramento Valley. I was unaware that when I purchased this home 21 years ago, it was located directly under the centerline of VR-201 (or VR-202, I can't remember which one it is), at GPS coordinates N39.38.610 W121.48.710, 210' MSL (according to the GPS in my car). Over the last 21 years, I have been subjected to the repeated injustices, insults to my eardrums, and affronts to my sensibilities as an American Taxpayer, that your jets have been responsible for. In the early 90's the use of this low level training route was frequent, but I tolerated it nonetheless. From about 1995 until early this year, use of this route was only occasional and sporadic, so I could generally overlook the issue. However, in the last three weeks, there has been a noticeable increase it its use. Specifically, I have observed the following, 1. August 30th, 1135 AM PDT - A single F-18 2. September 18th, 1430 PM PDT - A single EA-6B 3. September 19th, 1120 AM PDT - A single F-18 4. September 19th, 1145 AM PDT - A single F-18 Here is my specific complaint..... 1. None of these overflights were low enough... 2. None of these overflights were loud enough...... 3. And, none of these overflights were fast enough!!! As an American Taxpayer, I pay good, hard earned money, to provide your young Naval Aviators the best training possible. For that money, I EXPECT to get something for it. If my house is not shaken to its foundation, if the windows do not rattle in their frames, I judge this display of airmanship as incredibly weak. All of these jets listed above, were so high, that I could not tell if the Hornets were Super Hornets or Legacy Hornets (the Electic-6 was unmistakable). These jets were so high, that after one of them flew by, my wife looked at me and said, "That fly-by is so wimpy, you should call it a "Whisperjet". The ultimate goal is to earn a five-star rating, as viewed by me. To earn a five-star rating, your jets should create enough noise to break at least one window in the house. Not since '92-'93 has that happened. At the time, a flight of eight jets in a combat spread formation passed over my house at about 200' AGL, approximately 500+ knots. This flight consisted of four Hornets, two Intruders and two Turkeys. The thundering noise was awesome! Not only did I have to replace a few windows, but several of my neighbors did as well!! That was a fly-by truly worthy of Naval Aviators. As a former naval Aviator (back in the day, we flew Lot V Hornets with planning link failures and collapsed landing gear), I am hugely embarrassed for my younger brethren. You and your young naval Aviators should be ashamed, for you have subjected me and my family to the indignity of these transgressions. My son, who is a KC-135 pilot in the Air Force has observed some these so-called "fly-bys", and has said that even his jet makes more noise when it is at 5,000' at cruise power settings. As you know, to fly the American flag upside down is a sign of distress. Perhaps you should bring in the young Naval Aviators responsible for these affronts to our dignity, and instruct them to wear their Wings of Gold upside down on their flight suits the next time they visit the O'Club, as a sign of their humility and penance for committing these transgressions. Very respectfully, Carl A. Raabe VFA-113 (circa '87-'90) -----Original Message----- From: Hubbard, Mark A CAPT CSFWP Commodore Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 5:15 PM To: Carl Raabe Cc: White, Michael S RDML(S) NPC, Pers-4; Black, Mark E CAPT CSFWP Deputy Commodore; Nelson, Todd M. CDR CSFWP OPS; Subject: RE: Noise Complaint Carl, I assure you that this has my fullest attention. I have directed my Operation team to investigate these repeated injustices and to bring me the names of all the guilty parties. I am expecting to receive a briefing from my Operation Officer early next week. In the mean time I have asked my staff to review our SOP, route descriptions, and tactical training procedures to ensure we have the guidance in place to achieve the "The five-star rating". In fact, once we are complete with our investigation I personally plan to survey the route myself to ensure we have not overlooked any training opportunities and will encourage others to do so as well. I firmly believe that if we do not use these training routes to their fullest we may in fact loose them all together. Thankfully, we have great Americans like you who remind us that there are still some that appreciate the "Sound of Freedom". For that reminder I applaud your letter and tenacity to go directly to the top! I would like to offer by way of apology an opportunity to re-blue the resonance of jet noise that will in fact shake you to the bone. If you and your wife would be my guest at our air show I would be honored. I have a limited number of VIP seats but would like to send you an invite to attend either Saturday the 15th or Sunday the 16th of October. If you would be so kind to send me your address I will have an invitation in the mail in short order. Sir, it would be an honor to make your acquaintance. Proud to Serve, Mutha CAPT Mark A. Hubbard USN Commander Strike Fighter Wing Pacific -----Original Message----- From: Carl Raabe Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 17:28 To: Hubbard, Mark A CAPT CSFWP Commodore Cc: White, Michael S RDML(S) NPC, Pers-4; Black, Mark E CAPT CSFWP Deputy Commodore; Nelson, Todd M. CDR CSFWP OPS; Subject: RE: Noise Complaint Captain Hubbard, Thank you for your prompt and complete attention to this matter. I am indeed encouraged and heartened by your rapid response to these past travesties. I am confident that your forcefulness in placing your hands firmly on the helm of this issue will pay dividends for all us... Your young aviators will get the training they truly deserve, the country will be better served by having the most competent aviators in the world, and I will get my "5 star rated" fly-bys. What more can we ask for? Your leadership on this issue is exemplary, and is a credit to you and the Naval Service. I would be most pleased to favorably endorse your next FitRep accordingly, to ensure that the next promotion board is fully aware of your outstanding contribution to our country and the Naval Service. If I may be of additional service, I will gladly assist your staff in any capacity as they pursue the work you have assigned them in reviewing this military training route. Even if the contribution is as small as providing occasional critiques of the aviator's route performance (from the comfort of my lounge chair by the pool), I will answer the call. Your offer to accommodate both my wife and I as your guests at the Lemoore air show is both gracious and generous, and is a sign of your stellar leadership. Accordingly, we humbly accept your offer with great gratitude. We would be honored to attend the air show on Saturday, 15 October. We look forward to meeting you, and being a part of this great event. Best regards, Carl & Gale Raabe P.S. There is an answer to the above question, "What more can we ask for?"..... My wife says that attending this air show, with its "bone-shaking" jet noise, will hopefully, finally shut me up. She has had to tolerate the last 21 years in this house of my complaints about not enough jet noise and afterburners (on active duty, that need was satisfied by endless hours on the LSO platform on the Connie and Indy, and countless hours at the LSO shack out at NASL 32L). She has repeatedly stated that my complaints are louder than the jet noise, and she wants that changed.

I remember that one; it is the definition of epic. I'm googling now.

That's how I read that as well. Much of this forum's value is that it provides a reasonable degree of anonymity. Calling someone out by name is a foul.

5 months is a ridiculously light sentence for rape.

I don't even have kids and I couldn't finish that.

The saddest thing is that this is the biggest improvement any of the last 3 CSAFs could manage.

Next time TIB is about to go drinking, someone let me know so I can buy stock in Zima first.

I'll second the recommendation of the Davenport. Don't miss Sunday Brunch. Best to have a good meal prior to eating bugs and Rabbit with Ramen in the woods.

It took me 22 months to get reimbursed for a rental car once.

Been there, done that.

I've never understood the above line of argument. We had a draft and it neither prevented the Vietnam War nor kept it short. Children of the connected managed to avoid it. By the way, what the fuck are we going to do with someone on a 2 year enlistment? As soon as they're any good at whatever job they're trained in, they'll be out the door. My guess is they'd end up sweeping parking lots while the volunteers did the real work with the additional burden of writing EPRs for a bunch of disgruntled borderline-useless guys. No thanks.

Did somebody say Rob Ford?

Touche, but I'm disappointed our civilian officials don't know they shouldn't follow orders from a random "Green Beret".

After further googling, here's the relevant law: 18 USC 912: Whoever falsely assumes or pretends to be an officer or employee acting under the authority of the United States or any department, agency or officer thereof, and acts as such, or in such pretended character demands or obtains any money, paper, document, or thing of value, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both. There is also the Stolen Valor Act. So you can dress up as a Colonel with 5 Silver Stars as long as you don't try to give orders to people or get them to give you stuff. I'd still argue that impersonating a policeman is worse, because someone impersonating a policeman could do more damage.