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Hey, sorry to hear about facing an FEB. It truly is a sucky experience. I went through one in 2017 and it was a similar situation to you, I washed from a FTU. Here are a couple pieces of advice I would give you: 1) Work your network to get people to vouch for you. See what your current leadership and instructors are likely to recommend. Reach out to UPT IP's and see if any will write you letters of support or testify for you. I ended up having two of my UPT IPs come voluntarily TDY and testify in front of the board and vouch for the fact that I was a competent and capable pilot. 2) Be wary of the legal advice your ADC gives you. Ultimately this is your aviation career at stake. In my case the ADC recommended I NOT fight to get reinstated into my FTU course, as he thought it may burn bridges and piss people off in the training squadron (the FTU planned to recommend my removal from the course but reassignment to a new airframe). I went with his recommendation, but ultimately in the end I think that was a mistake (see conclusion below). 3) Keep a record of everything that occurred leading up to and during your FEB. You never know what things you might catch or discover that could help your case now or in the future. 4) Keep your head up! Show up every day with a smile on your face and do whatever job they stash you in with the best attitude you can. Be a bro. Even if this ultimately doesn't help your case in the end, it will help your personal sanity. Also own the fact that you are facing an FEB. Don't be the guy that makes excuses about why you're in this position. Own the mistake and show everyone that you know you can be better. Conclusion: Now here is the part you probably won't want to hear. You can do everything right in the process and still end up with a bad result. The FEB is set up so that no matter what is recommended by the FEB or Convening Authority, the MAJCOM Commander has the final say. In my case I had the FTU leadership and instructors, my UPT instructors, and the Convening Authority all recommend my reassignment to another airframe/mission. And while I did struggle in my FTU, I had no history of failures in UPT. However the MAJCOM commander still reversed their recommendation and removed me from flying status. As mentioned above, if there is one thing I would have done different (other than change my study habits sooner and not even face an FEB), it would have been fight to get put back into my FTU. And as I mentioned above, I think saying that you just want to go to another airframe has to the potential to cause a bad perception. From the Convening Authority on to MAJCOM, your case will only be seen on paper, and whether right or wrong, it could be perceived that just wanting to move on somewhere else demonstrates a lack of commitment or seeking an easier path. Who knows if that really would have changed the result, but it could have helped for sure. Sorry for the long post, but I know I would have liked to have read something like this back when I was in your shoes. If you have any other questions feel free to PM me. I have basically memorized the 11-402. Oh one more thing. If you are truly passionate about aviation and can afford it, keep flying on your own. It could help your case. I've since been reassigned to a new career field, but I'm working on my CFI on my own, hoping at least I can get into civilian aviation, or maybe someday find myself back in an Air Force cockpit. Good luck!

https://time.com/money/5178963/dicks-semi-automatic-rifles-cabelas-bass-pro-shops/ Cabellas/Bass Pro are a separate company from Dicks, and are still stocking and selling ARs. EditL Now that I re-read it, I think you meant that Field and Stream is Dick's version of a Cabellas/Bass Pro store. My bad, if that is what you meant.

Bump for any current E-3 updates?

Thanks for the response. Genuinely appreciate the bluntness. I've got a million things running through my nugget, so apologies for some unfiltered thoughts getting blurted out onto the screen. I do fully accept the responsibility and results of the situation. Thanks for the other responses as well. Probably should have read the whole thread in a little more detail.

Bringing this topic back up looking for answers in regard to FEB Waivers. I'm going to leave specifics of airframe, etc... out, however if knowing those specifics will help you answer my questions feel free to shoot me a PM. The short story however is, I am facing an FEB from a B Course for failing to meet training standards. But it looks like I am going to be offered the option to take an FEB Waiver. I saw that FEB Waivers were mentioned earlier in the thread, but what I specifically want to know is, do you have any sort of control over what air frame you may follow on to if you take the FEB Waiver? The reason I ask is apparently the last dude who went through an FEB where I am ended up going to RPAs. Now apparently he did not get offered a waiver and actually went to the board, and I also don't know what the official recommendation from the board was, but it's still a bit of a worrying result. I saw an earlier post in here mentioned "the terms of the waiver are generally acceptance of an ACC heavy." But I was curious if this was something written into the wavier, or something discussed afterwards and preferences are then given to AFPC? Or is it possible that you are purely up to the whims of AFPC? Edit: I guess I should also mention I am a UPT to B Course guy, so the waiver would result in a reassignment, and not a return to a previous air frame or AFSC. Thanks in advance for any help!!

Hearing some rumors Columbus dropped an F-35 tonight? If so, very cool.

ENJJPT 16-02 B-52 F-15C x 2 (Both Guard) A-10 x 2 (1 Guard) F-16 x 5 (2 Guard) F-22 F-15E x 2 T-38C T-6 KC-10 RC-135 C-130 F-18 x 2 Canada Eurofighter - Italy

Did Laughlin, Columbus, or Vance drop last night?

UPT Students sitting casual waiting for class start are being briefed that RPAs are going to be dropping from UPT again. Not sure what classes might be the first but it seems they will be spread out amongst all four bases.

I grew up in 757 area. There are some nice housing developments that have sprung up right across the Monitor Merrimack bridge in Suffolk. Riverfront, Harbor View, and a few others are the names I think. It's about a 25 min drive to Langley from there, and traffic at the MM bridge is usually less terrible. Not sure which school system you end up in out there though, but there are lots of private schools in the area that plenty military families end up putting their kids in.

Which track these days drops more AC-130s? Or is it about equal?

Lots of rumors flying around that OTS will be switching in FY15 to a similar model to what AMS has been. That would mean no upper and lower class. Could be an interesting development because it allows them to turn OTS off and on a lot easier. Especially right now since future selection boards have been indefinitely suspended, but there are probably about 200 selects from previous boards still sitting around waiting to go.

Is the 192nd Fighter Wing actually hiring for a UPT slot? Edit: Saw that someone had posted something about it a few pages ago, but then it seemed to have gotten lost in the shuffle. Just trying to confirm or deny if they are having a board.

Thanks for the replies. I found the information I was looking for, but did develop a couple of more questions, specifically regarding the following statement in paragraph 3.1.3.4. that reads, "Note: While attending UPT/UNT training FCI/IA standards (as appropriate) apply. Upon UPT graduation FCII standards apply." I'm assuming this means that at MFS I must still test out within the FC1 standards, correct? In that case what happens if I happen to have a change in my vision that puts me outside the waiverable standard for my refractive error? Would I be S.O.L.? FWIW I don't believe this will happen as I had a bit of wiggle room in my vision (-2.75 in left eye and -2.25 in right) but the added wait with my OTS delay and the fact that it could be well over a year from the day I tested for my physical till when I might get to MFS has me a bit paranoid. In addition is there any way for a civilian OTS select to get to MFS before OTS, or is that reserved for the active duty selects?

Well kind of depressing that I am again posting in this topic, but due to Sequestration myself and 37 other OTS selects have found out that we have been indefinitely pushed back from our 14-04 OTS class. As of right now we do not have new class dates, but are hearing that we might not go until August 2014 at the earliest. My question is, what happens with my flight physical and waiver, esp if I don't get a class till August or later? I know the physical is only good for one year, and I had mine stamped as approved on July 18th, 2013. Will I have to re-do my physical and waiver?

Ah ok, thanks for the info. That is too bad as I know those flight frames will look goofy on my narrow face. Oh well, thanks again for the info.

Thanks for the post, that picture was exactly what I was looking for. I think the smaller AO frames would work better for me as well. Does the AO frame come with the option of clear lenses and either a gold or black frame too?

Thread revival here. So I'll be wearing the flight frames at UPT due to the fact that contacts have always bothered my eyes. I've been a glasses only person for the last 5 or 6 years and have been much happier not having to deal with dry eyes and all that. But anyway, is this what the flight frames/sunglasses look like? While not the coolest things in the world those are significantly less nerdy than what I had been imagining. Just curious what kind of sexiness I am in for.

Just got the official word, waiver approved! Thanks to everyone for the help over the past few months. Next step, class date.

It was for refractive error. As far as I know I was within the waiver criteria based on the numbers I heard while taking my physical and the numbers I got from my own eye doctor shortly before the physical. I did get in touch with someone today in Flight Medicine where I took the physical, and they notified me that my paperwork was sent to AETC yesterday for approval, so that is good news. Any idea how long it takes to hear back once the paperwork is in their hands?

Coming up on the 3 month point since my physical and still no word on the waiver for refractive error. Anyone with any insight into the process know why it might be taking so long? A few of my fellow OTS selects had the exact same waiver approved in one to two weeks. I've tried getting updates from my recruiter but he always says he has no new info.

Any reason to worry after not hearing anything about my vision waiver after over 5 weeks? Contacted my recruiter today and he had not heard anything either. I'm assuming its just riding the paper work train around, but thought I would check.

Thank you. I was just as surprised with the 20/80 number. A few months ago at my own eye doctor I tested at 20/100. I think I just had a good day with my eyes and also maybe guessed right on the O's vs D's etc... Fingers crossed.

Just had my IFC1. Came out to 20/80 in both eyes, and my refractive error was outside the normal standard but was within the waiverable standard (-2.25 and -2.50 I think). My near vision also tested out to 20/30. All other parts of my physical were within standard and passed. What are my chances of getting my waiver approved? I'm feeling pretty good because I tested so close to the 20/70 limit.

Does anyone know if the 118th AS of the CT ANG Guard is still slated to change to MC-12s? The recent Guard Structure Changes stated that the C-27 squadron would not open, however a recent UPT Board posting by that unit in the Aviation Jobs section claims the opening is for a C-27. I'm thinking of applying to this unit, and just trying to figure out exactly what the future is looking like in terms of the aircraft they will be operating.